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shapeaholic
08-24-2005, 10:06 PM
Hello Folks!
Thanks to Adrian at the metalillness.com site, I have been able to post a video of my P&W planer in motion.
planer video (http://www.bbssystem.com/videos/pratt_whitney.wmv)

Watch out it's 96mb of enjoyment!

Cheers
Pete

alcova
08-24-2005, 10:20 PM
Mesmerizing isn't it.

Walt

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-24-2005, 10:43 PM
Pete,

You should consider also making a much smaller video so people on Dial up can see it.. You should make one that's very small (Like 1-2mb) and those that want to see more will then download the bigger one. Just a thought.

-Adrian

Forrest Addy
08-24-2005, 11:24 PM
I have a dial up modem. I down loaded for a week of subjective time and watched 7 seconds of it. Whatta cool machine. The spandy new belt sucks though. It needs some oil and blood on it like in old times.

webbch
08-25-2005, 12:03 AM
Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Great job with all the closeups of the mechanisms for those of us who've never used (or seen) a planer in action before.

I enjoyed the video immensely.

Chad

Anzaniste
08-25-2005, 03:34 AM
Wow!

The Doctor
08-25-2005, 04:45 AM
I can only say great video, and let you know that I am rather envious. It's quite a fine looking machine, and there are several times I could've used one just like it.

When you've got it 100% perfect and you are confident using it, please post another video of it making some serious bed springs http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif yes, that is something I would love to see. Got broadband here, so don't worry about the file size. That file downloaded in less time than it took me to mix a cup of instant coffee http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Ed

Your Old Dog
08-25-2005, 07:44 AM
Fantastic job on everyting! Very very interesting. Can't think of many forms of mechanical advantage that arent' represented in that video!

Thanks also to Adrian for helping out, it's appreciated.

Doc, with high speed cable it toom me 14 minutes to make a cup of instant http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Must be Time Warner RoadRunner service is slow this morning!

[This message has been edited by Your Old Dog (edited 08-25-2005).]

Mcgyver
08-25-2005, 07:46 AM
what a great looking machine - first time i've seen one runnng! thanks for making it available

rockrat
08-25-2005, 07:47 AM
shapeaholic, nice machine! Great video. Thanks for sharing. Man that thing would be fantastic to have in the shop. What a toy.
rock

G.A. Ewen
08-25-2005, 08:50 AM
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif All I get is a page of text that looks like a cross between Russion and Chiness. Maybe it is Klingon. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

No mater, Peter has promised to fire it up for me when I am in Sudbury next month http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//tongue.gif

ERBenoit
08-25-2005, 11:36 AM
Nice piece of machinery!

Not that you need me to tell you, be careful around the open belts/gearing. Particularly (if applicable) any children are around.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Forrest Addy:
The spandy new belt sucks though. It needs some oil and blood on it like in old times.

Not to get O/T, about 10 years ago the fire department I belong to was called out to an industrial accident. A local historian had a yarn making operation set up (which is no longer), in a section of a former textile mill, circa early 1900's. All of the machinery was set up and used exactly (ie. no guarding of open mechanisims)as it would have been in that era. A person operating a "carding machine" apparently got his shirt sleeve or arm caught in the open workings of the machine. Pretty significant injuries.

Furnace
08-25-2005, 04:29 PM
That machine is proof I was born in the wrong part of the last century. If I told my friends about that machine they just wouldnt understand how damn cool it is.

.RC.
08-25-2005, 06:26 PM
Nice vid, nice machine...I could find some work for it here..

...I wonder how long the slides were expected to last on it though with the constant back and forwards...I thought planers ran on rollers rather than normal V slides...

andy_b
08-25-2005, 10:31 PM
that was cool!!!!! i always loved planers, but haven't come across one the right size and price to pick up. they are even more mesmerizing than shapers.

Ringer,
you have to remember the bed ways are a rather large surface area. they almost float on the film of oil. also, since the bed is constantly moving back and forth, everything tends to wear at the same rates. so even if things wear a few thousandths, everything still stays level and aligned.

andy b.

chkz
08-25-2005, 11:16 PM
Great video Pete...I've never seen one of these things work before!!

thanks,

Chris

Wirecutter
08-26-2005, 11:53 AM
Big but very cool video. Neat how it's completely automatic and non-CNC. The only part of the mechanism I missed is how the belt is made to change direction, but I can figure out how that's done via the "shifting". Fascinating mechanisms.

