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rockrat
04-17-2005, 10:11 AM
I finally got the monster home. A Van Norman 22L horizontal - vertical mill. I know that I have asked before but... if you have any info, please pass it along. The links given previously have been a fantastic resource.

The machine came with some accessories. A Slotting head, drilling head (sucks), low lead dividing head, low lead rotary table, collets, horizontal arbors, horizontal yoke, etc...

I told dad about the iron that I bought and he wanted to help move it. And who am I to turn help down? I just had to watch what I asked him to do. I would hate to injure his shoulder, but he would probably never tell me if he did. We would probably just act like nothing was wrong and never tell the other how tired, sore or injured we were. Similar to returning from hunting. Sooner or later, one of the guys will fall asleep but upon waking, the first asleep will claim the others were alseep first and he decided that he might as well take a nap too. Must be a guy thing. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

At the house we moved the machine the old way, with out a forklift. But first, we got the machine loaded on the trailer at the pickup location & used a lift there. Better to cheat when lifting and use ramps to lower if you have the choice.

I bought the machine from Wilber, a great guy. He had a forklift that we thought would make the grade. The funny thing about this machine was that the name of the lift manufacturer was Hyster. Not funny in itself, but someone had attached the letter S in front of the name. The "Shyster" forklift had just enough life in it to get the job started. But it would only lift the machine about 6" off the ground at a time. So after lifting & blocking, lifting & blocking we got the machine high enough to get on the trailer.

As we worked, the fellow that lived behind Wilbers shop made his way to the back fence that seperated his yard from the alley we were working in. This looked like the kind of guy who was enjoying his retirement by working in the yard a little, watching the cars go by or playing with the grandkids.

Well, all of the activity had sparked his attention. I looked up at one time and asked him if he had ever seen so many fools trying to do a job. He mentioned something about the city workers that had been digging a hole in his front yard a year earlier and smiled. He looked like he was ready to roll up his sleves and help us out if we had asked. We probably made his day.

We lashed the Van Norman down, shook hands and drove away. A 25 mile trip across town was a nice rest before the real work began.

First we got the machine home. Click the picture for bigger photos.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/van%20norman/th_IMG_0754.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/van%20norman/IMG_0754.jpg)

Then, we checked dimensions and distances to make sure that the machine, as it was lowered down the ramp, would clear the eves of the garage. Next, we marked the area where the wheels were and pulled the trailer away. Then, we dug holes with the little red snapper tiller that I got for free. (every guy needs a free red snapper - tiller that is http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif)

Next, the trailer was backed into the holes and the deck ends up only inches off of the ground.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/van%20norman/th_IMG_0760-1.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/van%20norman/IMG_0760-1.jpg)

Next we lashed one end of a come-along to the machine and the other end to the front of the trailer. The machine had some pipes pushed under it that we could roll it and get ready to move the beast.

The front of the trailer was cranked up to get a light angle on the deck. At this point the chain and come-along assembly slowly took up the slack as the machine found mean Mr. Gravity.

After digging a small hole near the concrete, we found 2 4x4 timbers and put them at the end of the trailer. The other end of the timbers sat in a hole, which allowed us to roll the machine off of the trailer, onto the timber & then onto the floor.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/van%20norman/th_IMG_0764.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/van%20norman/IMG_0764.jpg)

Rolling the machine back into place took some trial and error. There are notches in the base of the machine. It would roll nicely on the bars until the bars fell into the notch. But, it is now in place and after a bit of work, I found new places for everything that I had to move out of the corner to get the machine in.


Now, I can start playing. Happy day. Cheers! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

One other note, photobucket makes nice little images for you. I dont know why I didn't think of this before. The above photos were added using the following format

[ U R L =http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/van%20norman/IMG_0764.jpg] [ I M G ]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/van%20norman/th_IMG_0764.jpg[ / I M G ] [ / U R L ]

Note above, Photobucket adds a th_ to the start of your photo name to make the thumbnail (or smaller photo) for thier website. I decided to use thier pre thumbnailed photos for display here. So I used the method Carl had noted earlier and added th_ to the start of the image name. Dont forget to remove the spaces out of the [ ]'s to make it work. I added them to keep the html from displaying a photo there.


[This message has been edited by rockrat (edited 04-17-2005).]

precisionworks
04-17-2005, 10:34 AM
Rockrat,

Good work! Lots of 22L info on this search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=van+norman+22l

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Barry Milton

bob308
04-17-2005, 12:05 PM
you did it about the same way i moved most of my machines in my shop.one hint jack the front of the trailer up and use a comealong to let the machine down the incline.

John Stevenson
04-17-2005, 12:23 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bob308:
you did it about the same way i moved most of my machines in my shop.one hint jack the front of the trailer up and use a comealong to let the machine down the incline.</font>


From his original post:-
"The front of the trailer was cranked up to get a light angle on the deck. At this point the chain and come-along assembly slowly took up the slack as the machine found mean Mr. Gravity."