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3 Phase Lightbulb
02-22-2005, 04:57 PM
If anyone is interested, I've setup a general purpose BBS system:

http://www.bbssystem.com

I plan to create many types of forums and let many people Moderate their own forum....

If you have wanted to run a Forum on a specific subject, let me know and I can create a Forum for you on my BBS system and you can be the moderator. You'll be in charge of advertising your forum, moderating it, and keeping it clean/legal.

I have unlimited storage so I can also offer files online, images, etc.

I expect this BBS system will contain many, many different subjects and boards/forums all in one place so ultimately people will be able to hop around from "world" to "world".

-3Ph

Sprague M
02-22-2005, 08:26 PM
Would this be the place to start a swap/trade for sale section I keep hearing about?

IOWOLF
02-22-2005, 08:30 PM
sure would

Sprague M
02-22-2005, 08:32 PM
Well then I nominate IOWolf to moderate. LOL

IOWOLF
02-22-2005, 08:41 PM
SORRY, I'M NOT 'puter literate.

precisionworks
02-22-2005, 08:48 PM
C'mon, IO, don't gotta be comepewter smasrt, jusss gotta b abull to twype!?<#**

CCWKen
02-22-2005, 09:55 PM
Hey that's great!

How long will this be available? What's the cost? What's "in charge of advertising your forum..."? Will there be banner ads? Pop ups? Tracking Cookies? Bots?

By "many types of forums", do you mean Forums or Topics within the forum?

Evan
02-22-2005, 09:56 PM
There's the caps lock key to think about too...

hoffman
02-22-2005, 10:06 PM
Will there be a dyslexic lesbian nude skydiving and welding forum? I'd be interested in that ...

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3 Phase Lightbulb
02-22-2005, 10:18 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sprague M:
Would this be the place to start a swap/trade for sale section I keep hearing about?</font>

Sure, I can setup a Machine shop swap/trade Forum for someone here to moderate.

-3Ph

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-22-2005, 10:34 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CCWKen:
Hey that's great!

How long will this be available? What's the cost? What's "in charge of advertising your forum..."? Will there be banner ads? Pop ups? Tracking Cookies? Bots?
</font>

I have about 15 domains that I'm starting up and plan to keep them up at least for the next 5 years since I already paid for them. There is no cost, or need for "paid advertising". When I said "in charge of advertising" -- I'm talking about the moderators going out and telling other people about the forum (spreading the word) so more people will join.. A forum only works when there are lots of people using it (like this forum) so that's what I ment by "do your own advertising". I don't have time to, but I'll run and provide all of the forum resources/hosting/etc.

No pop up ads, no ads period... There is no need for any funding, etc. I'm paying for it but it's just pocket change so it's not an issue.



<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CCWKen:

By "many types of forums", do you mean Forums or Topics within the forum?</font>

Both.. I have no problem setting up Forums and topics on anything that someone wants and is clean/legal.... If you want to start a "cooking" forum with many topics, or just a topic under an existing fourm, etc. If someone wants to have "Ball point pen collector" forum that's fine -- I'll set it up for them.

-3Ph

hoffman
02-22-2005, 10:55 PM
How 'bout a clean legal dyslexic lesbian nude skydiving and welding forum http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

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Hoffman in Warner Robins Ga

torker
02-22-2005, 11:07 PM
hoffman...you're on a roll! LOL!!! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-22-2005, 11:13 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by hoffman:
How 'bout a clean legal dyslexic lesbian nude skydiving and welding forum http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

</font>

I've created your forum under "Off Topic"... I'm trying to figure out how you assign you as the Moderator for "your" forum, but it's there.. You should be able to moderate it as soon as I figure out how to make you a moderator:

http://www.bbssystem.com/index.php?c=2


Did you think I was kidding? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

-3Ph

mattc
02-22-2005, 11:29 PM
3ph you are having way too much fun http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

lugnut
02-23-2005, 12:05 AM
hoffman, it's there,"clean legal dyslexic lesbian nude skydiving and welding forum" I looked and YOUR IT. Now get to work!

matador
02-23-2005, 01:31 AM
nude welding,hoffman?sounds painful http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

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Hans

Ryobiguy
02-23-2005, 01:44 AM
Wow, a proud new SysOp, to use a term outdated by "system administrator." Does it have lots of doors, has the software been modded, and does it run atleast on a 19.2k modem??
Whoa, sorry, flashbacks to way back when I had my WWIV BBS on my '286 with a screaming fast 2400bps modem.
Anyone remember the term "leech"?

