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chkz
03-11-2005, 12:36 PM
Hi guys & gals, just got myself a 7" SB shaper...really pleased with it, great condition, great deal...been looking for ages! Anyhow, my question (and I had a quick scan thru the archives already)...what recommendations does anyone have for an indexing fixture (spin index, dividing head, etc) that i could use with this size of machine? Thanks & take care,
Chris

J Tiers
03-11-2005, 12:44 PM
Atlas made one, IIRC it was essentially a frame with a fixed tailstock and movable headstock. You put the frame on the table with the headstock end out, and adjusted the position of the H/S to hold the work.

It was direct indexing, with three plates for a selection of index ranges.

You would almost have to do something like that, because the table is so small as not to allow a typical setup that you would use on a mill.

pgp001
03-11-2005, 02:40 PM
The indexer you are talking about is featured on the Yahoo "shapers_Pix" site

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/metal_shapers_pix/vwp?.dir=/Atlas+S7+Indexer+Project&.dnm=FINISHED+INDEXER.jpg&.src=gr&.view=l&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/met al_shapers_pix/lst%3f%26.dir=/Atlas%2bS7%2bIndexer%2bProject%26.src=gr%26.view=l

Phil

Tinker2
03-12-2005, 07:45 PM
This is one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3879875126&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
Have Fun
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J Tiers
03-12-2005, 08:06 PM
I don't know what that is, but it is NOT the Atlas shaper dividing center setup I referred to.

The gear setup for dividing isn't normal, the base isn't Atlas, and the T/S isn't either.

Here is a (poor) pic of one, that was sent to me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/jstanley/shapercenterdsc_095.jpg

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Tinker2
03-12-2005, 08:26 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by J Tiers:
[B]I don't know what that is, but it is NOT the Atlas shaper dividing center setup I referred to.

The gear setup for dividing isn't normal, the base isn't Atlas, and the T/S isn't either.

Here is a (poor) pic of one, that was sent to me.

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Your right, for the Atlas mill? With a adapter plate so it can be mounted
elsewhere? I don’t know!!
Nice picture.

Have Fun
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JCHannum
03-12-2005, 09:03 PM
The eBay sale is an Atlas Milling Machine index center mounted on a sub-base. They came with 9 gears for indexing. It is kind of cobbled up with replacement plastic knobs and a balanced handle on the tailstock instead of the Zamac originally used.

The photo J Tiers has is the Shaper Index Center. It is a one piece affair that uses index plates. It came with two, 28 & 48, 30 & 36 holes.

Rich Carlstedt
03-12-2005, 10:11 PM
J said
"The gear setup for dividing isn't normal, the base isn't Atlas, and the T/S isn't either."

I beg to differ.
I made a Aluminum base like the one shown, so the "base" is not stock.
I still have one that came with my Atlas mill years ago.
yes,the knobs were modified , but the tailstock and head stock were the same. The gears used for indexing ,were the change gears for the mill.

J Tiers
03-13-2005, 12:06 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Rich Carlstedt:

I beg to differ.
I made a Aluminum base like the one shown, so the "base" is not stock.
I still have one that came with my Atlas mill years ago.</font>

Not the shaper one as per my pic.... it ain't that one.....and that is what we started off talking about.

There isn't any need or use for that base on the shaper one, as can easily be seen per the pic.

The mill one the ebay one may be, I've never seen the mill type. I think the ebay text even says its for the mill.