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motorworks
10-31-2005, 04:11 PM
CBC News
Bavarian beavers were reintroduced at a reserve in England on Thursday, 500 years after the rodents were hunted to extinction.

The six beavers were released into a fenced-in area at a nature reserve on Cotswold Water Park in Gloucestershire after completing a six-month quarantine.


Beavers are adapted for the water.
"The European beaver is much more gentle than the Canadian beaver, and causing damage will not be an issue with them," said Simon Pickering, a conservationist with the University of Bath.

"Unlike their Canadian cousins, they don't tend to build as many dams," Pickering told reporters.

The German beaver is smaller and quieter than the Canadian species, Castor canadensis.


"I think we're talking between five and 10 years to start repopulating the U.K.," said Jeremy Paxton, owner of the Lower Mill Estate. "If this is successful, which we believe it will be, then the beavers will be released into the wider areas down here."

Pickering said it's hoped the beavers will change the landscape of the old mineral sites by digging shallow areas for aquatic plants.

In 2001, British scientists attempted to reintroduce beavers, but the animals failed to breed.

Rustybolt
10-31-2005, 04:31 PM
Remind him of that statement in 20 years when all your riparian vegitation is turning into beaver fat.
The beaver was all but exterpated east of the mississippi river 30-40 years ago. Now you can't go down a mile of river anywhere and view their handiwork. The don't build dams, just girdle large trees and kill them.It's nice to have wild critters around untill they devour your stuff.
It's getting dark, I gotta go and let the cat in or the coyotes will get her.

aboard_epsilon
10-31-2005, 05:06 PM
This is were the planners get there come upance.
Having allowed many housing estates to be built on flood planes.
They are getting flooded now ....what's going to happen when these beavers start populating.
All the best..mark

BillH
10-31-2005, 05:39 PM
Hmm, I thought this topic was about muffs.

motorworks
10-31-2005, 05:49 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BillH:
Hmm, I thought this topic was about muffs.</font>

It is
"The European beaver is much more gentle than the Canadian beaver"

mochinist
10-31-2005, 07:32 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by motorworks:
It is
"The European beaver is much more gentle than the Canadian beaver"

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Yeah but I hear the European beaver isn't into shaving.

topct
10-31-2005, 07:35 PM
Ah! the beaver, an interesting beast no matter what country it may come from.

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Gene

rsr911
10-31-2005, 07:44 PM
No beaver in the UK? Guess that explains the whole sheep thing... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

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-Christian D. Sokolowski

dvideo
10-31-2005, 10:18 PM
What about wolves? There used to be English Wolves. Marsh and forest critters...

--jr

J Tiers
10-31-2005, 11:30 PM
Danged if we didn't have one in a stream near work.... stream is almost a drainage ditch...

Cut trees, built a dam, teh whole deal.

All was well until he felled one right across a road..... they trapped him after that.

Another one a bit west... Dam, house, the whole deal. That one has more friends.... and has been there several years. Both well within built up areas.

ANY critter is Ok until there are too many.... works for beavers, deer, whatever...

There are some where one is several too many for the area... like grizzly bears in town, or coyotes, etc. it may be their home, but we live there now...... we changed the locks....

And I really didn't appreciate the 'coon that ate the koi from my pond, AND brought all the diseases picked up in the slime from the sewers he traveled in to get here .... Waited for him, and beat heck out of him before he got away..... he hasn't been back.

Beavers eat bark, so yeah, they do tear up trees. But I think they prefer more brushwood, they seem to collect it and store it more than large trees.

What's next, snakes for Ireland ?

Norman Atkinson
11-01-2005, 02:23 AM
And Haggis for Scotland?

Believe me; they are now breeding a vegetarian variety.

They still walk with two legs shorter than the others.

And them Bavarian Beavers? I gather that they have have tungsten carbide teeth. The ones from Plansee do.

Is this too clever? My stamping ground.

Road L255, then L260, then B198 into Reutte.

And now folks, we are no longer OT.

Now to Garmisch Partenkirchen where the ski jump is within view of the local hospital.

And at Erhwald has a memorial to a B24 Liberator crew.

Norm

IOWOLF
11-01-2005, 05:17 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mochinist:

Originally posted by motorworks:
It is
"The European beaver is much more gentle than the Canadian beaver"

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Yeah but I hear the European beaver isn't into shaving.

Or batheing.

Oh and them Tijauana beavers are real friendly, but still not too clean.

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The tame Wolf !

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sauer38h
11-01-2005, 09:49 AM
What the hell kind of beaver doesn't build dams? The beaver is on the ugliest school ring ever made (the school ring I don't wear - ref. that "married" thread) and it's on the ring because it's the only animal which builds moderately elaborate structures. That is, if you don't count the hive insects (bees, ants, termites). Or birds. Or the trapdoor spider. Never mind.

Alistair Hosie
11-01-2005, 09:55 AM
What would happen if a big hairy beaver and a trapdoor spider had offspring doesn't bear thinking about http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gifAlistair

Last Old Dog
11-01-2005, 10:44 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by motorworks:

CBC News
Bavarian beavers were reintroduced at a reserve in England on Thursday, 500 years after the rodents were hunted to extinction.

The six beavers were released into a fenced-in area at a nature reserve on Cotswold Water Park in Gloucestershire after completing a six-month quarantine. </font>

How could these aforementioned nonexistent animals be reintroduced? They are extinct, all dead, gonzo, no mas, and for 500 years at that!

So the next time I hear the 'Dooms Day' enviro-freakos rail about all the species going extinct every year, I'll know they are full of it. Merely reintroduce them just as was explained above.

