making a hit&miss gas tank (warning, lots of photos)

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  • Mcgyver
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 13411

    making a hit&miss gas tank (warning, lots of photos)

    Needed to make a brass gas tank for my hit & miss engine and thought you guys might like some pictures. Experts might find the photo’s superfluous, but I tried to take enough that it’s a bit of a how-to post for someone newer

    Lazy mans way of laying out the sheet – propped up against an angle plate, the height gauge makes quick work of the layout. Brass is .028 thou.

    A lot of the corner material can be cut with good shears, but as the corners will have tabs, you need to get into them with a fret saw. Here’s the simple set up for this job

    Cutting out the corner with a fret saw

    The sheet is now ready for folding. Corners all cleaned out and any required touchups done with a file

    Here the sheet metal is held in a home made set of folding bars – just crs, some dowel pins and cap screws.
    In the midst of the first fold – I held the bars vertically as the wasn’t enough throat distance in the vice to hold horizontally – a more convenient position. Note that the tabs are not folded over at this setting of the bars

    This is the right tool for folding the metal over so as to not mare the surface; a leather mallet

    located in Toronto Ontario
  • Mcgyver
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 13411

    #2
    Here is a tab that has just been folded. Note how the bars have been moved so that there is about a 1/32 gap between the bar and the side – this will allow the tab to fold up inside the of the side

    Here the work piece is ready to have the ends folded.
    Hunt through the scrap box for a chunk of metal to fold against and that will fit in side of the box. Here the end is being folded. Note how the tabs tuck neatly inside of the box.

    The narrow lip on the bottom piece is folding using the folding bars

    Here’s the competed sheet metal work, ready for soldering

    Simple solder set up, weight & refractory bricks. Wet paper towel was used as a heat sink around completed joints.

    Here a some shots of the competed tank. I had wanted to include shots of bending the pipes and shots of them set up for soldering, but I managed to destroy my camera (arrrg). Bought a new one for these final shots. The pipes were soldering using my 3rd hand design http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//Fo...ML/012958.html



    Hope its of some value to you


    [This message has been edited by Mcgyver (edited 11-06-2005).]
    located in Toronto Ontario

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    • tattoomike68

      #3
      very nice , a work of art.

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      • aboard_epsilon
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2004
        • 6107

        #4
        WONDERFUL Mcgyver.
        GREAT POST
        This is what I like ....a complete beginning to end explanation on how to do a very good job.
        Learnt quite a bit from your post , keep 'em coming ....in the same style.
        well done !
        all the best...mark

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        • charlie coghill
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2001
          • 1149

          #5
          Mc I have not done a lot of sheet metal work so yes this has been some help. Thanks.
          Don\'t ask me to do a dam thing, I\'m retired.
          http://home.earthlink.net/~kcprecision/

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          • lugnut
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2004
            • 1896

            #6
            Great looking tank! I really liked the "1/32 gap between the bar and the side" I'll try to file that little trick in my ever shrinking memory file. Have you posted any photos of your "hit and miss" project? Thanks for sharing your work and photos with us.
            Mel
            _____________________________________________

            I would rather have tools that I never use, than not have a tool I need.
            Oregon Coast

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            • Your Old Dog
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 7269

              #7
              Yea what lugnut said! I always screw it up on the tab. I'll try to think a little more precise and see if comes out like yours My guess is it won't. If neatness counts for anything you go to the head of the class.
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              • Luke55
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2004
                • 188

                #8
                Real nice.Want to see the engine now.

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                • 3 Phase Lightbulb

                  #9
                  <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Here is a tab that has just been folded. Note how the bars have been moved so that there is about a 1/32 gap between the bar and the side – this will allow the tab to fold up inside the of the side</font>
                  Thanks for the tip! I've made a few boxes like that but I've always bent both tabs and side at the same time.

                  -Adrian

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                  • jkilroy
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 1494

                    #10
                    Of course Neil is probably wondering why you didn't submit that as an article, seeing that you did all the work? Very nice either way, thanks for the pics.
                    James Kilroy

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                    • CCWKen
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8567

                      #11
                      Wow! Looks GREAT Mcgyver!

                      Looks like you're ready to do some Model T fenders.

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                      • JRouche
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 10962

                        #12
                        Great work. I was a sheet metal mechanic for a few years and that is a real nice tank. JRouche

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                        • Furnace
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 183

                          #13
                          Very boss...

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                          • japcas
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 1149

                            #14
                            Great post. This is the kind of info I come to this forum for. Very useful info. Would love to see the hit n miss engiine now.
                            Jonathan P.

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                            • Mcgyver
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 13411

                              #15
                              thanks guys, I'll post some pics of the hit miss, one of those long term projects progressing in fits and starts
                              located in Toronto Ontario

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