Metal Spinning

[IOWOLF]

Not quite so Norm.

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The tame Wolf !

[Norman Atkinson]

Enough from you, the Meat Wolf!

You were kidding us- well, them!

N

[Too_Many_Tools]

I am thinking about acquiring a lathe for spinning metal.

I would recommend any advice you might have in what is available.

Thanks

TMT

[Alistair Hosie]

From what I can gather most woodworking lathes with a little modification to the tool resst with pins built in should be fine enough perhaps get a book on it.Any metal spinning I have seen is done this way Alistair p.s have much fun http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

[thistle]

There was an article or series of articles in either HSM or MW a good while ago about metal spining,one article involved taking apart a 3 in1 lathe and making it into a metal spinning lathe.
I know the magfazines are around here some where , but probably cant find them with out a seriuos search.

[thistle]

also an article in MEW from a while back,

[Your Old Dog]

I read somewhere it was hard on a lathes bearings as was knurling with the older style tooling. If that's so, you might want to buy a bigger lathe than planned?

[Alistair Hosie]

Y O Dog I don't see how it could be any harder than bowl turning on the bearings but perhaps I am wrong regards Alistair

[aostling]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Too_Many_Tools:
I am thinking about acquiring a lathe for spinning metal.

I would APPRECIATE any advice you might have.

TMT</font>

James P. Riser of Tucson http://www.jamesriser.com/CD_Preview/Intro.html has this web page devoted to his experience in spinning. I recently bought his CD-ROM, but I have not yet had time top view it in depth.

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Allan

[JRouche]

Nice metal spinning read..JRouche

http://prl.stanford.edu/documents/pdf/spinning.pdf

[IOWOLF]

Geez , just last night on "how its made" they had a spinning show.

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The tame Wolf !

[Orrin]

There are two metal spinning forums (fora) on Yahoo.

Metal spinning:
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/metalspinning/?yguid=5735230

The Art of Metal Spinning:
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheArtofMetalSpinning/?yguid=5735230

Paul Wiley is the man behind "The Art..." forum. He is a professional spinner who has written a book on the topic.

The other forum has gone somewhat inactive because the leader currently doesn't have the time to participate. Still, the back messages are available and informative; and, the leader of the forum has produced a CD showing spinning techniques.

Regards,

Orrin

[GM54210]

The "Art of Metal Spinning" and this board:
http://metalspinningworkshop.com/ (discussion board is on lower left) are the two main boards I know about. The Workshop board replaced the Yahoo board moderated by Tynan. Both Paul Wiley and Terry Tynan are professional metal spinners and know their stuff.
I also bought the Riser CD, and found later that many of his methods are not considered proper or, more importantly, safe in many cases. I have Wiley's book and Tynan's DVD and from studies of all three, I would conclude the opinions expressed online concerning the Riser CD are with-in reason, especially when techniques are compared one to one.
If you read through the forums, there is a good amount of discussion on converting wood lathes (cheaper) and metal lathes (more durable) to spinning. Also, there is guidance on how to make the spinning tools.
I picked up a little 12" spinning lathe locally, though I haven't had time to really try it out.

Hope this helps, Wes

[Millman]

"Spinning" is not that hard, but it is an operation and a technique that no one can put in writing. Start out with a small piece of aluminum and try it.Try to find an Artisan of Spinning in your area.

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BFH

[Millman]

I can't believe you have been a member for 3 yrs. and still asking about metal spinning. Can you no longer read or search for a written answer? Sometimes you have to put forth a reasonable effort to research something; or are you asking questions just to keep a thread going???????????????

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BFH

[Norman Atkinson]

Don't mind old Rip Van Winkle here but!!!

Open the cupboard door. Look at the tins or cans. Look at the metal caps or closures.
Unscrew one, get your watchmaker's loup and have a look. Not a mark on each one and there is any number of lacquers. Look at the screw threads. Sit back and realise that each bit was prepared in flat sheets before being cut, punched and then spun.
Moreover, they are done in hundreds of thousands.

What, I repeat, is the problem?
Or more importantly, where is the problem?

Norman


[This message has been edited by NORMAN ATKINSON (edited 03-03-2006).]

[Millman]

I think we ALL know where the problem is. Don't you??