It looks like something ibewgypsie would come up with over a weekend if he'd been born 100 years earlier.

aboard_epsilon
08-26-2005, 12:03 PM
why cant someone in the mid/northern/eastish uk get one of these magic machines ......then we could all get our milling machine tables planed. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Nice machine Pete.

all the best.mark

Doc Nickel
08-26-2005, 03:19 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The only part of the mechanism I missed is how the belt is made to change direction, but I can figure out how that's done via the "shifting". Fascinating mechanisms.</font>

-The belt doesn't change direction. That wide pulley that it slips back and forth on is actually two pulleys that counterrotate; when one is engaged by the belt, the gearing drives the table in one direction. When the belt moves over to the other pulley, the gearing drives the table in the other direction.

Great video. Makes me want a planer even though I don't have the room or the use for it. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Doc.

lynnl
08-26-2005, 03:46 PM
I agree. Truly fascinating to watch. Even more so than a shaper.

Yeah when the belt flips over you can see the pulleys are actually two separate ones. I had noticed the spokes appearing to stop, but didn't realize it was two til Doc's comment.

So beautifully simple! No bits and bytes and digital code to troubleshoot. I was born about 75 years too late.

What's the table size of that one?

Furnace
08-26-2005, 04:08 PM
Im so new to this home shop machining thing that I dont even know what all you can do on a planer. It makes me want to go down and work on the fly tying vise ive been machining for a dear friend but my bro-in-laws harley is in the damn way

3 Phase Lightbulb
08-26-2005, 05:11 PM
Does anyone have a video of a Shaper in action? It would be nice to make both available since I assume most of us don't have a shaper, and probably only one of us has a planer http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

-Adrian

tattoomike68
08-26-2005, 05:52 PM
we have a keyseater at work but not a horz. shaper.

I can get a video of a keyseater cutting a keyway.

rbjscott
08-26-2005, 05:57 PM
I am impressed with both the machine and the video.

aboard_epsilon
08-26-2005, 06:03 PM
tiny vid here at bottom of page Adrian

http://www.jamesriser.com/Sheldon/Shaper.html

all the best...mark

shapeaholic
08-26-2005, 06:30 PM
wirecutter etal:
The reversing mechanism uses a set of 3 pulleys all running on 2 coaxial shafts.
The fwd drive pulley is on the inside, and drives a set of 4 or 5 gears to run the table forward. The reverse set runs an extra gear to get the reverse. The 3rd pulley is in the center of the others and idles. This allows the belt and pulleys to catch up to each other (sts)

I'll post some pictures of the drive if there is any interest.

Pete

Wirecutter
08-26-2005, 07:45 PM
Yeah, I see it now. The entire thing is very cool - and great video. You got photos of all the "good stuff". I, for one, could watch a lot more stuff like that.

Also, aboard_epsilon, thanks for posting the link to the shaper. That machine is in fine condition, from the looks of it. Also quite interesting.

-M

Charlie Rose
08-27-2005, 02:47 AM
Well there are at least two of us that have planers mine is a little bit bigger but works the same, mine is 19" by 6' made by Powell. Ihave no idea how old it is ,it has one speed "slow" but it works just fine.I saw it years ago in the late 1960ies and wanted it then but the guy that had it was'nt done with it yet. Then in the early 90ies I saw an ad in our local paper about a machine shop for sale,I bought it from the old guys daughter as he was through with it,he had a neat shop every machine was flat belt ,his large lathe came around the Horn in a sailing ship then hauled to Carson City ,Ne.and used in the silver mines to repair the mining equipment.

SJorgensen
08-27-2005, 07:09 PM
That looks like a great tool to have and will work great for you and look great with a new paint job. My only question is, why after all these years of use without a table buggering mishap, you chose to dig a "big ugly" into the table? You could have easily bolted down some rough stock. The first thing I would have done put some marking blue on it and run the planer with a stone in it to find the high spots.

I can't see any good reason to cut into the table. Most of us buy machines with damage. Few of us get to see a video of how it happened or even find out who did it!

Thanks for showing it though. Nice demo video.

[This message has been edited by SJorgensen (edited 08-27-2005).]

zl1byz
08-27-2005, 09:47 PM
Yes Pete great movie, please do post some more pictures of the drive.

I have to go along with SJorgensen's question as to why you planned the table.

A while back someone posted a movie of their shaper running. It was good to watch you could hear and see the chips comming off and the smoke off them when they hit the pile at the end. I did a search but missed the mark. Anyone got it marked?

John.

andy_b
08-27-2005, 11:22 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by zl1byz:

A while back someone posted a movie of their shaper running. It was good to watch you could hear and see the chips comming off and the smoke off them when they hit the pile at the end. I did a search but missed the mark. Anyone got it marked?

John.</font>

John,

that was my shaper video. i pulled it from my ISP because it was 6 meg and i only have 15 meg of total storage. i've been doing some more cutting with the shaper and i think i can get a better video. i won't be around tomorrow, but i'll see what i can come up with monday or tuesday. i was getting some big 1/8" thick blue snails flying off of it last week. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif


andy b.