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ibewgypsie
03-06-2005, 09:03 PM
Just a quick note: If you catch the strain of flu going around get to a doctor.

Paula Grace Jeffress IN Calhoun Ga died today from flu complications. She was on her way with her father to the hospital and the arteries/veins in her throat ruptured from coughing. She died in the truck, Attempts to keep her alive failed.

I refused to tattoo her 4 years ago because of her poor skin color and health. I am quite sure this caused it. Skin color/texture has a lot to do with a persons health. She drank constantly.

Mike (my buddy who painted the black on my bike), His wife is a nurse, they got the same strain of flu, the doctor gave them both Z-pac with extension. Now, both them are healthy and the doctor was worried.

Must be some kind of flu. If you catch it don't screw around. get some medical attention.

Today:
I just cut a dead tree, it was in the way of the new chainlink fence line. A 3" limb fell on me, a high block stopped it from hitting my head but severly bruised my arm. Gotta love good reflexes. I sunk my feet about a inch and half into the ground and almost stepped outa my shoes when I moved. About ten more blows like that would have drove me in like a nail.. (ha.. that'd been funny)
A grape vine hung the tree up.. I had to skid the tree trunk down the hill with a iron bar. I was afraid it'd fall on my building. I was soaking wet when it finally hit the ground.

David

wierdscience
03-06-2005, 09:15 PM
Ya,that flu is bad,to bad for us it's different every year.

Watch them tree limbs,had a friend who nearly got skewered through and through.The thing went in about 4",took quite awhile to heal up.

mikem
03-06-2005, 09:16 PM
Your neighbor with a video camera could be rich just following you around and then sending the tapes to America's Funniest Videos. Step back, take life a little slower, and live longer to enjoy all the tools and toys you have in what few years we have left. Life is short enough, don't help shorten it yourself. Your friend--Mike.

spope14
03-06-2005, 09:41 PM
I have seen that flu here in my area (New Hampshire). several of my students have been out from 7 to 10 days from it, almost 60% all said and done. been short on staff for the past three months in our whole school district. I would say this flu has put teaching behind by about three weeks. There is a second strain going around, three to five days, I would say between the two, 90% of the students and staff have had it. My kid got it, four days out ajnd a full weekend. My wife was three days out and a full weekend.

I got the flu, was never out, but should have been. I struggled through it for three days of work due to about 40% of staff being out, and my being close to the school. Suffered through a three day weekend immediately after and a major snow storm in the process having to clean it up =- five hours to do two hours work. Five weeks and change later, I am now just back, but still some base effects in the sinuses and strength loss. Only spent one and 1/2 days in bed, but 30 hours sleep, and 12 hours per night of sleep, and about 50% worthless as a teachr (which, is still pretty good all said and done, compared to no teacher). Work, come home, sleep - but for the snow storm. Then after all of this, wife and kid got it, I lapsed into minimal sleep and maximal work to do my job, take care of more snow, and take care of them. Then mother in law died while I was hit the second time. Yeah, it is a bad one. I did not have opportunity to take care of myself, and will probably have a week more of recovery all said and done.

take care of yourself, and if you do not, you were warned.

BillH
03-06-2005, 09:47 PM
Ever since I started taking a daily regiment of tabasco sauce on my breakfast, lunch, and sometimes dinner, for the past 3 years now, havent gotten sick.
Perhaps a coincidence, but again, perhaps not. I used to get the flu every year.

ibewgypsie
03-06-2005, 09:56 PM
Bill, Doc's salsa on my homepage there on the link above, it'll knock out a head cold.

It's just pickled jalepeno peppers, garlic and green/white onions.
Last I made with tomatos from central america gave me the craps. I was not happy. Not made any here since. Having a high-acid content in the body makes the virus'es and other bacterias move on. Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) taken every two hours will hurry the flu right on. Makes it burn when you pee like you got the clap thou.

David

speedy
03-06-2005, 10:05 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BillH:
Ever since I started taking a daily regiment of tabasco sauce on my breakfast, lunch, and sometimes dinner, for the past 3 years now, havent gotten sick.
Perhaps a coincidence, but again, perhaps not. I used to get the flu every year.</font>

Hi ya Bill, I use cayenne powder frequently on my food, also massive garlic doses when I feel 'out of sorts' and I seem to be free of flu. Zinc is good, I am told it allows the body to metabolise the vitamins more
efficiently.