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-23-2005, 01:59 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ryobiguy:
Wow, a proud new SysOp, to use a term outdated by "system administrator." Does it have lots of doors, has the software been modded, and does it run atleast on a 19.2k modem??
Whoa, sorry, flashbacks to way back when I had my WWIV BBS on my '286 with a screaming fast 2400bps modem.
Anyone remember the term "leech"?</font>

I ran my first BBS on my Apple ][ with a Hayes Micromodem 300 baud modem. I custom made the BBS system in Applesoft basic and a 6502 serial driver that I called from basic to Test for Carrier detect, Input Strings, and Output Strings. I had a message board and file downloads (X-modem CHECKSUM) and some online games like "Text" reversi.

I had an elite only system... No "rodents" aloud.. All new users needed to be voted in by at least 3 existing members before you got access... No leeches either because I had a 1:1 upload/download ratio.. When you uploaded 100K, you were granted 100K worth of downloading... If you uploaded a newly cracked game, then I would reward you with lots of extra downloading credits..

I'm not thrilled about running someone elses Message board software (phpBB).. I've always run my own BBS software in the past. I'm not thrilled about having someone else manage the server either, but it's OK because I'm too busy to write my own anyway..

-3Ph

Evan
02-23-2005, 02:34 AM
He he. I wrote my own BBS to run on a Commodore PET in about 1981. 1200 baud I think. I still have the PET and it still works last time I checked. Someday the eproms are going to lose their minds though. I customised the BASIC and KERNAL and burned them with a eprom programmer I designed. I even made a script character generator eprom. I also designed and built a high res display dual port bitmapped graphics board for it, monochrome of course.

Cool thing about the 6502 was the predictability of ram access. You could easily connect two 6502s to the same block of ram if you inverted the clock to one.

Evan
02-23-2005, 02:50 AM
BTW, 3PH, although I don't think it was ever ported to the Apple, do you ever recall the game Dambusters?

shaque
02-23-2005, 09:18 AM
Congrats 3ph, I think you got a winner!
Jim http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-23-2005, 12:31 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:
He he. I wrote my own BBS to run on a Commodore PET in about 1981. 1200 baud I think. I still have the PET and it still works last time I checked. Someday the eproms are going to lose their minds though. I customised the BASIC and KERNAL and burned them with a eprom programmer I designed. I even made a script character generator eprom. I also designed and built a high res display dual port bitmapped graphics board for it, monochrome of course.

Cool thing about the 6502 was the predictability of ram access. You could easily connect two 6502s to the same block of ram if you inverted the clock to one.</font>


I think I got my first 1200 baud modem around '85. I remember getting concerned because I would spend Hours and hours crafting very fancy login screens and "news" dumps when people first login. At 1200 baud, people were not foced to read them anymore.. I used to watch people login to my BBS all the time and I notced at 1200 baud, people would immediatly go right to the download section and start transfers.. They could not have read my "news" dump because it scrolled by too fast.. ASCII art suffered when 1200 baud came around.

The nice thing about the 6502 is the "Phase 2" clock output.. Makes it easy to interleave video access and CPU access at a fixed frequency perfect for RS-190 video applications.

Here I am at the Vintage Computer Festival showing off my Homebrew 6502 based computer. I built a 6502 computer from scratch that has a VGA compat video controller, IDE hard disk controller, Soundblaster compatible 8bit audo, PC104 Keyboard interface (I cloned the 8051 interface). It's a full blown custom computer including my own homegrown operating system with 6502 based VGA drivers, IDE drivers, Filesystem with directories, CLI, Soundbaster driver, Keyboard driver, etc...

http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?grouptag=VCFEAST20

I'm the first person at the top.. Check out some of the other vintage stuff there too. Great stuff.

