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QSIMDO
06-15-2005, 06:43 PM
And even the inspection record and owners manual STINK TO HIGH HEAVEN!!

What IS that Yak mhung they slather on there?

So anyway, it's heavy and green and looks the business so far...except for the plastic gear behind the main pulley. That was a surprise.
And they certainly don't employ anyone in secondary operations.

And they really should have at least one sighted employee in sheet metal and paint.

But I have other Grizzly machines so that was expected.

WD40 and half a roll of paper towels so far and I'm not even past the tail stock and I really DO want to replace all their fasteners.
Don't trust them at all.
And if Allen Mfg. is still getting a royalty they're wealthy off this lot. Never heard of hex-head?

And did I mention it stinks?

Any way, wish me luck that I shouldn't have a strain getting this into the cellar.
Oy vey it's heavy IRT! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

Alistair Hosie
06-15-2005, 06:51 PM
I wish you luck! best of all fun! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif Alistair

CCWKen
06-15-2005, 07:33 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">And they really should have at least one sighted employee in sheet metal and paint.</font>

ROFLMAO! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Use Kerosene or paint thinner (mineral spirits). It usually works faster.

Forgot: The socket head cap screws give it a more "professional" look when it comes to machinery. Besides, the hex heads you buy now days are probably made in the same China factory. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

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Swarf&Sparks
06-16-2005, 09:04 AM
If it's anything like my Jet 9 x 20, replace ALL screws, t-bolts, etc. After that, not a bad machine. And, yes, I went through a gallon of kero cleaning off the packing grease.
Rgds, Lin

Swarf&Sparks
06-16-2005, 09:06 AM
Oh yeah, forgot. Better to destroy one plastic gear than the whole train/screw if you have a leedle mishap. (don't ask)

Schutzhund
09-24-2005, 08:32 PM
" except for the plastic gear behind the main pulley. That was a surprise"

Hmmm, thats odd. My G9972Z doesnt have ANY plastic gears.

See? ---&gt; http://tinypic.com/dyq87l.jpg

Dont mind the mess! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif I'm in the process of refinishing my machine. No more icky smelling green paint for ME!


[This message has been edited by Schutzhund (edited 09-25-2005).]

egpace
09-24-2005, 08:46 PM
QSIMDO,
You were warned! How many times did you hear the comment "Stay away from Chinese machine tools, they really stink" http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Good luck and have fun,
Ed http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

nheng
09-24-2005, 09:40 PM
One thing that can save a lot of time removing grease and protective coatings is a brass or stainless (easy on the finished surfaces with the SS) brush. Hit it with the WD40 or your favorite solvent, brush it lightly and it's good to go (off onto the towels). Another light wipe with solvent and it's clean. Den

lugnut
09-24-2005, 10:22 PM
I hope you are a better machinist than you are a Electrician!! is that an adapter to bypass a ground circuit on the end of the power cord?? Shame on you!! Actually, the plastic gear might save the rest of the gears someday when you have the “Big Wreck

Mel

lugnut
09-24-2005, 10:24 PM
I'm sorry, that was not your machine, It was Schutzhund who used the adapter! Sorry!Mel

Mcgyver
09-24-2005, 10:33 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by lugnut:
IActually, the plastic gear might save the rest of the gears someday when you have the “Big Wreck

Mel</font>

its the design shear pin, at least that's what an owner was told when buying replacement plastic gears after the wreck.

[This message has been edited by Mcgyver (edited 09-24-2005).]

Mcgyver
09-24-2005, 10:35 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mcgyver:
[B] its the design shear pin, at least that's what an owner was told when buying replacement plastic gears after the wreck.

congrat and have fun with it

QSIMDO
09-24-2005, 10:47 PM
Actually, what little smell that lingers on after cleaning has become somewhat comforting and inviting.
It means I'm in the shop and having a ball...chips flyin' everywhere and even accomplishing some projects!

Can't wait to get a miller now. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

torker
09-25-2005, 12:19 AM
Schutzund...HOLY MAXED OUT PICTURE SIZE!
Guys on dialup or with older machines hate that. It also makes all the posts wider.
QSIMDO...congrats! Yes that is a vile stink! I used varsol on most of my 14X40 along with brake clean. Took along time to get the smell out of my hands.
Like weird says...that there is poggy (fish gut metal protectant)
Russ

Doc Nickel
09-25-2005, 12:51 AM
When I cleaned the cosmoline-like gunk off my Griz mill, I just used a set of surgical gloves, a few paper towels and a small razor blade scraper (with a new blade) to carefully peel it all off the finished surfaces.

Then I used some old rags and less than a pint of diesel to wipe the residue off.

Worked great, only took a couple of hours, tops.

Doc.

Schutzhund
09-25-2005, 02:37 AM
"I hope you are a better machinist than you are a Electrician!! is that an adapter to bypass a ground circuit on the end of the power cord?? Shame on you!" &gt;&gt;&gt; snip

Actually, the adapter is not there to "bypass a ground circuit"...there is no ground circuit in the wiring out in the barn where I am refinishing my machine. Its "old school" wiring. Two prong outlets. How did our forefathers ever survive with such "crude" wiring? I know...the same way I survived my childhood without an infant car seat, child safety locks, airbags and Ground Fault Interrupt outlets in the bathroom. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

Schutzhund
09-25-2005, 02:45 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by torker:
Schutzund...HOLY MAXED OUT PICTURE SIZE!
Guys on dialup or with older machines hate that. It also makes all the posts wider.
</font>

Sorry about the HUGE by friggin WIDE pic. I dont have any image resizing software on the PC I posted that from. I fixed it to link to the pic now.



