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pgmrdan
03-17-2005, 09:20 AM
When researching my new rifle I came across some varmint hunting websites. I've also been looking at the hunting information put out by the state of Iowa.

In Iowa groundhogs are considered a furbearer so you must either have a furbearer's license or a hunting license to take them. There is also a season!!!

Coyotes can be taken without limit 24 hours a day every day of the year but not groundhogs.

What do they make out of groundhog pelts, ladies coats? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Is it common for states to have a season on groundhogs?

On these websites I noticed people are talking about the groundhogs they've already taken. Not here. Hunters in Iowa have to wait another 3 months.

What's it like in your state?

happy02
03-17-2005, 10:00 AM
Prarie Dogs are listed as a non game species in Texas. They are not protected and there is no season or limit.
When I was a kid living in West Texas we hunted them some. I remember seeing huge towns of them that covered many acres. They make pretty good Coyote bait. A small light colored Owl, the Burrowing Owl or Dog Owl as we called it lived in the abandoned prarie dog holes and these birds would flush litterally at your feet creating much excitement...

Arbo
03-17-2005, 10:27 AM
the following is a quote directly from the PA Game commission web site. You do need a hunting license and an orange cap while hunting them.


WOODCHUCKS (GROUNDHOGS): No closed season, except Sundays and during the antlered and antlerless deer seasons and until noon daily during the spring gobbler turkey season.

Lynn Standish
03-17-2005, 10:58 AM
Here in Idaho, we call them Rockchucks because they like to burrow between the lava rock outcrops to make their colonies. It's about time for them to show up (they only come out of hibernation during the cool spring months and then go back down where it's cool). A bunch of us like to see how far away we can shoot them. My longest so far is 850 yards, but I'm sure I'll get a longer opportunity soon. Here, you have to have a hunting license to carry a gun in the field, but that's about it.

IOWOLF
03-17-2005, 11:27 AM
Well Dan, it is about the same here. But who would want to kill such a warm and fuzzy critter?

BillH
03-17-2005, 11:35 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
Well Dan, it is about the same here. But who would want to kill such a warm and fuzzy critter?</font>

Anyone who has had their garden mowed down to the ground by those bastiges.

andy_b
03-17-2005, 12:54 PM
or anyone who has had a polebarn knocked over, or anyone who has had a house foundation burrowed under, or anyone who has had a horse break a leg in one of their holes, or.....

i'm in PA and as Arbo posted, you can pretty much blast them any time you want. while not quite as populous as prairie dogs, there are a lot of them around.

andy b.

lynnl
03-17-2005, 01:04 PM
But, how will we know if there's to be six more weeks of winter? ...huh?

BWS
03-17-2005, 01:36 PM
Pretty much agree with andy_b.Polebarns,old houses,livestock.....reason enough.

Start(and usually end with)with a .223.

When distances or wind is a touch long,.243

Iffin in a hurry or particularlly angry,30-06

Up close and personal,.45 ACP or .44's

Get the H*ll outta the garden,12 gauge

Rich
03-17-2005, 01:52 PM
If the following proposal goes through we might be able to offer you an alternative to groundhogs here in Wisconsin.

http://www.madison.com/archives/read.php?ref=wsj:2005:03:06:406059:FRONT

This has provided some interesting discussion in the editorial page for the last couple weeks.The guy who has proposed this has even had a couple of death threats because of this.Those of us who have grown up in rural America understand that stray animals (pre PC term) sometimes had to be dispatched as they were a threat to our livestock and pets.My dad maintained a line of bluebird houses for years and I'm sure the trusty Winchester helped Mother Nature on occasion.I guess the PETA folks in Madison (60 sq miles surrounded by reality) don't understand that.Nueter and release?????Right----I guess you loose your appetite for tweety birds when you loose your balls.
Rich

RPease
03-17-2005, 02:00 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by lynnl:
But, how will we know if there's to be six more weeks of winter? ...huh?</font>

Rent the movie.........

BillH
03-17-2005, 02:11 PM
Great, shooting peoples pets... Most pet cats dont have collars.

pgmrdan
03-17-2005, 04:52 PM
IOWOLF said, "Well Dan, it is about the same here. But who would want to kill such a warm and fuzzy critter?"

Since you're also in Iowa I would hope it's about the same where you are. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Of course, I'd never shoot the warm little fuzzy creatures.

Al Messer
03-17-2005, 06:51 PM
After Memorial Day, they turn out really delicious on a Barbeque grill.

ibewgypsie
03-17-2005, 07:19 PM
LYNN..

I'd liked to have seen the 850 yard prarie dog shot. GEEZE, talk about ZEN.

Let me rephrase that. Impossible for me. My older brother did things with a $7 22 I have trouble with a $2500 rifle.

I watched him shoot a viper through the head at 100 yards, my baby brother was walking toward it in a diaper. He had went after his rifle and came out to see our lil brother heading toward it and he was too far away to intervene.
If I missed a squirrel and shot it through the body he griped me all the way home.

He died at 18, perfect teeth, perfect eyes.

David

IOWOLF
03-17-2005, 07:21 PM
Good observation Dan.I was yanking you.

I would never put a collar on a outside cat, Cats have a habit of going through fences I have seen cats hung up on fences where they crawl through.

PS,The A hole that shoots my cat better not have any thing he is close to.

