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wierdscience
08-17-2005, 12:58 AM
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1089742609068_85151809?s_name=&no_ads=


The surgeon general reports that prolonged exposure to sunlight may cause skin cancer http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

I can see it now,even as we speak some ambulance chasers are sitting around trying to figure out just who to name in the're new class action case,people wanting a disability check for the're "addiction",heck maybe even a new twelve step program http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//rolleyes.gif

rsr911
08-17-2005, 01:33 AM
Ridiculous? probably but speaking as a man in recovery from chemical abuse (I won't specify here) I can tell you that my addiction nearly killed me and a relapse in the not to distant past lead me to a 12 step program which probably saved my life. That said the ambulance chasers can go to hell! Here's a good example, I'm a smoker and I don't deserve one red cent from the lawsuits against tobacco companies. I smoke with full knowledge that it's very bad for my health. Addicts deserve no special treatment but please don't knock 12 step programs, I've met some of the most honest and real people in the rooms as should be expected from a group of people trying to help each other.

dvideo
08-17-2005, 01:58 AM
Do you really want to stand unprotected - directly in line with a Nuclear Fusion Furnace? How can this be safe? :>

--jr

Arcane
08-17-2005, 03:45 AM
Nice tan... http://www.compfused.com/directlink/869/

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speedy
08-17-2005, 04:20 AM
That is truly amazing. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif I always wondered why I preferred to be out in the suns' warm rays rather than inside the house under the loungeroom incandescent lamp http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

And why do I prefer the warm sunny days to the wet cold ones??
Perhaps a team of researchers can discover the reasons and elaborate?
I`m really keen to discover the reason http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif
Ken

Alistair Hosie
08-17-2005, 05:50 AM
Hey Darin everyone here is addicted to tools so what's the difference http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gifAlistair

Your Old Dog
08-17-2005, 07:16 AM
I'm no authority on the matter but I'm a student of behaviorial science myself. I've noticed a corelation between where/how people get hurt and where lawyers hang out.
I try to avoid those places.

Do you really want to stand unprotected - directly in line with a Nuclear Fusion Furnace? How can this be safe? :>

Dvideo, thanks for pointing that out. I been milling around in front of one of those things my entire life. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

To you recovering addicts out there: You folks stand pretty tall in my eyes. I was hooked on cigarettes for 37 years. Quit about 6 years ago at 3 pack a day. The only good thing I could say about cigarettes is they kept me off the really hard stuff. My life wouldn't have lasted but 6 months on the really hard stuff. Stay strong, live large.

gkman11
08-17-2005, 08:26 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Hey Darin everyone here is addicted to tools so what's the difference Alistair.</font>

Seems like however much tapping fluid or way oil I drink, I never wrap my car around a phone pole. Not so lucky with alcohol. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//tongue.gif

rs911, good shot at carrying the message. Wouldn't suprise me if someone here needed to hear it.

Another FOBW.

Phil McCrackin
08-17-2005, 02:40 PM
I think those ambulance chasers should sue God for making us addicted to U.V. rays and then providing us with the Sun to get our fix.......But I'm not sure if God is allowed in a government funded building? If he is not allowed in; would he be held in contempt of court for failing to appear???

Well, since I can't figure out the above paradox, I'll try to come up with a way we can tax the hell out of the suns rays, so all you "Sun Worshipers" , will stop that bad habit, like the smokers and drinkers.

Hmm, maybe I should run for Governor of Michigan.

Boomer
08-17-2005, 03:23 PM
Fobw?

Michael Az
08-17-2005, 07:22 PM
Speedy
That is truly amazing. I always wondered why I preferred to be out in the suns' warm rays rather than inside the house under the loungeroom incandescent lamp
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Now looky here Speedy, it all depends where you live. Here in Az when it is 115* out in the nice sun, I don't want to be in it!
Michael

bobbybeef
08-17-2005, 09:35 PM
I am with michael AZ on staying out of the sun.
Regular visits to the skin specialist to let chop affected chunks out is message enough for me.
as to the addiction question. I smoked for a long time but when I was 43 a really good friend died from an anurism. I wanted to remember him and a book prize at the local university where he gave occasional lectures didnt seem to be enough. So I, a 3 pack a day man, gave up smoking. Each time I wanted a smoke,and it was often,I remembered my mate. It still works for me some thirty years later. The extra years of life that I enjoy I put down to giving up.
Regards to all,
Bobbybeef.

rsr911
08-18-2005, 12:12 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Boomer:
Fobw?</font>