Thanks for the warning Dave. Ya gotta keep the immune system healthy to have a chance against these bugs. I don't hold with innoculation as a first resort as I feel that they are short term and too specific.

My father-in-law was pile driven into the ground by a felled tree when he was a young man and was saved by a nearby tree stump stopping the process; he was knocked out cold and discovered by his brother some time later. His top vertabrae were almost destroyed and he survives to this day in his 80's: he is a hard working Kiwi boy with guts.

Ken

wierdscience
03-06-2005, 10:16 PM
Cure for anything-

1 sack fresh oysters
1 heeling knife
1 bottle Tobasco
1 6 pack Busch or similar

Wack,shuck,squirt,swallow and your done http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

ibewgypsie
03-06-2005, 10:18 PM
A hung up tree is a very dangerous thing. I started sweating when it would not fall. No real telling which way it will roll from hung up limbs.

Mike:
I am not stupid, I try to be as careful as I can when I do things. Problem is I am all alone here. When my muscles are too sore to sand the sheetrock I started on the porch, when my back and ankles were telling me shingling was too much fun I started driving / concreting fence posts for the new fence. Now I am almost back to the sheetrock finishing again. (have 36 more posts and 320 feet of fence to do)
Not enough Davids/Carrols to cover the list of things to do so I can start enjoying life again. Mountain stone on the foundation / poured concrete wall is what I dread.. I know.. I will hate that.

David

spope14
03-06-2005, 10:20 PM
You know what, hre is some truth to the tabasco thing....Ihave not had rabasco on anything in months. never got the flu before this year, tabasco was like salt to others for my meals.

Also curbed my Sam Adams intake a couple of months back.

I know know how to get better.

ibewgypsie
03-06-2005, 10:21 PM
Wierd:

A klien rubber grip 4" square shank screwdriver is the "best Shucker knife" you'll ever hold. Rubber grip will not slip as your hands are wet. Try it, you'll like it.

David

speedy
03-06-2005, 10:39 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by wierdscience:
Wack,shuck,squirt,swallow and your done http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif</font>

Your sure that your talking about oysters here?? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

cheers, Ken

precisionworks
03-06-2005, 10:54 PM
Gypsie,

Worked for the Forest Service in 1971, Powell Ranger Station, Lolo, MT. Our crew cleared trails through the wilderness area so horse-packers could get in & out. Bill, the trail boss, called any deadfall tree "widowmaker".

mendoje
03-06-2005, 11:02 PM
Peppers among the food types which have the highest concentrations of vitamin C.

Jeff

Milacron of PM
03-06-2005, 11:26 PM
Re exterior contact virus prevention, stop rubbing your eyes ! Touch something...door knob at a restaurant, keyboard at work, whatever...it may have virus residue..gets on your fingers, you rub your eyes and you get infected.

Of course pickin your nose is even worse, but I *know* none of you guys *ever* do that ! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

x39
03-06-2005, 11:46 PM
Heed D. Thomas's words. The hands are the most common carriers of germs. During flu/cold season, I wash my hands as soon as I get home from a trip to town. One of my friends just got over the flu, he was laid up for a week. I can't afford such luxuries as being ill. Sorry about your friend Dave.

[This message has been edited by x39 (edited 03-06-2005).]

precisionworks
03-07-2005, 01:05 AM
Gypsie, we went riding today. Just a little colder than we thought.

http://www.rallytwin.com/harleys/Winter_riding.jpg

scooter
03-07-2005, 10:33 AM
Isn't a "z-pak"(azithromyacin)an antibiotic? Should have no effect on a viral infection unless it's treating associated complications.

ibewgypsie
03-07-2005, 10:53 AM
Scooter:

Mike n Dee (his wife) had a chest cold after the head cold and drainage. Both were wheezing/choked with flem. I suppose both had a viral infection going on akin to pneumonia. Mike can still hardly talk. I stayed clear of him while he was sick. Been too busy around here.

You know aid's kills most people with a viral infection? Not the sorry disease itself but complications from it's attack upon the immune system. I guess the flu does the same.