Lew Hartswick
03-17-2005, 07:54 PM
Well all you "cat lovers" should keep the things
at home. Just like dog owners are required to. I get very
tired of picking up cat poop all over my back yard and
repairing damage to flower beds due to cats using them
for litter boxes. I also get tired of traping them and
taking to the pound and a few days later theyre back.
If they are running loose there "feral" and are open season.
...lew...

pgmrdan
03-17-2005, 07:59 PM
IOWOLF, I knew you were yanking my chain. That's why I had to respond.

I agree with you about collars. Regular collars can be deadly for cats. The elastic collars that won't hang a cat gets pulled off and lost after a few days. A collar makes no sense for a cat.

Tinker2
03-17-2005, 08:13 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lynn Standish:
A bunch of us like to see how far away we can shoot them. My longest so far is 850 yards</font>

Lynn
I think that in a few more years I will need scope to do that.
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Have Fun
Be Safe http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

madman
03-18-2005, 03:20 AM
I used to be a groundhog killer. Best shot ever was a measured 385 yards right through the varmints neck. I use a sauer 200 in .270 calibre with 90 grain hollow point boattail bullets. Amazing accuracy. Awesome and devestating effects. I once saw two big ground hogs in a field playing and actually rubbing there noses together. Kinda like I do to my wife. After that i quit terminating them and also cause I used to take europeans moose hunting way up north. In our area groundhogs are almost extinct. Take care Madman

Astro
03-18-2005, 05:49 AM
Like Lew, I'm tired of the neighbors cat climbing on my truck. Why can't they keep Fluffy in the house as dog owners are required. Here's a video for all the cat lovers.

http://www.m90.org/view_image.php?image_id=2057

Robert

wierdscience
03-18-2005, 08:53 AM
PETA was down here protecting the nuetra rats http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//rolleyes.gifthose poor,defenseless 35lb rats http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

PETA lady(read dimwit Trustifarian)decided to resuce one trapped in a guy's backyard.She reached down to pick it up and even though she had on glooves it bit the end of her middle finger off down to the first joint,after that nobody had a problem with killing neutra http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Don't know if they still do,but Louisiana used to have a $3 a head bounty on the buggers because they strip the landscape of everything green.

[This message has been edited by wierdscience (edited 03-18-2005).]

wierdscience
03-18-2005, 09:26 AM
My personal favorite http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/wierdscience/Curiosity_Killed_These_Cats.gif

Lynn Standish
03-18-2005, 12:31 PM
IBEW, Tinker2, et al....

I like to build and tinker with rifles. The rifle I used for that shot was a big .22, i.e. a 6.5 x 55 Swede case necked down to .224. It has a 30" straight cylinder barrel (1.25" diameter from breech to muzzle). It is built on a trued Remington 700 action with a 2 oz. trigger, and the whole barrel and action are attached to a McMillan Tooley MBR stock via a barrel block in front of the action. This means the action and barrel are free floated with only the barrel block touching the stock. At the moment, it's wearing a Pentax 8.5 - 32 X scope with a mil-dot ranging reticle, mounted on tapered bases. The tapered bases are so there will be enough elevation adjustment in the scope to get out to 1,000 yards and beyond. It is set up with a tight neck chamber (you have to turn some brass off the case necks to get them to fit in the chamber) and throated to use custom 80 grain bullets made by JLK. These come out the end at close to 3600 fps. The whole thing weighs almost 20 lbs, so it is shot off a bench/bags -- not offhand. Lot of $ and time in it, and it's only good for shooting chucks http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

ibewgypsie
03-18-2005, 01:41 PM
I emailed my brother the "snake" post to see if he remembered. Yes he does, slightly differently but he does.

&lt;Quote:&gt;
Yes and think it was suppose to be non poisonious PUFF ADDER or something like that for the snake?
I was out of diapers. Johnny shot it with his bolt action single = one-shot .22 calibur. Hit it in the head as it was spread out and dancing like a cobra's head before it struck. It was a vicious acting snake.

Incidently if you remember Johnny shot like that for a reason = I liked squirrel dumplins.
Only food - meat we had at times!
He was probably the best shot in the family seen him shoot a squirrel on the run up a limb and still hit it in the eye at about 75 yards or better. That snake was probably an easier shot. As for the snake if you remember Johnny used to collect snakes and I had a stick in my hand was going to get that snake for him. Remember he used to catch snakes with a stick. Just trying to be like big brother for catching a snake with a stick. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif
I read somewhere that Some Puff Adders are poisonious - for whatever reason Johnny did not want to catch that snake?

hwehehehe.

Don

&lt;End quote&gt;

Minor differences in memory, but reading his email reminded me of him "out shooting" me with "my" bull barreled Ruger pistol. So, even building the "best" rifle you can imagine expect to get out shot by someone you never expected.

David

mattc
03-18-2005, 02:40 PM
I dont have ground hogs or snakes here to shoot at but the squirls are fare game (and the cat that decided my porch was a good litter box) when people offer to give me a cat I tell them "no thanks I dont need the target practice today" I get some dirty looks but they get the message

Matt in AK

Tinker2
03-18-2005, 04:33 PM
Lynn

Sounds like a very nice setup. Show us some pictures of it. Pictures of
how it’s mounted in the stock. tell us what you did to true up the action.
What’s the reason behind the 6.5X55 to 22. choice?? I think that a
lot of people on this bbs have some interest in some gunsmithing.

I like to build and tinker with firearms also. I like the 6.5X55 I would
probably like it necked up or down also. I’m not a benchrest shooter
but I do like good workmanship. Start a new post and show us.

Have Fun
Be Safe http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif