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IOWOLF
08-19-2005, 05:58 PM
I have just found out that I am banned from the Metal Madness site, that is adrians/3phase lightbulbs site. I have never done any thing wrong on that site, just lurked for the most part.

Afraid of what I might say over there adrian?
Lets see what little smiley face you can come up with on this one.On second thought dont reply to this thread.
You Chicken $hit SOB.

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-19-2005, 06:10 PM
Metal Madness.. Now that's a damn good name that nobody came up with. DAMN! someone already owns www.metalmadness.com (http://www.metalmadness.com) - Oh well.

Well, my site is http://www.metalillness.com. And sorry, it's only for people 18 years of age or older.

IOWOLF
08-19-2005, 06:13 PM
What ever, does that mean you admit it?
I am older than you,Punk.

Alistair Hosie
08-19-2005, 06:37 PM
Iowolf there are a group of people (thank god small in number) including yourself who seem to spoil everything they come across.This site was always over many years very warm and a welcoming place were people discussed things without the neccesity to use foul, threatening, childish, language and be totally repulsive to everyone who does not see the world as you do.I and I suspect many more wish we could go back to those days.Is it really any wonder why you are not welcome perhaps the managers of the site want it to be a nice place for people to come to.Read your own posts and see perhaps why you are not welcome.Alistair

IOWOLF
08-19-2005, 06:41 PM
Thank you Mr. perfect any one else want a go at me? Open forum ... Lets Bash IOWOLF.He is the one with a sence of humor.

One at a time please , get in line, don't push.

mochinist
08-19-2005, 06:54 PM
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9248/iowolf4lp.jpg

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-19-2005, 07:02 PM
Damit, now I have Gatorade all over my laptop. http://www.bbssystem.com/images/smiles/eusa_doh.gif

IOWOLF
08-19-2005, 07:04 PM
Learn to drink like a man,Punk.

Wirecutter
08-19-2005, 07:16 PM
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[This message has been edited by Wirecutter (edited 08-20-2005).]

IOWOLF
08-19-2005, 07:19 PM
Messed up again, huh.Wasn't worth seeing any way.

CCWKen
08-19-2005, 07:25 PM
We're gonna have to put you two in the corner for some quiet time.

I'm not even registered over there. What am I missing? I get poked in the eye more than enough here. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

dvideo
08-19-2005, 07:33 PM
io....

Have you considered doing your own site? I would like to see what you come up with.. A diversity of views is a good thing & having opinions don't cost more...

No one is here to find out what they already know. I have learned a lot & appreciate the different approaches. My kids will tell you that no one is interested in "same 'ole, same 'ole". You might give it a shot....

--jr

BillH
08-19-2005, 07:40 PM
IOwolf, join the club, I've been banned from gunsnet, and a few others, and may I add, the bannings had to do with the online chats, not the forums. I just dont like little ego maniac runts with hitler complexes(goderators) and they want me to kiss their ass in chat and I tell em where to go knowing full well that I just got myself banned.
I love this forum, there are no goderators, and nearly everyone is a good down to earth kind person. And not only that, this boards average IQ seams twice as high as all the others.

BillH
08-19-2005, 07:46 PM
May I further add IOWOLF, your behavior answers your own question.

dvideo
08-19-2005, 07:46 PM
If we weren't reasonably smart and careful, none of us would have fingers left to type messages with on this board....

--jr

torker
08-19-2005, 07:59 PM
WOLF...seems you're popular EVERYWHERE...check this out...
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013826

tattoomike68
08-19-2005, 08:20 PM
IOWOLF is a troll in training still, give him a break.

realy, I think IOWOLF is cool, he just comes across as friendly as a WOLF, the name fits.

hoffman
08-19-2005, 08:27 PM
Boy, Looks like I've missed some stuff while away...
http://images.andale.com/f2/129/111/8188590/1040877623061_car.jpg

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Deep Sea Tool Salvage

torker
08-19-2005, 08:33 PM
hoffman...Welcome back from the deep! You're just in time for a....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/torker/1b8c1d0f.gif

JRouche
08-19-2005, 10:26 PM
" Topic: Ok who is the Child here? "

You gotta be ****tin me?

You sound like the little kid on the playground who got in a fuss with another kid.

Now you take yer ball over to another group of kids and start talkin crap about that other kid.

Gimme a friggin break !

JRouche

wierdscience
08-19-2005, 10:31 PM
Whaaaaa......Whaaaaaaa.....Whaaaaaa....do you want a Whambulance? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

spope14
08-19-2005, 10:40 PM
Hey Neil, lock this thread

speedy
08-19-2005, 11:42 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
Thank you Mr. perfect any one else want a go at me? Open forum ... Lets Bash IOWOLF.He is the one with a sence of humor.
One at a time please , get in line, don't push.</font>

Of course Alistair must be perfect, he has an inflatable sheep, hasn`t he. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif for all that he is a good bloke http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

I`m not perfect, far from it http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif And I`m pleased to hear that you have a sense of humour so here goes...testing 1.2.3
have you tried www.mentalillness.info/index.php (http://www.mentalillness.info/index.php) http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif
Ken

[This message has been edited by speedy (edited 08-20-2005).]

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-19-2005, 11:45 PM
I think he's banned there too http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

L Webb
08-19-2005, 11:53 PM
It is funny to see a troll whine when they feel they've been abused. They love to dish it out but sure can't take it. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//tongue.gif

Les

Frank Ford
08-20-2005, 01:42 AM
When you resort to name calling, about all you do is reveal and diminish yourself. Sorry, but that's REALLY the way it works. You also send a message that you're not listening, but only talking. That's why nobody takes it seriously, and nobody ever will. Likewise, if you say things like "I'm only being reasonable," or "I'm the one with the sense of humor," you have no credibiity. Those with a sense of humor are easily recognized, as are reasonable people.

SJorgensen
08-20-2005, 05:18 AM
IOWolf, you detract from the civility that we have enjoyed here for several years.

Please tone it down.

I do like an active debate. I don't like ad-homonym attacks. It does not make up for a weak argument.

Take a break and come back when you want to ask a question or contribute to a topic. Please don't bring anger or diatribe here. I don't care for it. It is what ruins so many other sites. Your style of flaming is exactly what we don't want here.

If I were asked tomorrow to vote about your membership here I would have to say "nay." I hope that I don't always feel this way.

You might have more to offer on technical issues but you haven't shown much on social. I don't care much for your style. I'm sure there are those out there ready to object to mine.

Good luck to us both.

pete913
08-20-2005, 06:51 AM
Mommmmmmmm,they're pickin on meeeeeeeee.

John Stevenson
08-20-2005, 06:56 AM
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[This message has been edited by John Stevenson (edited 08-21-2005).]

IOWOLF
08-20-2005, 07:36 AM
Glad to hear all your opinions of me.

I have not "Taken my ball elswhere".

This is only between myself and one other, and what has he contributed other than butting in on topics with the sole intent to annoy and disrupt the board.

I am not whineing, I just wanted to point out a childish act.

Keep going ,I am sure everyone hasn't had a chance to say what they really feel.

Norman Atkinson
08-20-2005, 07:50 AM
Ho! Ho!

We have the answer

Iowolf has only one ball.

Sorry- gotcha!!!!!


Norman

IOWOLF
08-20-2005, 07:54 AM
Now that was good. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

pgmrdan
08-20-2005, 08:00 AM
Alistair said,"there are a group of people (thank god small in number) ... who seem to spoil everything they come across.This site was always over many years very warm and a welcoming place were people discussed things"

Alistair, you're right! (I hope I'm not considered to be part of this group because I blow off steam once or twice a year. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif)

I mentioned something of this around a year or so ago and, of course, I got blasted by some in the group you're talking about. The group takes all the fun out of being here. And since it is a hobby for me, if it's not fun why bother. I suspect there are others that feel this way.

Back when I talked about this some mentioned that when things get stupid here they take time off from visiting the board. I've noticed that some of the really enjoyable people on this board don't seem to frequent the board as often as they used to and some are never here. Maybe they've gone into 'lurker' status or maybe they've just left completely.

But yes, much of the time it's not nearly as much fun here as it used to be.

[This message has been edited by pgmrdan (edited 08-20-2005).]

torker
08-20-2005, 08:09 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
and what has he contributed other than butting in on topics with the sole intent to annoy and disrupt the board.

</font>
You gotta be ****tin all of us now....the above is exactly what YOU do here. Adrian has posted a lot of interesting stuff and is pretty darn sharp with computer problems also. His postings have a humour to them that yours don't. You seem to be a cranky ol' fart with a very dry, abrasive sense of humour that only you understand. I also have a dry (perhaps weird) sense of humour and have to be carefull what I post at the risk of pissing people off that don't get my drift.
You've never done anything to me but geez...there are three(?) BBS sites that you aren't too popular at. You may want to think about that.
You aren't related to Green Willy are you?

torker
08-20-2005, 08:21 AM
Hey Dan...don't take it to heart bud....posters come and they go. Believe me...this is a good place. I hang out on a 4 wheel board that is just brutal. Check this out if you want to see flames.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/welcome1.php
Anything that goes on here is VERY tame compared to "The Pirate"
To try it out...register, then go into General Chat and post a question like "What size of tires can I run on a 1999 XJ with no lift"
You won't believe the nasty crap that'll get thrown at you. You'd never get that here.