ME? Today, I have to redo the brakes on the Saturn car. My left arm, the one I blocked the limb with and was so proud it didn't knock my brains out.. I can hardly move my fingers for the swelling in the forearm. Seen that before. Perhaps the rain will save me from working on the car. Imagine if the limb had a sharp branch sticking out or the end had hit first, I'd still be laying down in the edge of the woods pinned to the ground.

Saturn cars, CHEAP transportation. Rotors are $12 ea. Calipers like $30 ea. Pads (Wagner premium) the best are $49. Deposit on the calipers are $50 each. I guess they really want the old ones back? It sure looks to have the GM quad valve engine in there too. We only got 20k on the last brake job. Them were autozone lifetime pads. The drivers rotor is cut 1/4" deep.

debequem
03-07-2005, 10:59 AM
Sorry for the loss of your friend. My heart goes out to you and their family.

In southern Ohio we had a rash of what the doctor called sinus infection. I never get sick, well; occasionally I get a cold once a year. However, I was very sick from this infection and so was many people at work and in the area.

The symptoms were very flu like and that was what I thought it was. Got a runny nose Monday, ended by Tuesday. Felt blah on Wednesday, got worse Thurday and I was grateful to get home after work and hit the bed, but did not sleep. I was delirious that night and Friday (stayed home Friday). I felt the fever break at 2:00 PM Friday and felt a lot better, Saturday the fever was down to 102 when I went to the doctors and got Zithromax (Z-Pack). The doctor had seen a whole lot of this going around!

I spent the next two days in bed (took Monday off) and returned Tuesday morning. When I went to work I felt like I was in a surreal world as I drove. Very weird effect, but it burned off by lunch and I felt much, much better.

Many of us at work had it bad and stayed home, then came back and had a relapse a few days later and were out again! Fortunately, I did not relapse. Somehow my wife never got sick. Bless here for taking such good care of me!!!

Now, what worries me is a Bird Flu mutation that allows person-to-person transmission! Bird Flu has a 72% mortality rate!!!

Just imagine what would happen to the world if 2/3 of the human population were wiped out by disease! Yes, it has happened in the past, but that was when technology was nonexistent. Today everyone is totally dependent on technology to survive. If we had a 66% mortality in our population we would totally loose power, hospitals, infrastructure to supply transportation, communication, and worse yet, food! Of the remaining 33% how many would know how to grow food, get fresh potable water, and manage basic survival skills? What about the dead? Disease would be rampart because nobody could bury all of the dead. Most, at least, would perish in their homes.

How many of the 33% survivors would be alive a year later?

Such a hit would probably throw humanity back into the dark ages for a decade or two!

Let’s hope we can stay on top of the next mutation of those viruses. Oh, by the way, there is no current medical treatment to cure an outbreak of a virus. Virology is a fascinating subject and an amazing mechanism.

Again, sorry for your loss.

Marv

Evan
03-07-2005, 11:46 AM
Watch out for this flu. The current flu shot is no protection. They guessed wrong on the strain.

As for tree falling I have felled many trees, maybe thousands. Tree falling is the number one most dangerous job. You really have to keep your wits about you and work with extreme care. The biggest hazard is wind. Got a bunch of trees to take out this spring, something has killed a dozen of my pine trees, probably bark beetle. It's looking like we might be in for a fire season this year that will make the last two years look like a picnic. Snow pack levels are only 30% of normal or lower. On Vancouver Island the snow pack level is exactly zero percent of normal.

"Last year, Forbes reported that people who work in logging, fishing, piloting small aircraft, steelworking, mining and drilling, roofing, construction, and truck driving have the most dangerous jobs in the United States, in that order. Loggers have the worst fatality rate, at 122.1 deaths per 100,000 workers."

http://www.penmachine.com/2003/02/is-being-astronaut-most-dangerous-job.html

John Stevenson
03-07-2005, 11:54 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:

As for tree falling I have felled many trees, maybe thousands. </font>

No no Evan you are getting confused again, tree's not pop rivits http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

John S.

Just kidding mate.

ibewgypsie
03-07-2005, 01:16 PM
Debq:

Imagine, another 3%-10% would commit suicide if the sitcoms and soaps were not on tele. Or thier favorite brand of beer was not available.