Here is the complete 6502 based Operating system that I wrote for my 6502 Homebrew:

http://www.gnuxtools.com/lam

I Assembled the OS.ASM with my own 6502 Integrated Assembler/Editor/Emulator development environment that I also wrote from scratch:

http://www.gnuxtools.com/lam/dev-env

I built the development environment with Watcom C/C++ and I ran my development environment in DOS.

-3Ph

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-23-2005, 02:12 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:
BTW, 3PH, although I don't think it was ever ported to the Apple, do you ever recall the game Dambusters?</font>

Never heard of it. Was it something for the C64?

-3Ph

IOWOLF
02-23-2005, 03:05 PM
Evan I am doing better, we all can't be perfickt like you and Thrud,LOL

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-23-2005, 03:11 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
Evan I am doing better, we all can't be perfickt like you and Thrud,LOL</font>


Are you sure you're not computer literate?

With a username like "I/O WOLF", that's kind of hard to believe. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

-3Ph

Evan
02-23-2005, 03:17 PM
Dambusters was a simple video game I wrote for the PET and the 64. It ended up all over the place, even on a Commodore distribution disk of games. You can still actually find it in some online archives of old PET software.

CCWKen
02-23-2005, 07:27 PM
If you were running 1200 baud in '81, you riped it off from a lab somewhere or you were VERY rich! I remember "our" business computer having 2400 baud modems and they were about $2000 each. Crapy service from the phone company didn't help much. Too much noise on the lines from hard switching. The 12's were in the $600 range. When the the "96's" first came out, I seem to recall them being in the $1200 range. The faster they got, the cheaper they got.

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-23-2005, 09:34 PM
Yea, now that I think about it, when I modified my BBS to work with my new 1200 bps modem around '85, I was one of the first BBS systems in the area that offered 1200 baud. My 1200 baud modem wasn't even Bell 212 compatible, it was an "AppleCat ][" modem which could only talk at 1200 bps to other AppleCat ][ modems.

I could fully control my AppleCat ][ modem and could easly "war-dial" with it.. War dialing is writing software to that calls any sequence of local phone numbers in your area to see if you can detect a carrier at the phone numbers you dial.. If you detect a carrier, append that phone number to a text file and keep going. I used to run my war-dialer all night long somtimes looking for other computers.

One night at around 4am the police came to our house. My dad came down to my bedroom and woke me up with 2 police officers and asked me how come my phone line keeps dialing 911. I tried to look puzzled and walked over to my computer. Luckly my monitor was turned off but you could here the relay on my AppleCat ][ modem click inbetween calls every 15 seconds or so. I turned off the computer, turned On the monitor, then turned the computer back on and ctrl-c'd preventing my war-dialing software from loading back up on the floppy.. The clicking obviously stopped and I said something like, "that's weird, my computer was freaking out and dialing the modem. I just reset it and it's fine now."

It turns out that when I wrote my war-dialing software, I forgot to exclude 911-xxxx from my sequence. At around 3:40am, my software started dialing the 911 prefix (911-0001, 911-0002, 911-0003) looking for a carrier... The 911 dispatcher thought our house had some sort of alarm system so they sent the police over..

-3Ph

Evan
02-23-2005, 11:02 PM
Ken, I spent $500 just for a floppy drive. It may have been 82 but I still have the modem. I could dig it out and look up the date codes on the chips but that would just make a bigger mess.

Thrud
02-23-2005, 11:12 PM
I never got to do stuff like that - I had to play with explosives....(sniff, sniff) http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

First computer I built was from telephone relays - did 4 bit math - it was a power pig! Sounded cool though...

I remember the Altair 8008 and all those damn panel switches though - Awesome!

I still have an original Compac portable "suitcase" computer...

Evan
02-24-2005, 02:34 AM
He he. Dave, Me and a friend did throw the odd black powder bomb off the High Level Bridge.