J Tiers
08-20-2005, 08:22 AM
I wasted a few minutes looking up the postings you (Jay / aka IOWOLF) made.

Back in 2003 and before; mostly on topic responses....

sometime in 2004, you started with more of the not-so-helpful stuff. I got bored and didn't go any further.....but I'd bet they have become 2/3 to 3/4 "not very helpful" this year. That's the trend.

Seeing a pattern here? We have.

I noticed also that a number of folks who used to post, have vanished. Some have gone elsewhere, a couple may have passed.

I have to think that the quantity of OT squabbling, combined with a certain amount of "Smithing out" has something to do with the folks vanishing...and that is NOT a positive.

Somehow the folks with the consistent OT squabbles have mostly NOT vanished..... hmmmmm. Checked a mirror?

Your thread headline question, BTW, you answered yourself.....

Your Old Dog
08-20-2005, 08:25 AM
I've mentioned this once before and for this very reason. Some people on this board give you strength, others suck the life, fun and confidance right out of you.

It's your choice which tact you choose to take. Don't get upset if folks don't want to labor thru post that "kid on the square". That type of behavior is better left to those who want to constantly be the center of attention.

Frank Ford
08-20-2005, 10:07 AM
That's right. I for one, have quit reading or participating in a fair number of forums because they degenerated into arenas for political rants by the uninformed or platforms for the uninspired to ramble on about nothing.

If I ran this forum, I'd drop any hot, seriously off topic threads without notice or discussion - they serve no purpose. I do moderate two forums and have done so on rare (thankfully) occasion. This thread would not have made it past the first day.

This kind of banter can be fun to write, but it's not all that much fun to read, and nobody here is going to be convinced to change an opinion about religion, pollitics, or evolution.

And, we surely don't need "adults" running around calling the rest of us a bunch of "poo-poo heads."

But, in spite of little OT glitches, I'll be danged if I haven't learned more about machining here than through just about any other source!

Norman Atkinson
08-20-2005, 11:44 AM
Confessing to a Classical Education, rather than one with an engineering background, a serious note must be sounded! Oh! Yes!

History hows that the greatest progress in any one subject is when a group of like minded people get together.

Shakespeare was only one of a what is described as a " Nest of Singing Birds" and the develoment of literature was rapid because each was vying with the other,
Again, history shows schools of art and so on.

Normally, this has been in close contact
(like me and Matron)She a big woman- Big, I said. Really BIG! Do you like them big in America?

Seriously, we are now on the Internet with one of the most rapid interchange of ideas and help for one another. Again, that is progress.

In the interchange of ideas there is bound to be fun and banter- and long may it continue. Have I benefitted from all of this? More importantly, can you say" Yes"

Now then- back to Matron.

Norman

pgmrdan
08-20-2005, 12:00 PM
torker said, "Hey Dan...don't take it to heart bud....posters come and they go."

I've been here almost 4 years and I'm still hanging in. There may be some who wish I wouldn't but too bad! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

IOWOLF
08-20-2005, 01:44 PM
What I am getting at is,3Ph Has emailed me with nasty emails Spamed me and I guess yesterday was the last straw . He had no reason to start this again.He chased one member off, he will not make me leave a good forum.

But I too have learned alot of machineing & welding stuff here, I hope some have learned from my postings. If not You werent reading.

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-20-2005, 02:00 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
What I am getting at is,3Ph Has emailed me with nasty emails Spamed me and I guess yesterday was the last straw . He had no reason to start this again.He chased one member off, he will not make me leave a good forum.

But I too have learned alot of machineing & welding stuff here, I hope some have learned from my postings. If not You werent reading.</font>

I have never emailed you or even talked to you outside of this forum. Please post the emails that you think I sent you.

IOWOLF
08-20-2005, 02:02 PM
Oh yea, Like I save spam or emails from you.Ha same thing.

tattoomike68
08-20-2005, 02:03 PM
(((What I am getting at is,3Ph Has emailed me with nasty emails Spamed me and I guess yesterday was the last straw )))

An e mail telling you to "kiss off" is one thing but,I realy dont think you were spammed by adrian.

how about you go out to your shop and make something, take pictures and show it off to us and get back on topic OK?

good luck IOWOLF,

mike.

jero100
08-20-2005, 02:43 PM
You must be a really lonely man.