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speedy
08-18-2005, 12:16 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Michael Az:
Now looky here Speedy, it all depends where you live. Here in Az when it is 115* out in the nice sun, I don't want to be in it!
Michael[/B]</font>

Too right Michael! notice I said "warm, sunny" and not stinking hot http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif That is one of the reasons that I never stayed on in Oz when I was younger; it is just too damn hot.
When I was a young begger we all used to stay out in the full heat of the sun at the beach or park and burn,peel, burn ,you know the story. Well we had no idea of the possible consequences did we? Now, I sometimes wonder if a filthy skin cancer will get me before natural death. I do not have any faith in sun creams either, I cover up with clothing and try to stay out of the midday sun.
Good for you Bobbybeef! I was a 2 pack a day man in my 20`s when I managed to throw it away after many attempts; one of the best things I ever did! I can honestly say I have never wished for a ciggy in the past 15 years http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif
Ken

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CCWKen
08-18-2005, 12:42 AM
Hey Christian, In what part of Akron do you live? I used to live in the Weathervane Appts. down in the valley. Used to ride a bike up the canal path to Cleveland and back. I still have some relatives up there--Near Chapel Hill Mall. I miss the Spring and Summers up there. I don't feel any loss for Winters though. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

rsr911
08-18-2005, 01:23 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CCWKen:
Hey Christian, In what part of Akron do you live? I used to live in the Weathervane Appts. down in the valley. Used to ride a bike up the canal path to Cleveland and back. I still have some relatives up there--Near Chapel Hill Mall. I miss the Spring and Summers up there. I don't feel any loss for Winters though. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif</font>

Currently I live in Kenmore but I'm building a home on 7 acres in Bath township. I lived in the valley for awhile as well, Parkway Estates behind the McDonald's before it became "poverty estates". I really dislike Kenmore but it's allowed me to save the money to build a home I could not afford otherwise.



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-Christian D. Sokolowski

Norman Atkinson
08-18-2005, 05:37 AM
I live in Spain- for several weeks in the year. Just come back from Menorca- and the British lining the edges of hired swimming pools with Factor 1000 sun cream.

Almost everyone that I know who has reached that three score years and ten- and has failed to avoid the sun, has skin cancers.

Once, on a trip to Southern France- San Tropez and Brigite Bardot and blowing up and exploding paper bags to surprise those with bikini tops- carefully arranged and not fastened. Memories, memories!
I digressed- wow!!
Anyway, there was a guy who worked in the Burmese Embassy in London- and he peeled in the sun.

It seems a pity that all this money spent on foreign holidays is not passed to the British hospitals to fund removal of cancerous skin growths.

Rant, Rant

Norman

rsr911
08-18-2005, 10:00 AM
Back on topic, I heard recently that skin cancer is the most deadly cancer in the US. I thought it was lung cancer and was surprised to learn this.

I have a patent through the company I work for for a adhesive patch that indicates when one has reached the maximum safe level of exposure to the damaging UV rays of the sun. The product is currently available in most Wal Mart stores under the brand name Sun Sensors from Sun Health Solutions who contracts with my company.

We started work on this project because our chief chemist and founder of the company now 77 years old nearly died from skin cancer in his 20's. He grew up on a farm and spent many days out in the fields on a tractor. To remove his cancer they had to remove large portions of his neck and shoulder. Addiction or not, sun overexposure is very deadly.

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-Christian D. Sokolowski

Swarf&Sparks
08-18-2005, 11:39 AM
Don't wanna add to the doom and gloom, but a cautionary tale......
I live in Oz, where the dangers of sun are well documented and publicized. The cautionary tale was told by my TIG welding instructor, a pom. A guy with whom he worked (in England) always refused to button up the top of his overalls. Usually ended up with a red triangle on his chest/neck. One day, the burn didn't clear up as usual. The guy went to see his GP, who didn't recognize the melanoma. They don't get to see too many of em in northern UK. The guy died of UV exposure, nowhere near the sun http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif
Rgds, Lin

wierdscience
08-18-2005, 10:33 PM
Skin cancer is sneeky,friend of mine got a sore on the bottom of his foot,after a couple weeks it went away.A couple months later it started to itch and burn real bad so he finally went to the doctor.Yup melenoma,but not from sun exposure.

It pays to every couple years get checked out,or at least get the significant other to look for the obvious.

Alistair Hosie
08-19-2005, 05:17 PM
I have developed a lump on one of my testicles fortunately I have a son who is a doctor and he made me go immediately to hospital for a check up I have had it now and it's become bigger for about five years forunately it's not a tumor and is an epididimal cyst quite common but hey guys have a little feel as often as possible,you never know serious point. Alistair