View Full Version : Drill bits, Bright or Surface treated finish?

08-06-2001, 07:35 AM
What are Bright finish drill bits used for and what are surface treated finish drill bits used for?

J&L has a set on sale that I am interested in and it is the same price for the Bright or the Surface treat finishs. I am just learning about machining and tend to do more farm machinery repairs with the drill bits.


08-06-2001, 10:36 AM
I've used both and never noticed a whole lot of difference, although I haven't paid much attention, either.
I've been using a set of surface-treat 135 degree split point screw machine length drills lately, and like them a lot. I've also got sets of bright 118 degree fractional, number, and letter drills, and they work well too.

I think the main thing is to get good-quality bits, whichever kind they are. Poor-quality drill bits are useless, and you'll have to end up buying good ones, anyway.

08-06-2001, 06:27 PM
The black surface treated drills are for steel, polished drills are for aluminum and other non-ferous materials, at least that's what the catalogs say. Funny thing, the outfit I work for deals mostly with aluminum, yet almost all our drills are black. I think they're just more commonly available.

C. Tate
08-06-2001, 08:40 PM
I tend to think the same as Randy, The polished drills are supposed to keep soft gummy materials from sticking to cutting edge. I have both in my drill index and I cannot tell the difference.

08-07-2001, 07:11 AM
Thanks for the replies.

I will go with the black surface treated drill bits since I rarely drill soft materials like Aluminum.

08-21-2001, 04:27 AM
If you want a good set of drills get a set of 135* splitpoints. I have a set of Norseman "high moly alloy" that go through 304 stainless like a hot knife through butter in Mexico! The drills have a bronze color (TiAlN ?). Excellent drills (made in St. Paul, Minnesota). I like their taps & dies (same alloy as their drills) better than my Osborne Warrior & Blue Wizard taps.

The polished flutes are "supposed" to help draw chips out of deeper holes - less friction. The coatings (TiN, TiCN, TiAlN, and Diamond film) they use these days make a big difference for mass production and resulting tool life. Their hardness and high heat resistance improves edge life even with carbide tooling.