John Stevenson
08-20-2005, 02:51 PM
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[This message has been edited by John Stevenson (edited 08-21-2005).]

mochinist
08-20-2005, 06:01 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
What I am getting at is that I am a crazy old fart that is really grumpy because of my penile disfunction. In reality I am just jealous of 3ph because he has obviously done well for himself.

But I too have learned alot of machineing & welding stuff here, I hope some have learned from my postings, but I wouldn't be surpised if some of you were literally stupider from reading some of the stuff I have posted. If not You werent reading.

P.S I am gay for Adrian
</font>

Wow tell us how you really feel

John Stevenson
08-20-2005, 06:14 PM
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[This message has been edited by John Stevenson (edited 08-21-2005).]

IOWOLF
08-20-2005, 06:56 PM
Now you guys are showing how childish YOU are.

Mo, you are correct I am jealous,I want a wife that looks like a 12 year old.And all the toys.

mochinist
08-20-2005, 07:30 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
Now you guys are showing how childish YOU are.

Mo, you are correct I am jealous,I want a wife that looks like a 12 year old.And all the toys.</font>

Damn and your a pedophile too?

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-20-2005, 07:49 PM
http://www.bbssystem.com/6TH-IOWOLF.JPG

spope14
08-20-2005, 08:01 PM
I had forgotten how "fun" it is to watch a train wreck in progress.......

Come on Neil, lock the thread

speedy
08-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Getting way too messy here http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif. There is enough ****e in this life without adding more.
Ken ( not laughing at the antics anymore)

Frank Ford
08-20-2005, 09:31 PM
True enough. This thread has grown substantially - from "poo-poo head" to "big poo-poo head." No telling where it might lead.

Strike that - we all know where it started and where it will end. . .

BillH
08-20-2005, 10:19 PM
IOwolf, I think I found some one for you.
http://home.comcast.net/~billh308/IOwolfBuddy.jpg

Tinker2
08-20-2005, 10:27 PM
So why is it we read this? And why an I posting this?

wierdscience
08-21-2005, 12:03 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tinker2:
So why is it we read this? And why an I posting this? </font>

Because like me you have #1 morbid curiosity and #2 nothing better to do since it's hot as hell outside.That's my theory.

IKICK IOWOLFASS
08-21-2005, 12:15 AM
Iowolf WHY don't you just fade out and leave the area? You are not wanted here any more! Want to get nasty? Just keep it up! You are not going to win this! Go make some one else miserable.

hoffman
08-21-2005, 12:31 AM
I've been gone for awhile and this is what I come home to...

If I were a newcomer I'd swear that this board was populated by 13 year olds and go find some grown folks to talk to.

Please make this go away...

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Deep Sea Tool Salvage

BillH
08-21-2005, 12:34 AM
In my defense, im 25, given the average age in here, I guess im still a kid.

Evan
08-21-2005, 03:55 AM
Adrian is young guy with a lot of money and not a lot of maturity. He is sharp. I was even sharper before I lost a bunch of brain cells as I grew older. IoWolf I don't have a good read on, other than that when he resorts to personal attacks he has lost the argument.

If you review my posts you will notice that I NEVER resort to personal attacks in a discussion.

There is nothing anyone can do to make me lose my cool.

When I joined this board a couple of years ago I was impressed by the quality and lack of flames. It has gone downhill since then.

I miss the board the way it was.

Adrian, you are **** disturber. You seem to revel in it. I used to like to do that when I was a child as well. I think that in a couple of decades when you mature you will be a valuable member of a BBS like this.

The Doctor
08-21-2005, 04:44 AM
Evan, I don't see your problem with Adrian. I will admit, sometimes is humor may exceed the bounds of good taste, but I have found him personally helpful on one or two occasions and I think he is overall a positive asset to this board. IOWOLF, I don't know what the deal there is either, but he seems to be nothing but a troll lately. I agree with a previous poster that speaks of the fact that he used to be a good guy, but lately every time I see him making a post is it a negative way. In fact, I would say that most of the degradation we have seen on this board is coming from him.