[This message has been edited by Schutzhund (edited 09-25-2005).]

Evan
09-25-2005, 03:16 AM
Schutzhund,

Go here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Assuming you have XP download and install the image resizer power toy.

After that just right click on any jpg image file and select "resize pictures" from the context menu.

.RC.
09-25-2005, 04:30 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Schutzhund:
Sorry about the HUGE by friggin WIDE pic. </font>


No need to be sorry Schutzhund....I like pictures the size you posted as they just fit nicely on my screen, better then those small 800X600 ones.... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Wirecutter
09-25-2005, 12:57 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by QSIMDO:

What IS that Yak mhung they slather on there?

And did I mention it stinks?</font>

That would be Mongolian Whale Snot, refined from the finest raw materials mined in the landfills of beautiful middle Asia.

Ries
09-25-2005, 01:00 PM
Not all of our forefathers did survive- around here, they call a farmer who did his own wiring "the firemans job security".

Its easy enough to ground a barn- you pound in a ground rod, and run a piece of wire to the circuit breaker box. Then you start slowly replacing that old rotten cloth covered wire and 1950's brittle plastic with new wire and sockets as needed.
I think I have rewired at least 4 buildings on my farm that way.
Fires are pretty to watch, but not when your new lathe is in the middle of em.

Schutzhund
09-25-2005, 03:34 PM
Evan,

Thanks! http://forum.gamesradar.it/images/smilies/beer.gif

This is the pic I shoulda posted in the first place. You cant see the plug with the ground adapter on it in this one. http://www.voegelitherapie.com/clemcam/smilies/banghead.gif

http://tinypic.com/dzcja1.jpg

egpace
09-25-2005, 03:56 PM
QSIMDO,
How's "ole stinky" coming? Any of the cleaning suggestions help.

QSIMDO
09-25-2005, 05:09 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by egpace:
QSIMDO,
How's "ole stinky" coming? Any of the cleaning suggestions help.

</font>

Cleaned, buffed, primped, descented and now spittin' chips from floor to ceiling!

I'll need to post a pic some day. I've got 12' of window in my walk-out basement that looks over our patio, the woods and then across the valley to a ski resort.
The lathe is strategically positioned in front of that window the sill ofwhich my wife also uses as a green house and nursery.
Plenty of space for a mill too. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

As I posted earlier, the small amount of odor left has become quite comforting now as I associate it with a most pleasant activity.

QSIMDO
09-25-2005, 05:15 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Schutzhund:
" except for the plastic gear behind the main pulley. That was a surprise"

Hmmm, thats odd. My G9972Z doesnt have ANY plastic gears.

See? ---&gt; http://tinypic.com/dyq87l.jpg

Dont mind the mess! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif I'm in the process of refinishing my machine. No more icky smelling green paint for ME!


[This message has been edited by Schutzhund (edited 09-25-2005).]</font>

Yup, two gears made of something like FRP.
Maybe it's a recent modification?
How old is your machine?

tattoomike68
09-25-2005, 05:28 PM
A lathe with a view, sounds great, much better than the clasic dark dungeon windowless type shop space. (or bars on the windows like a prison)

Some pictures would be nice.

Schutzhund
09-26-2005, 12:19 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by QSIMDO:
Yup, two gears made of something like FRP.
Maybe it's a recent modification?
How old is your machine?

</font>

The build date on my front plate says 10/2003.
As far as "the big wreck" goes, I would assume that the motor to spindle belt would slip before any of the gears started eating eachother. But, we all know what they say about assumption. ASS/U/ME. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
That said, I see no harm in a little redundancy in the gear train.

Please DO share some pics soon.

QSIMDO
09-26-2005, 07:12 PM
Oh, swell..now I've got to clean the cellar.
You guys are tough!

I'll take one when the leaves change, that'll look nice through the windows.

Schutzhund
10-15-2005, 02:53 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by QSIMDO:
Oh, swell..now I've got to clean the cellar.
You guys are tough!

I'll take one when the leaves change, that'll look nice through the windows.

</font>

Okay, the leaves are changing now... come on with the pics already! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

QSIMDO
10-15-2005, 11:49 PM
Next week.

They're mostly red oak and the rain just stopped so it'll be a few days...good thing I just washed the windows too. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Schutzhund
10-16-2005, 08:54 AM
LOL! Here ya go QSIMDO. You should join my Yahoo group. I'm trying to get something off the ground for us 11x26 guys. A place to share ideas and experiences specific to our machines.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/11x26_lathe_group/

You can post some pics there also. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Other G9972 and Modern Tools CQ6128Ax660 owners are invited to! The ones I can think of off the top of my head are: CLAW..L Prince...J Harp... Norman Atkinson...Rafael (does he post here? I know he posts on the Practical Machinist bbs) Drop by and say hello guys!

claw
10-17-2005, 12:28 PM
thanx schutz, i have it book marked. will keep an eye on it.

QSIMDO
10-18-2005, 09:31 AM
I'm in!

Schutzhund
10-18-2005, 12:36 PM
w00t!