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10-09-2002, 11:31 PM
i need to do some reading. i just purchased my first mill. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif i bought a 9 x 42 bridgeport and am in the process of setting it up. i just found this web site and after reading some of the post it is obvious i need to do alot of reading on the subject of mill work. can you guys recommend a good book to get a newbie started.

10-10-2002, 12:21 AM
Brown & Sharpe's "Treatise on Milling" is a true classic, but hard to find. The Cincinati book is more up to date, but I do not recall its title. Also "Machine Shop Practice".

Try www.lindsaybks.com (http://www.lindsaybks.com) for some great reprints of classic machining books.

Go to www.mmsonline.com (http://www.mmsonline.com) for metal working specific publishers or search on www.thomasregister.com (http://www.thomasregister.com)

If you can find one a high school or tech school course would be far better than trying to learn about the machine the braile method (Blindly) yiou are purposing. Try to find someone to teach you about the Bridgeport FIRST and for God's sake follow all the safety precautions - it is no toy.

Al Messer
10-10-2002, 08:08 AM
Argus Books publishes "Vertical Milling in the Home Workshop" by Arnold Thorpe.

John Stevenson
10-10-2002, 09:40 AM
Go to http://www.abebooks.com amd type in
"Treatise on Milling" you will get a load of hits. There is a Linsey reprint there for $9.00
There are three books in the series. A Treatise on Milling being the best allround book.
The Throp book [ not Thorpe ] is also a good home shop one. There are also 5 copies of this on Abebooks but unfortunatle two are in Oz and the other three are in the UK.

John S.

10-10-2002, 01:07 PM
Dave , every thing i know of female anatomy was learned by the Braille system. I agree about learning the safety things BEFORE practicing on the real stuff. lots to learnedfrom books.


10-10-2002, 04:50 PM
yeow!! $US75? double that for Oz dollars & add some postage = expensive.

John Stevenson
10-10-2002, 05:30 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tel:
yeow!! $US75? double that for Oz dollars & add some postage = expensive.</font>

What's $75??

John S.

Alistair Hosie
10-10-2002, 05:37 PM
try this site Alistair

Alistair Hosie
10-10-2002, 05:42 PM
docsteve Why wasn't I in your biology class ?Man some people have all the fun maybe its a goog thing I wasn't I'm all fingers and thumbs with practical biology. Is that why they call you Doc? Alistair

10-10-2002, 05:49 PM
Yeah, I've wondered about his username too. Must've played 'Doctor' at lot as a kid, eh Steve?

10-10-2002, 07:28 PM
you guys got it all wrong.
1. I am no md- hate to visit the doc!
2. I live in doctors inlet fla
3. When I was working over seas, kind of a trouble shooter, consultant i was called Doc Steve- cause I won't answer to my given name and likse Hadacol (rememberthat stuff? , they had to call me something.
4. I do have a PhD- but i cant read the diploma. It was given me by VietNamese for services rendered. Purely honorary, may still have the paper buried in my pass ports and records. The 66 was the age way back when I first went on line and went to yahoo chat room. they would not let me have Steve, Doc, DocSteve so I added the age and got a yahoo name. Wish I had used 1931 (date of birth).
Parents named me Lecil Elbert, supposedly after a civil war uncle who was in trouble in texas with the Union (reconstruction) and hunted by the KKK. Couldn'tget along with ANYONE. Turned out (census records) that Dad was born lecil Elbert Hicks, got into trouble in Texas changed name to Stevens, jailed in Lousiana for selling cotton on sunday, escaped prison, fled to calif, and brought mother, sis and me to calif in early depression years. Picked cotton , fruit, wheat harvest etc til I left home. Went to maybe 50 schools. Try being a snot nosed cotton picking kid with a name like Lecil http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif. So Doc or Steve it is. Better than being a boy named Sue- but not much. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

10-10-2002, 08:51 PM
I think the doc part is cool. I get that once in awhile as in my job I have to repair alot of small items that require alot of care.
There are several books reprinted by lindsay that are great. Machine shop practice is also very good and covers more than mills.

10-11-2002, 09:42 AM
Okay so now you have a mill, and a B'port at that. About half the crew will be green with envy.
First-- you need a simple project--So build a set of parallels. They are something you need and it gives experience in feeds and speeds as well as cutter selection.
Second --Learn to "dial" your vice to parallel to the ways. Use a dial and dial from center to one side.
Third--Buy the best attachments you can afford and only the ones you need.
Forth-- read, read ,read ask, ask, ask, This is how I spend my "lunch hour"
Fifth-- as to what books-- Home Shop Machinist, Any and all the Village Press books, Machinerys Handbook, Any and all trade magazines you can scam, all three of the "bedside readers",Still not enough? then go to your second hand bookstore.
As for asking--This is a good site -- Big Gorrillas, old farts, shop teachers, misinformed and psuedo experts, engineers, the list is endless. So oil up your new toy and have at it. SAFETY FIRST so wear those silly glasses and roll up your sleeves.

Ragarsed Raglan
10-11-2002, 11:46 AM
I must admit I thought you were a Phd, now I know you are even more 'qualified' ~ in fact a man from the best university in the world, the school of hard knocks. I salute you Sir.

I agree with everything Stepside has written, well almost, I'm one of the 50% that is not too enamoured with a BP mill!!! (but that's just a European thing). In fact the item about making up some parallels is right on, as experiance gained in 'blocking up' and getting your parallels parallel (I know it don't read right does it!) will serve you well ~ especially when you tighten the vice and they lift!!!

Best of luck and keep coming here, it's full of good advice and info, plus a little humour as well.

From one of the old fart, mis informed pseudo experts (I HATE the word, and object to being called an expert ~ it reminds me of my old boss who said when someone called him an expert...." 'x' is the unknown quantity....and 'spurt' is a drip under pressure!")


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10-11-2002, 04:58 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by John Stevenson:
What's $75??

John S.


The 'Treatise on Milling' mentioned earlier. Too rich for this pensioner. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

[This message has been edited by Tel (edited 10-11-2002).]

John Stevenson
10-11-2002, 05:11 PM
No Tel,
Go to http://www.abebooks.com
Type in 'Treatise on Milling' for the subject and then at the top 'Sort By' click lowest price.
You then get a list up and the first four hits are $9, $14, $20 and $20
Didn't bother going any furthur.

John S.

Robert Jones
10-11-2002, 05:15 PM
I bought a copy off e-bay, paid less than $20 for it. Since then, I have seen other copies offered, they seem to come up often. Bobby

10-12-2002, 06:52 AM
Thanks John - now I got it, originally just went to the oz bit & only one at US$75. Looks like it might be sold - didn't see it there today.

10-12-2002, 03:33 PM
thanks guys

i got some reading to do.