What do we do about this? Well, I can't see talking about it doing a whole lot. What needs to happen is that Neil needs to decide to rapidly lock a topic as soon as it starts getting nasty, at least when that topic is not machine related. I think if that policy did not clear up the problem, the next step would be to suspend anybody who shows himself to be a continuous troublemaker. Perhaps a week for the first time, a month for the second, and permanently for the third. It's funny, bad behavior seems to be readily tolerated on all of these boards which are fully accessible by the public. I also frequent a couple board that you would consider to be underground, and I can tell you things are different there. People whose only reason to post is to start a flame war usually disappear from those boards very quickly, and usually with not a whole lot of comment about it.

Of course there is another factor at work here, and that is that everybody seems happy to jump in on the argument. A troll which is not fed quickly dies, and then the problem is solved.

Ed

Evan
08-21-2005, 05:18 AM
Doctor,

I don't have a problem with Adrian. He is a smart lad. He will be an asset to a BBS like this when he grows up.

Joel
08-21-2005, 05:54 AM
Just a guess here, but Neil is a magazine editor by occupation, and a moderator only by default. Surely he has better things to do than devote a lot of time to breaking up the kids when they fight at recess.

Historically, this has been a site full of intelligent and courteous people with many common interests who, despite widely varying backgrounds, managed to regulate themselves. It rarely required moderation of any significance. Maybe it can stay that way if everyone tries a little harder to play nice.

IOWOLF
08-21-2005, 07:09 AM
OK You guys win,Fron now on I will not post to a thread unless I feel it us usefull to the topic,and if I stray from this promise please remind me of this thread,NOT that I will forget it soon.
Thanx for opening my eyes,I hope this is a lesson for all of us.


Others ought to do the same.

Neil LOCK this thread.
This thread is closed. post no more to it, If you do you are no better than me.

[This message has been edited by IOWOLF (edited 08-21-2005).]

torker
08-21-2005, 07:35 AM
Sorry guys but I don't agree that the site has slid down hill. This is but one post. Look at the list..there is good info posted here many times a day. I asked a question yesterday and had many quick responses.
Let's not forget...Neil is the moderator but for the most part he stays out of it and the whole bunch here actually moderates the board. I think it works well but there will be differing opinions of anything.
As for Adrian....you have to admit, he has toned it down a lot. I remember one thread he kept butting into....it kinda pissed me off at first but I reread the whole thing and saw the humour. Then I found that him and I had a few things in common (RC planes and HP) I for one like his youthful enthusiasum.
And WOLF...I'm thinking perhaps he is the HSM version of Dave (ok...Don) Thomas from the PM board. Not a lot of difference
Some of this is not unlike the "RAS vs DT" or "Donie vs Everyone" wars on the PM site.
Geez...some of you take this place far too seriously. It can be as fun as you want to make it. If it's a crap post...don't read it or post in it.
And if you want to guage a person... just watch...if he/she pisses off Alistair then they are most likely a jerk! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Russ

torker
08-21-2005, 07:44 AM
WOLF...we must have posted at the same time.
Damn straight of you to make that decision!
And for what it's worth...My family tells me that I'm turning into a cranky ol' fart too http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Russ

Milacron of PM
08-21-2005, 08:00 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">And WOLF...I'm thinking perhaps he is the HSM version of Dave (ok...Don) Thomas from the PM board. Not a lot of difference</font>

torker, I've been well aware of this thread stayed out of it, but I consider the above statement the most serious insult to me I've ever read anywhere and find it difficult to just let it be. I've got over 10,000 posts on the Practical Machinist board of which probably 9,700 of which are me strictly giving or asking advice on various subjects. The latest of which is here-

www.practicalmachinist.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013850 (http://www.practicalmachinist.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013850)

But besides the sheer volume of advise and expertise I've offered over the years, the glaring difference is Wolf just blurts out an opinon usually without explaination. If I rattle someone's cage, I at least go to the trouble to explain often in great detail the WHY I've offered that opinion. That way the other readers can make up their mind whether I know what I'm talking about or not.

If after further consideration you still see "no difference" in Wolf and me on the two forums, you have the logic capabilities of a 14 year old girl at the mall.

Your Old Dog
08-21-2005, 08:12 AM
Adrian has a problem alright. He ain't no choir boy. He seems to be incapable of letting someone repeatedly slap him upside the head with a gauntlet and then throw it down in front of him and stand in defiance. You oughta to work on that adrian.

Neil, please understand I am not in charge of myself. I just have to click on this thread to see where it's heading. For pete's (should that be plural or possesive?) sake please slam this thread shut and lock it up before some of our heads explode. I got three wraps of duck tape around my head now but didn't start with a full roll. I'm running out. I only wish I were man enough to not click on this thread. You're in charge Neil, so I beseech you, please save us all from this maddness. If you do exercise parental control and lock it up, can I have the last word !! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

There you go guys, maybe he'll get the message now and I'll have gotten the last word http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Won't that make me special?

"this too will pass."

[This message has been edited by Your Old Dog (edited 08-21-2005).]

Milacron of PM
08-21-2005, 08:41 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">If you review my posts you will notice that I NEVER resort to personal attacks in a discussion.</font>


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Doctor,
I don't have a problem with Adrian. He is a smart lad. He will be an asset to a BBS like this when he grows up. </font>

Implying that someone beyond age 22 or so is immature is pretty insulting actually...a "personal attack", if you will. You just do it in a less blatent manner, that's all. I've seen similar from you many times in the past Evan...a bit more self awareness is suggested.

Not to imply that I'm any less prone to insult or personal attack...but at least I admit it. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

J Tiers
08-21-2005, 09:29 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by D. Thomas:


If after further consideration you still see "no difference" in Wolf and me on the two forums, you have the logic capabilities of a 14 year old girl at the mall. </font>

Don.... watch out....

I know of at least one 14 year old girl who would be otherwise indistinguishable from most any other, who is also quite capable of beating almost anyone at chess... if she continues to play, she will be at least "expert" rated, quite possibly higher....


Maybe if changed to "while at the mall giggling with friends" you would have nailed it though..... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Milacron of PM
08-21-2005, 10:02 AM
Yeah I know J...exceptions to everything...my 16 year old son's girlfriend is only 14 but sharp as a tack, and more articulate than he is !

But in general, 14 year olds..both boys and girls...but especially girls....are all emotion and don't see much beyond the shiney surface of things.

lynnl
08-21-2005, 10:21 AM
At the risk of practicing what I'm preaching against, let me suggest that instead of petitioning Neil to take some sort of lockdown action in these verbal altercations, the more level-headed among us might accomplish more by simply ignoring such cat fights.

I agree with Joel, Neil has better things to do than babysit and try to maintain law and order here on this BB. Village Press is a business, and as others have often observed, it's damned nice of them to provide us this forum. We shouldn't burden them with policing us.

I know it's difficult to bite our tongues and withhold comments when reading some of the inflamatory remarks. I certainly step into that pile of sh.. 'uh manure myself sometimes.

Oh well, that's my view anyway.

madman
08-21-2005, 10:39 AM
Direct link with dementia and mercury inhallation. Its obvious here.

tattoomike68
08-21-2005, 10:41 AM
What I find funny is the start of the thread ,IOWOLF is banned from www.metalillness.com (http://www.metalillness.com) and calls adrian a Chicken $hit SOB and a punk.

over the next 24 hours www.metalillness.com (http://www.metalillness.com) gains a bunch of new members and Most users ever online all thanks to IOWOLF.

C. Tate
08-21-2005, 11:13 AM
I am ashamed of myself for aiding the continuation of this nonsense. However; I must point out that 75 responses to this thread only serve to foster this type of childish behavior. If the membership as a whole wish to have this person banned than email Neil and petition him to do so. Now, end this discussion and move on to making chips.

CT

Rustybolt
08-21-2005, 11:57 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tattoomike68:
What I find funny is the start of the thread ,IOWOLF is banned from www.metalillness.com (http://www.metalillness.com) and calls adrian a Chicken $hit SOB and a punk.

over the next 24 hours www.metalillness.com (http://www.metalillness.com) gains a bunch of new members and Most users ever online all thanks to IOWOLF.

</font>


I thinks it's a lack of good machining sites period.

I don't know about the arguement between Adrian and Jay, but I've met Jay(Iowolf). I've been to his shop. He's a no BS kind of person who's not afraid to tell you what he thinks. Some people might find that offensive. I don't.
I've enjoyed what both of them bring to this board. It's a shame it has to come to this.

Milacron of PM
08-21-2005, 12:58 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I thinks it's a lack of good machining sites period.</font>

Interesting statement. What, to you, would a "good" machining site be like...i.e. what are the current ones "missing" ?

JRouche
08-21-2005, 03:55 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by D. Thomas:
[Interesting statement. What, to you, would a "good" machining site be like...</font>


This one is "ok", kinda. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

http://www.practicalmachinist.com

JRouche

torker
08-21-2005, 03:57 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by D. Thomas:
torker, I've been well aware of this thread stayed out of it, but I consider the above statement the most serious insult to me I've ever read anywhere and find it difficult to just let it be. </font>
DT... Jeezus...bring out the violins. You're breaking my heart.
My point...on your board (and here) you are very quick to initiate personal attacks.
Wolf WAS doing the same thing here.
I bet he won't be so quick to do that anymore. I seriously doubt if you'd ever quit that BS.
9700 posts out of 10,000...all advice or questions? I really doubt that.
As for your 14 year old girl comment...I rest my case.

IOWOLF
08-21-2005, 04:27 PM
Hey ,This is a pick on IOWOLF thread, I am fair game, no one else,I should just let it be, but I started this thread and I wish it would die.
Now stop posting to it.

Oh and thanks to you guys who stood up for me and thanx to the ones who did but didn't want to do it here.
I can now say one thing,I am not the only unpopular one here,Enough said.

charlie coghill
08-21-2005, 06:10 PM
ROFLMAO

Rustybolt
08-21-2005, 06:35 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by D. Thomas:

I thinks it's a lack of good machining sites period.</font>

Interesting statement. What, to you, would a "good" machining site be like...i.e. what are the current ones "missing" ?

When you consider that there's a site for just about every firearm made, there's damn few machining sites for just general machining knowledge.

"missing" from what I've seen , participation.

Milacron of PM
08-21-2005, 06:37 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">As for your 14 year old girl comment...I rest my case.</font>

"I rest my case"...a meaningless response that reminds me other responses to critism where the poster doesn't know what to say, so he says something like "my point exactly" when in fact this is not even remotely the case.

So, you don't retract any of it and now you're pegged. What color lip gloss will you be buying at the mall next trip ? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

torker
08-21-2005, 07:49 PM
"Dave" (DT) You're a pretty funny guy but I liked you better when you where still doing commercials for Wendy's http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-21-2005, 07:58 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:
Adrian is young guy with a lot of money and not a lot of maturity. He is sharp. I was even sharper before I lost a bunch of brain cells as I grew older. </font>

Evan is an old guy. Apparently he is getting duller by the day due to degenerative brain cell loss. http://bbssystem.com/images/smiles/newsmile_sleepy3.gif


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:
If you review my posts you will notice that I NEVER resort to personal attacks in a discussion.

There is nothing anyone can do to make me lose my cool. </font>

You can't loose something that you don't have.


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:

When I joined this board a couple of years ago I was impressed by the quality and lack of flames. It has gone downhill since then.

I miss the board the way it was. </font>

I think you miss not having to stand behind your incorrect or false statements.


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:

Adrian, you are **** disturber. You seem to revel in it. I used to like to do that when I was a child as well. </font>

Evan, I like to expose some of the **** that you try to feed people.


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:

I think that in a couple of decades when you mature you will be a valuable member of a BBS like this. </font>

If you're suggesting that in a couple of decades, I'll be on par with the "value" that you provide, then I'm going to have to start loosing brain cells at an alarming rate starting now.

-Adrian

BillH
08-21-2005, 08:24 PM
Hey Adrian, why not use your superior mental capacity for using more tack, and less name calling? One can only wonder what you say about other people, you know, ever think about how that makes you look?

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-21-2005, 08:33 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BillH:
Hey Adrian, why not use your superior mental capacity for using more tack, and less name calling? One can only wonder what you say about other people, you know, ever think about how that makes you look? </font>

If I used "tack", I'd probably hurt people. And I do hold back. I use plenty of tact and have enormous amounts of respect for respectful people. I hardly find Evan's comments respectful.

-Adrian

BillH
08-21-2005, 08:44 PM
Thats true, there is negativity all around.
So Adrian, have you ever used WinAvr for programming Atmel chips? You posted a link to a GNU compiler before.

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-21-2005, 08:53 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BillH:
Thats true, there is negativity all around.
So Adrian, have you ever used WinAvr for programming Atmel chips? You posted a link to a GNU compiler before. </font>

I've never used WinAvr. I sell my own set of C/C++ compilers/Assemblers that I've built for 32 different target CPUs including AVR.

These are the AVR targets I support:

avr1, avr2, avr3, avr4, avr5, at90s1200, attiny10, attiny11, attiny12, attiny15, attiny28, at90s2313, at90s2323, at90s2333, at90s2343, attiny22, attiny26, at90s4433, at90s4414, at90s4434, at90s8515, at90s8535, at90c8534, at86rf401, atmega603, atmega103, at43usb320,at43usb355,at76c711, atmega8, atmega83, atmega85, atmega8515,atmega8535,atmega16, atmega161, atmega162, atmega163, atmega169, atmega32, atmega323, atmega64, atmega128, at94k.

http://www.gnuxtools.com/targets.html

I've ported all 32 cross development toolsuites to Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris.

-Adrian

BillH
08-21-2005, 08:55 PM
I had a good feeling thats how you made a living. Hmm, no mega48, but got the mega169.

[This message has been edited by BillH (edited 08-21-2005).]

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-21-2005, 08:58 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BillH:
I had a good feeling thats how you made a living.</font>

No, I sell PsychoKart's without brakes, and sticky throttle cables http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-21-2005, 09:09 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BillH:
I had a good feeling thats how you made a living. Hmm, no mega48, but got the mega169.

[This message has been edited by BillH (edited 08-21-2005).]</font>


The mega48 is covered by the atmega8 core/instruction generator. The only difference between the mega48, mega88, and mega168 are number of address bits, the IRQ vector table size, and some other differences that don't need a different compiler. If you want to compile code for mega48, mega88 or mega168, you would just use the atmega8 target.

-Adrian

ibewgypsie
08-21-2005, 10:29 PM
I bought to resale a Ninja with a built motor. When the young man and "mother" showed up to purchase it. He was a skateboarder, covered in road rash from skateboarding.

I looked his MOM right in the eyes and told her I'd give them the motorcycle if I could take out a insurance policy on him.

For some reason she didn't pull the money and buy it.

Kinda like a psycho-kart w a sticky cable and no brakes.. hmm.. What's the coroner going to do with that mess of hamburger.. It'd be easier just to start over with play-dough and a airbrush.

Back on this topic?
WHo's the child here.. Me, I ain't never gonna grow up. My 2nd ex looked at me one day and said.. "you ain't never going to change" I looked back and her and said.."but you sure did and I divorced you", She left angry.

Evan
08-21-2005, 11:34 PM
DT said:

"Implying that someone beyond age 22 or so is immature is pretty insulting actually...a "personal attack", if you will. "

An attack? Truth hurts sometimes.

mattc
08-22-2005, 04:49 AM
well Adrian is one of my best friends we have a lot incommon, I have gained a lot of valuable knolodge for him, and as for growing up I plan to get older not grow up


Matt in AK

IOWOLF
08-22-2005, 05:49 AM
I would pick a role model more carefully.

Sorry,But it had to be said.

Tinker2
08-22-2005, 07:33 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
I would pick a role model more carefully.
</font>

IOWOLF

Maybe they want to grow up to be a cartoon?

bspooh
08-22-2005, 07:43 AM
I think its a bunch of crap for someone to ban someone else just for fear of what they "might" do...

How do they ban someone? Do they know what IP address you have, or something else..could you go in as another username?

To me its still censorship, which sucks big time..

Good luck IOWOLF, maybe that website is not worth visiting...I don't know, I have never been there..

brent

chief
08-22-2005, 08:00 AM
This whole thread is pretty silly. I don't think you are missing much by being banned.
I looked over some posts and didn't see a lot of useful info. The funnel storage one has me wondering...If a person needs advice on operating and storeing a funnel maybe they should find another hobby.

mattc
08-22-2005, 08:01 AM
on the other hand if you build a web site,pay for the hosting and do all the work that goes with it, then invite people to come and share isn't that like opening your home or shop up to them? if someone came to my home and said hate full things to sturr up trouble I would probably ask them not to come back too

Matt in AK

3jaw
08-22-2005, 08:04 AM
Give it a rest, folks!!

Greg

[This message has been edited by 3jaw (edited 08-22-2005).]

mattc
08-22-2005, 08:05 AM
by the way Chief I dont recall anyone asking how to use a funnel, and havent you ever walked into a shop,seen something and thought "that is a neat idea". its all about an exchange of ideas to improve your shop even if it is in something so simple as a better way to store a funnel

Matt in AK

Mcgyver
08-22-2005, 08:29 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chief:
..If a person needs advice on operating and storeing a funnel maybe they should find another hobby.</font>

no disrespect intended for the site, but that line was funny http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

imakechips
08-22-2005, 09:06 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> Adrian, you are **** disturber. </font>


ROFLMAO!!!! Tears in my eyes!!!!!!

decoy91288
08-22-2005, 09:33 AM
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1123087263857_118496463/?hub=Canada

IOWOLF
08-22-2005, 11:25 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mattc:
on the other hand if you build a web site,pay for the hosting and do all the work that goes with it, then invite people to come and share isn't that like opening your home or shop up to them? if someone came to my home and said hate full things to sturr up trouble I would probably ask them not to come back too

Matt in AK

</font>

But I never did.Ever.