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BFH

[Millman]

Watched it on the Science Channel last night; Spin 8 gallon aluminum pots in 4 minutes.

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BFH

[Norman Atkinson]

Ain't got a Science Channel.

We have something called
" Back Lane Industries"

No money in it but fun!

Norm

[Millman]

Good thing you have Monty Python, Faulty Towers, Are you being Served! Must be nice; He,s a Lumberjack and he's OK...... Sleeps all night and he works all day! By the way Faulty.... How is John Cleese doing in his endeavor organizing the Academy of Silly Walks ?????Just curious, old Chap.

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BFH

[Your Old Dog]

I don't have any snide remarks to make or any muscle to flex but you might try this......

http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pjet/spinning1.shtml

Hope this is of some help. Thanks for the topic, nice to see some conversation up on the board. It's been kind of quiet around here lately. Becasue of this topic I found the site above and I think it's prett neat.

Alistair, I'm not sure where I heard it about spinning being hard on a lathe but I know it had to do with stressing the bearings in away they weren't meant to be stressed. Maybe my source was all wet as know one else can confirm that.

[This message has been edited by Your Old Dog (edited 03-03-2006).]

[Millman]

YOD, the thin blanks don't really put that much stress on a sturdy machine's bearings.... but to get GOOD at spinning you must actually hold the tooling in your hands. It's another application to utilise the Machinist's Feel. Once you do it a couple times you get the Feel.

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BFH

[Norman Atkinson]

Millman,
At the last count, John Cleese was into politics! Having said that, he seemed almost invisible amongst a big crowd of genuine idiots. Have you followed British Politics lately? They even asked cousin Rowan.Oh, and me.

I think that it all to do with a Tin Pot administration. Tin pot, metal spinning, making a lot of noise, getting nowhere- get it.

Really, Millman, I send my 2 cents worth here. Compared to my lot, you lot are almost normal.

Keep it up, dear chap, as the art mistress said to the gardener.

Coming, matron! Pottie calls.

Norm from Tin Pot Alley.

[Millman]

You're a little crazy Norm,,, But I respect that. You and Cleese running for office? If I were a rich bloke; I would fly in for the election. I can see it now......Rowan, Cleese, Atkinson ...All vying to take over Blair's shoes...silk stockings, naturally! I am 1/2 English, 1/2 German so I miss my roots. I still say the Germans were better machinists than the English. I'm torn between 2 countries and cultures. Dave

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BFH

[Norman Atkinson]

Nay, Nay! Nein, Nein, mein freude!

Cleeve and I will not run for office.
He is keeping his funny walk whilst I have a Zimmer frame to make room for! Room for- Gott it?

Better than Basil Faulty's German- Eine Kleine?

Norm Achtun-son

[Too_Many_Tools]

"I can't believe you have been a member for 3 yrs. and still asking about metal spinning. Can you no longer read or search for a written answer? Sometimes you have to put forth a reasonable effort to research something; or are you asking questions just to keep a thread going???????????????"

I assume that you are directing this comment towards my question.

I assure you that I ALWAYS have done my research BEFORE asking any question.

Considering the saying "If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem", do you have useful information to contribute? If so, I look forward to reading it.

TMT

[TECHSHOP]

There was an "retired old man" that I bought some spun items from. I be damned to a deeper hell if our conversation didn't sound like this thread.

TECHSHOP, "That's some nice spun candle holders"

ROM, "Thank you. I wanted something to sell when my wife entered these craft show after I retired as an engineer."

TECHSHOP, "What kind of train did you drive?"

ROM, "Mechanical. Sprechen Sie(?)Deutsch?"

TECHSHOP, "Nein"

His wife and my wife thought we were both "too much alike" as we talked back-n-forth for over an hour.

Every time I look at the items my wife and bought I wonder what happen to that man. I don't know his name, but I will be struk down as I type if I find it was "Norm."

Sorry if my German is FUBAR, I often listen, sometimes read, rearly speak, and never write.

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Today I will gladly share my experience and advice, for there no sweeter words than "I told you so."

[Norman Atkinson]

Some damned imposter- this Norm fellow.

Aren't most people nice- even some of the Norms?

Thank you for sharing your experience- even if you told me so!

Another Norm