And all this time I thought we were running out of plants and animals, no worries. Fetch some from long term storage, tell then to go forth amd multiply, it's handled.
Last Old Dog

Timleech
11-01-2005, 11:06 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Last Old Dog:
How could these aforementioned nonexistent animals be reintroduced? They are extinct, all dead, gonzo, no mas, and for 500 years at that!

Last Old Dog </font>

Extinct in Britain for 500 years. Still going elsewhere.
It'll be brown bears next http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

Tim

Norman Atkinson
11-01-2005, 11:25 AM
My bit of Googling indicates that someone called Waterwolf was involved.

The Tijuana Beavers are a football team

Bavarian Beavers?

IOWOLF- another of your Trick or Treat larks?

Norm

sauer38h
11-01-2005, 11:27 AM
I wonder why they figure the little buggers will breed this time, when they didn't the last time.

I suppose if they aren't wasting the whole day chewing on logs and building things, they might find the time for it.

aboard_epsilon
11-01-2005, 12:53 PM
"The Tijuana Beavers are a football team"


and look what happend when they did the same with badgers

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/footy/

all the best..mark

Norman Atkinson
11-01-2005, 01:26 PM
And the Beemers from Bavaria are clogging up every road in Europe!

Then, and IOWOLF is claiming immunity, all this stuff from Wolfs-burg is adding more chaos.

Hamburgers might be all right- but Wolfsburgers?

Norm

sauer38h
11-01-2005, 02:26 PM
"The Beavers" is the name of the MIT girl's ice hockey team.

Honest, I wouldn't make something like that up.

Their cheer is particularly good.

John Stevenson
11-01-2005, 02:46 PM
No guys you have it all wrong.
Here's a few shots of my Beaver being returned to captivity from the wild.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/first_delivery%201.jpg

What isn't obvious from the pictures is that there is a phone cable running across the drive hence the hiab lifting the machine over the cable.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/first_delivery%202.jpg

Last pic shows the head removed with the motor and hydraulic accumlator from the beam to allow this to go in thru the doors.

Sir John.

Rustybolt
11-01-2005, 04:04 PM
John. That's the biggest beaver I've ever seen!
If anybody ever asks I'll have to say John Stevenson has a big beaver.

Evan
11-01-2005, 04:09 PM
But do they multiply in captivity?

Norman Atkinson
11-01-2005, 04:29 PM
Only when they use Log Tables!

Norman

sauer38h
11-01-2005, 04:46 PM
At least that Beaver dangling at the end of the crane isn't a Balding Beaver, perhaps the most unfortunate name ever inflicted on a machine tool.

IOWOLF
11-01-2005, 05:31 PM
Innocent of all charges.

Mcgyver
11-01-2005, 05:45 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">At least that Beaver dangling at the end of the crane isn't a Balding Beaver, </font>

While some may prefer a bald beaver, Canadians know there is nothing quite as soft and nice as a sheared beaver.
http://www.georgiasfurs.com/Fur%20Gallery/photos/SHEAREDBEAVERDIREC.jpg

dvideo
11-01-2005, 06:06 PM
Well you could have just told your neighbors about it.... Did not have to hold it up real high for everyone to see. But they sure know it's there now... Theae beavers can just grind wood to splinters, sometime.

--jr

motorworks
11-01-2005, 06:38 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/motorworks/beaver.jpg

John Stevenson
11-01-2005, 07:00 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:
But do they multiply in captivity?</font>

'Fraid so Evan.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/delivery-2.jpg

He's a couple that we found in captivity a while later.
The green one of the left is an Acton mill and the one on the right is another Beaver with Auto Tool Changer.

Here's the Beaver being delivered.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/delivery-3jpg.jpg

Sheeted down so as not the frighten the first one. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

This one was stripped for parts to keep the first Beaver and the Acton running as they shared the same electronics and a lot of common parts.
I couldn't have run this Beaver as it was with an ATC on as it was too high for the shop.
It was worth buying the pair as they wanted to get rid and I only paid £800 for the two.

Sir John.

sauer38h
11-01-2005, 07:34 PM
And how much for the neat-o crane?

John Stevenson
11-01-2005, 07:52 PM
Mark, the guy who owned this, offered it me for £1K about two years ago as he was buying a larger one.
I couldn't see the sense of buying it and storing it when I have access to the bigger one.

In the meanwhile he's moved away which was a shame as he never charged a lot.
I think he also moved machines for Tim Leech on this board.

Hiab machines aren't rare here in the UK, most builders merchants have these fitted to save time and a decent drink usually gets you a mid sized machine like a Bridgy delivered with no problem.


Sir John.

Evan
11-02-2005, 11:18 AM
Dime a dozen around here. If you need something moved here wait for "breakup" during the spring when all the logging is shut down. There's plenty of self loading logging trucks around here with high capacity Hiabs on them doing nothing for a couple of months every year. The lumber yards have them on flatbeds too.

Norman Atkinson
11-02-2005, 01:11 PM
Here we have problems in lifting things.
If you look at the home page of one,the aforesaid Simon Pickering, you will see what research going on in this direction.

Norm

Carl
11-03-2005, 12:43 AM
http://www.mrbeaver.net/images_weird/shavedbeaver.gif

madman
11-03-2005, 10:59 AM
Beaver WOW nice machines.

Happy
11-03-2005, 03:59 PM
Beavers on ice.


http://www.uscho.com/m/team,bsu.html

sandman2234
11-03-2005, 05:22 PM
My Bro in law found two young beavers whose mother had gotten killed. Brought them home and they bottle fed them. Many years later, they are still alive and doing well in the backyard in DeQueen, Arkansas.
David from jax