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-24-2005, 11:30 AM
We used to build pipe bombs all the time.. In fact, I had a file-section on my BBS dedicated to Anarchy/bomb building/explosives/etc. People uploaded text files on how to make Gun Powder, how to make TNT, how to make C4, and even how to make nitroglycerine, etc.. Actually, most BBS systems had an Anarchy/explosives section in my area too so don't single me out here folks http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

I tried to make it all but I never had the right ingredients. I had everything to make Gun Powder, but it didn't do much more than smoke.

I did have access to my fathers black powder because he had lots of black powder guns and kits that he made.

We had lots of fun building pipe bombs.. Everything changed when I read a text file about making high explosives.. Instead of letting the fuse ignite the powder in a pipe bomb, this text file explained why a compound detonator (A smaller explosion) was better just using a burning fuse to ignite the powder.

I had to make the pipe bomb much larger than usual to fit a compound detonator inside the pipe. I think the pipe itself was a 2" dia pipe (about 8" long). I drilled the hole in the middle of the pipe like I normally would do, but this time I placed an M-80 inside the pipe with the M-80's fuse pushed through the fuse hole in the pipe.. I glued the M-80 inside of the pipe with my favorite tool of that time: my dad's Hot-Glue gun. So now I had a pipe, with an M-80 inside and the M-80's little 1.5" fuse outside... I finished it like I normally did: I put one end cap on tightly, filled it with power, brushed off the threads on the other end with a fine brush, carefully screwed on the other end cap tightly, and my friends and I headed off to go explode it..

Anyway, to make a longer story shorter, we were under the Mercer Island floating bridge in WA trying out the new pipe bomb. There are lots of Big boulders under the bridge up on the shoreline... Normally we toss the pipe bomb in between the boulders to help contain the shrapnel and allow us to still be "close" -- around 20 or so feet when it went off. We did the same thing this time except we had no idea that this pipe bomb would send huge chunks of rock off the shore and into lake washington. The echo bounced back and forth across the bridge and we were scared out of our minds.. We couldn't even see across the lake because there was so much dust. We looked up and could see rising rolling clouds of dust billowing on each side of the bridge. We ran like hell and never went back to that spot again..

-3Ph

Dave Opincarne
02-24-2005, 12:32 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:
He he. I wrote my own BBS to run on a Commodore PET in about 1981. 1200 baud I think. I still have the PET and it still works last time I checked. {snip}</font>

I used to pass notes in class http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//tongue.gif

BillH
02-24-2005, 12:35 PM
You and Hoffman, I predict both of you will get so sick and board of your boards, that after 4 weeks, you'll get rid of them.

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-24-2005, 12:52 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BillH:
You and Hoffman, I predict both of you will get so sick and board of your boards, that after 4 weeks, you'll get rid of them.</font>

It's a done deal... It's up for good unless Law officials tear it down... I might abandon it, but it will stay up as long as people use it.

Did you want to run a Forum?

-3Ph

Evan
02-24-2005, 12:59 PM
3ph,

What are you doing about legal liability?


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The CDA grants immunity to such providers for civil liability that was previously associated with monitoring of the forum and the removal of objectionable content. The Act does not apply, however, to allegations involving the violation of a criminal statute or the infringement of intellectual property. In instances where the host of a listserv or bulletin board is aware of allegations involving criminal activity or intellectual property infringement taking place within the forum, prompt action should be taken since a failure to take action to remove the objectionable material from the forum may result in contributory liability for these acts.</font>


http://www.corbinball.com/articles_legal/index.cfm?fuseaction=cor_av&artID=947



[This message has been edited by Evan (edited 02-24-2005).]

3 Phase Lightbulb
02-24-2005, 01:07 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:
3ph,

What are you doing about legal liability?


http://www.corbinball.com/articles_legal/index.cfm?fuseaction=cor_av&artID=947

[This message has been edited by Evan (edited 02-24-2005).]</font>


I'm not going to do anything... Does that answer your question? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

-3Ph

hoffman
02-24-2005, 07:06 PM
I'm hoping it'll take off. I check this board, the practical machinist, The chaski steam board and several yahoo groups. The Gorton group on yahoo and this group are my favs. It would be cool if vince moved the Gorton group to the new board. There are several Gorton manuals in the files section and a few Gorton wackos who post there http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

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Hoffman in Warner Robins Ga