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webbch
09-02-2005, 06:49 PM
I've finally completed the teardown and cleanup of my Ramco bandsaw, given to me by my father-in-law (in Oregon) and delivered by a good friend who happened to be driving from Oregon to Arizona with his truck and was gracious enough to deliver the saw to me (going about 200 miles out of his way to pick up the saw from my father in law)

Here's the saw in as-delivered condition. Not bad, but could use a little cleanup
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/webbch/Machine%20Tools/RAMCO_RS90P_Initial.jpg

The next Two I'm dissassembling it into pieces

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/webbch/Machine%20Tools/Disassembly01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/webbch/Machine%20Tools/Disassembly02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/webbch/Machine%20Tools/Disassembly04.jpg

Here I've stripped off all the paint and applied some of that Jasco metal prep before painting (Note to self: apply Jasco SPARINGLY in the future -- it dries sticky)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/webbch/Machine%20Tools/Painting01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/webbch/Machine%20Tools/Painting04.jpg


And jump ahead a little bit to the completed pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/webbch/Machine%20Tools/Completed01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/webbch/Machine%20Tools/Completed03.jpg

This was my first time using a real spray gun to apply the paint. I don't think the topcoat adhered as well as it should have to the primer coat. I used Rustoleum's rusty metal primer followed up with Rustoleum's 3400 system (Low VOC Industrial Enamel - Navy Gray)

Chad

laddy
09-02-2005, 06:59 PM
Looks Super!!!!

torker
09-02-2005, 07:11 PM
Chad...I'm grey and red with envy! That saw looks incredible! Have you tried it out yet?
Russ

mochinist
09-02-2005, 07:25 PM
I would have left it the way it was, now your gonna be all timid around it and afraid to scratch it. Anyways nice job cleaning it up, it looks great.

webbch
09-02-2005, 07:27 PM
Russ,

Yep, I've been using it -- had to vacuum out the chips in the pan for the last couple of pictures :-) Naturally, the paint rubs off in the clamping area. I expected that, although as mentioned the topcoat isn't as durable as I had hoped; I think they suggested using a special kind of thinner that I didn't see in the store for spraying, whereas the primer called for regular old paint thinner IIRC. I figured what was good for the primer was good for the paint (I A$$-U-ME-'d) The other alternative is that I thinned it too much before spraying, but I though that would just affect drying time, not final durability.

Overall, I like it real well. I took Forrest's recommendation and used an enamel, rather than the epoxy I was originally thinking of using. GOOD THINKING, since spraying in the garage is a VERY BAD thing when you have the furnace intake and blower out there -- All the plastic sheeting in the world (hung up around all the walls) won't stop the fumes from going into the house. This enamel was bad enough and the house smelled for about 3 days after. I think these fumes were mainly annoying (in the short term). I think epoxy fumes would have been VERY VERY bad.

I'm thinking of calling up Ramco to see if they have some stickers -- I had to take em off during cleanup.

Chad

webbch
09-02-2005, 07:33 PM
mochinist,

I already have a couple "scratches" where I clamp it -- so it's already gotten the first scratch, bring on the rest :-)!!

Seriously, this was more learning than anything else. I didn't take any close up's cuz CCWKen would've REALLY ripped my spray job :-) From a pros point of view, I'm sure it turned out mediocre at best.

I can honestly say I could care less if I get a few scratches in it. I plan on using it, and all I hope is that it all stays roughly the same color. I don't seem myself touching it up anytime soon.

CCWKen
09-02-2005, 07:52 PM
No way Chad! I think you did a fine job. I haven't seen any machines like that at the car shows anyway. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Did you take some closeup pics of the decals before stripping? You can clean them up with software and print them out on adhesive backed vinyl.

egpace
09-02-2005, 08:06 PM
Sure the things pretty, but can she cut. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Just kiddin' nice job! I have this dream where I have enough time to strip, rebuild, and paint all my equipment, but sadly I just have enough time to do a half-ass clean-up once a month.
Make some chips!
Ed

mochinist
09-02-2005, 08:25 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by webbch:
mochinist,

I already have a couple "scratches" where I clamp it -- so it's already gotten the first scratch, bring on the rest :-)!!

Seriously, this was more learning than anything else. I didn't take any close up's cuz CCWKen would've REALLY ripped my spray job :-) From a pros point of view, I'm sure it turned out mediocre at best.

I can honestly say I could care less if I get a few scratches in it. I plan on using it, and all I hope is that it all stays roughly the same color. I don't seem myself touching it up anytime soon.</font>


Right on scratch that sucker and make it look used again.

Funny story, in HighSchool I had a jeep cj5 that I bought, it was fine mechanically but needed alittle prettying up. I bought some rims and tires with my 4-H money and as a surprise B-day present my mom got it painted. Well after that it looked to pretty so I took it out and put some Arizona pinstriping on it(let the weeds and trees get alittle close on the trails) needless to say she wasn't too happy with me, but I thought it added the perfect touch.

PolskiFran
09-02-2005, 08:33 PM
Excellent job! Almost looks too nice to use. What is the capacity of the saw? It looks like it will take a good size chunk of material.

Frank

webbch
09-02-2005, 08:35 PM
CCWKen, thanks for the kind words. No, I didn't take any good closeups of the decals. I did feel a little guilty about taking off the sticker that had the serial number on it, but I moved on :-)

Ed, Yeah it cuts! The blade I'm using right now has a very small kink in it, so I can't power through any real big stuff yet without stalling. I have a blade that hasn't yet been used, but it has a bunch of surface rust on it. I've been using the saw to cut up the rebar I'm using to make a frame for my electrolysis container so I can de-rust the "new" blade and try it out.

This saw has a lot "adjustment" built in to the blade guides, which becomes somewhat of a PITA during assembly. I found that removing all blade guides and getting the blade to track well in that condition worked best. The I installed the guide bearings around the blade; that method worked quite well.

Thanks again for all the advice you folks gave during my question stage of this project.

Chad

Flatline's Up!
09-02-2005, 08:35 PM
I think you should have used a few more wraps on that webbing lift strap, just to be on the safe side... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

J/K man, it looks great! Wish I had one here like that.

webbch
09-02-2005, 08:54 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> Posted by PolskiFran:
What is the capacity of the saw? It looks like it will take a good size chunk of material.
</font>

To be honest, I'm really not sure what the capacity is. Some quick measurements suggest that I could cut a 7" x 10" piece, possibly slightly larger, I'm not really sure. I haven't looked at blades yet, but my manual says it takes 1" wide x 115-1/2" long blades.


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> Posted by Flatline's Up!:
I think you should have used a few more wraps on that webbing lift strap, just to be on the safe side...</font>

Yeah LOL :-) Not having moved any heavy equipment yet, it's the only lifting strap I had, and it was WAY too long for the job, so I just wrapped it a few dozen times.


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> Posted by mochinist:
Funny story, in HighSchool I had a jeep cj5 that I bought, it was fine mechanically but needed alittle prettying up. I bought some rims and tires with my 4-H money and as a surprise B-day present my mom got it painted. Well after that it looked to pretty so I took it out and put some Arizona pinstriping on it(let the weeds and trees get alittle close on the trails) needless to say she wasn't too happy with me, but I thought it added the perfect touch.</font>

Sometimes I don't know about you, LOL :-)Arizona pinstriping? Are you sure you didn't just leave it parked in the parking lot of some of the grocery stores around Tucson, and come out and find some jacka$$ used your jeep to slam their grocery cart into? That's another rant for another day...

I'm not gonna INTENTIONALLY put scratches in the saw, but it's not gonna ruin my day when a few of them show up unexpected.

Chad