The world can change in a day or less. I envisioned myself as a conqueror as the Y2K crisis was about to fall. Now I see myself as a worried sick man dependent on mediciene to stay alive.

David

debequem
03-07-2005, 01:43 PM
David,

I hadn't thought about the mortality rate due to TV deprivation. ;-) Good catch!!!

x39
03-07-2005, 02:12 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ibewgypsie:
Or thier favorite brand of beer was not available. </font>

Now that would be a crisis!

madman
03-07-2005, 02:15 PM
David my lumberjack friend red had a tree fall right on his head, I guess when youre whackin trees up in kirkland kake in the winter and in snow up to your waist its hard to jump out of the way. Lucky he had one of those cheap harhhats on. Kinda squished his neck a bit but cause hes a frenchman you wouldnt even notice. Canadians are a tough bunch.

ibewgypsie
03-07-2005, 03:02 PM
Madman, so are the hairy women from "that part of the world"

HA.. I had this french girlfriend, she told this 1%er bike club I could whip them all... Perhaps she just thought I was a frenchman?
She peed up my back on the ride home.

I am so much happier with Carrol. She don't ride, she can drive the truck with the beer and tents in it. She's a big girl with a big heart.

David....

Tinker2
03-07-2005, 05:06 PM
I am sorry about your friend. Take care of yourself and your family.

mattc
03-07-2005, 05:26 PM
I used the wench on the front of my truck (with a snatch block) to fall a tree last fall, just as the wench cable went limp a gust of wind caught the tree and droped it across my truck http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

Matt in AK

uncrichie
03-07-2005, 07:58 PM
Someone mentioned the Bird Flu, its running rampant in Asia right now and the mortality rate if 3 out of 4. Its just around the corner and will be knocking on our door next year. Keep your ear to the evening world news, its mentioned about 1-2 times weekly. Uncrichie...

caddy
03-24-2005, 12:34 AM
Just recovering from this flu. NASTY, NASTY bug. I was flat on my back for 5 days and have been hacking and coughing for a full week after that.

madman
03-24-2005, 02:56 AM
Maybe im not drunk enough yet but wasnt there a identical post like this a while ago David. Are you having a acid flashback, I get them still once in a while. Kinda enjoy them a bit makes things kinda weird for a little while. Alcohol has replaced the many years of drug abuse.

madman
03-24-2005, 03:14 AM
Hey dave whats a guy your age doing up so late. **** yer bed or are there some good porn movies on satellite tv that you havent seen yet. LOL. I wish I had a satellite tv system. Up here in canada all we gots is beer,. .éh

rsr911
03-25-2005, 02:51 AM
Just recovering myself, would up in the ER over that damn bug. Be careful guys, it is realy nasty. They've got me on the "BRAT" diet (bananas, rice, applesauce and toast) just starting to eat white meat today. I was out for almost 10 days. Making matters worse for me since I couldn't keep any food down I also couldn't keep my anti-anxiety meds down either which has made me a nervous wreck. ER doc told me the best thing I'd done was to drink about a gallon of gatorade each day and told me next time to crush my meds and mix them into it. BTW it was the clear kind, gatorade ice I think. My mother brought over a big pot of the family's secret chicken soup yesterday, been sipping that and eating as much as I can. I'm still only at about half my strength.

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-Christian D. Sokolowski

Anzaniste
03-25-2005, 05:21 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mattc:
I used the wench on the front of my truck (with a snatch block) to fall a tree last fall, just as the wench cable went limp a gust of wind caught the tree and droped it across my truck http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

Matt in AK</font>

Here in England a wench on the front of the truck means some thing quite different as does a snatch for that matter. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

madman
03-25-2005, 08:05 PM
David up here in Canada we all have buck tools on our belts. They are right beside our led flashlights. Then if we happen to get pinned under a tree branch instead of gnawing our trapped limb off with our teeth. (Some of us aint got too many front ones left) we just pull out the buck tool and saw that trapped limb clean off. If its dark we hold the led light in our teeth while we cut.

balexander
04-12-2005, 09:50 PM
A word ofwarning to my fellow social drinkers. Don't use alcohol if you are taking Tylenol (in any form) for those flulike symtoms. In some cases the liver just can't handle it, I have a beautiful adopted daughter because her mom tried it. Beware of this deadly combo.