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Your Old Dog
06-16-2005, 06:36 AM
on buying that new digital camera for the shop. Keep this in mind. Koday yesterday announced in Rochester that they will no longer be supporting Black and White printing paper for photographers.

BTW, Got any film cameras you don't want to get stuck with better head to ebay fast ! Be a shame to have a nice Hasselblad sitting in the family closet with no gas (film).

Swarf&Sparks
06-16-2005, 07:48 AM
You haven't heard of Ilford?

Swarf&Sparks
06-16-2005, 09:21 AM
http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/bw.html

I aint selling my old speed graphic yet

BillH
06-16-2005, 09:45 AM
Hmm, if you have any hassalblad medium format cameras you just want to throw away, instead send em to me!

Swarf&Sparks
06-16-2005, 09:48 AM
overrated, just file a notch in the inner edge of the film holder, and any medium format camera will give the same results http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

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J Tiers
06-16-2005, 12:19 PM
Ah... this is the elusive "other thread".


In any case that's WRONG, because even they will apparently continue to make the film. So the cameras are OK.

BTW, I hope they have another business, because all the Kodak digital anything I have touched seemed pretty junky.

A relative just bought a Kodak camera 6.1mP, which does seem OK though. I haven't used it yet. I wonder who in china OEM'd it to them?

PHiers
06-16-2005, 07:02 PM
Well I have a Kodak digital. Model DX6490. It is marked "Made in Japan" and it does take excellent pictures. Some of the ones I took in Washington DC last year I printed out 11x14, put them beside one of the ones I scanned and printed from my Nikon 35mm, can't see any difference.

Of course your mileage can, and probably will vary. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif


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Paul in NE Ohio

snowman
06-16-2005, 07:06 PM
So, if you take a picture with that 6.1 mP camera, print them at say, 24x36 and put them next to the print i make on kodak paper with my large format camera, will you notice the difference?

hell yes you will

it's disappointing, but i print on ilford paper anyway. their finances aren't much better though http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

I wonder if kodak will continue to make chemicals for processing paper.

-Jacob

PHiers
06-16-2005, 07:24 PM
Well of course you would notice, you are comparing apples and oranges, Jacob. A large format camera will always have sharper pictures at 24x36. 35mm tops out at 11x14 for the most part, this is what I was comparing. My kodak is not 6 mp tho, it is only 4, a couple of years old now. In my old age it is easier to carry with it's 38x380 opticial zoom than my 35mm Nikon with five or six lens.

What I would really like is a 8x10 view camera. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//cool.gif


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Paul in NE Ohio

ibewgypsie
06-16-2005, 07:49 PM
KPR, developer, isn't that supposed to work for black and white film developing and also circuit board etch resist?

By the way, I read about cutting inlet 2stroke valves out with saline,.. SALT water to all you kids... Using electrolisis. (Can't spell it but I can hook the wires up) Ha.. I'm really beat.

I wonder how good that works for things other than knife marking?

David

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Your Old Dog
06-17-2005, 09:19 PM
Snowman & PHeirs I find that much of the critique of digital photos comes from looking at them on the monitor. There is much information on this print of a foggy Hoyt lake http://www.raysstuff.com/Scenicpsgal/

that does not show up until you see the 11X17 print (which only cost $4.99). There is a sign at the waters edge that pixelates long before you can read it. In the print made at 300 DPI it is readable.

35mm film doesn't show me much over 6.1 megapixel images. Golfball sized snow and lack of contrast in prints is no more appealing to me than pixels in digital work. My advice, dump yesterday stuff while you can still buy some of tomorrows toys with the proceeds! I'd sure like to get my hands on a large format digital back!