PDA

View Full Version : My Work



jr45acp
12-12-2005, 12:54 PM
After hanging out on this board for some time and drooling over the work you other guys do, I've decided to share an example of mine. This pistol is entirely hand fitted and the machine work was limited to fitting the bushing to the barrel and making the initial sight cuts on the slide. This is what I refer to as a "social" gun is is entirely for personal carry. It's reliability is 100% and it will hold a 2" group at 50 yards from a machine (Ransom) rest. I have more hours in the assembly than I can remember, but I've got as good as pistol as the "big" name builders for a whole lot less investment. Not counting time, I've got less than $1100.00 in the whole package.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/jr45acp/IM000373.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/jr45acp/IM000372.jpg

John B

PS: I reviewed Evan's instructions prior to this post, so I hope I've added the pics correctly.

Second edit, Evan, in his typically gentle manner corrected my lack of expertise with posting pics! Thanks Evan

[This message has been edited by jr45acp

edited 12-12-2005).]

[This message has been edited by jr45acp (edited 12-12-2005).]

Evan
12-12-2005, 01:13 PM
You need to copy and paste the links provided below each picture in your album. The link you put in takes us to your login screen.

jkilroy
12-12-2005, 01:52 PM
Very nice pistol, good work. Did you start with an existing weapon or did you buy a frame, slide, etc? I would love to know where you get your parts, or if you make you own. How do you like that flat front trigger?

sauer38h
12-12-2005, 02:58 PM
Holy cow, $1100 to get a "reliable" pistol?

3 Phase Lightbulb
12-12-2005, 03:42 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jr45acp:
It's reliability is 100% and it will hold a 2" group at 50 yards from a machine (Ransom) rest.</font>


Very nice work! What's a "machine (Ransom)" rest? I assume that's some sort of firing rig? I get simular numbers with my 9mm and .45: ~50" group at ~2 yards http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

-Adrian

BillH
12-12-2005, 04:03 PM
Dont have to spend 1100$, I bought my CZ75 used for 275$ and so far has been 100% reliable and hell of a lot more accurate in my hands than my Sig P220 was. Never shot the thing at 50 yards yet, have at 25 yards and got holes touching each other.
Nice pistol there, I think one day I will get another .45.

topct
12-12-2005, 04:21 PM
Function over form. And the form works for me too.

Nice job.



------------------
Gene

IOWOLF
12-12-2005, 04:46 PM
Gotta love a 1911 style 45.
Though I like one the best 45 I have ever shot accurately was the glock 21,Baby food jars at 25 yds all day long....got boreing after the second or third mag.

------------------
The tame Wolf !

3 Phase Lightbulb
12-12-2005, 04:49 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IOWOLF:
Baby food jars at 25 yds all day long....</font>

I had a feeling you were still eating that stuff.

Evan
12-12-2005, 05:03 PM
"Baby food jars at 25 yds all day long...."

I'm betting he switches to light bulbs...

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

IOWOLF
12-12-2005, 05:18 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 3 Phase Lightbulb:
I had a feeling you were still eating that stuff.

</font>

Yea and your still on your mammas tit. After hanging on it that long you should take your money and get her a boob job.



------------------
The tame Wolf !

JRouche
12-12-2005, 05:22 PM
Looks nice. Curious, the trigger looks straight (no curvature) at the front, is it, and does it have serrations. Some "lightening" holes there would look nice.

Did you manufacture the hammer, is it bobbed?

What it the material on the forward portion of the grip?

The grip safety looks "big", can you still reach above it with a thumb while keeping a proper grip? I have short thumbs http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//frown.gif

Real nice work, I really like the 1911 style handguns. One of mine is a Grizzly .45 Win mag. Talk about problems with small thumbs, the grip is huge http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

JRouche

meho
12-12-2005, 05:44 PM
Great looking pistol.

Nice skate board tape on the grip. I did that for years on one of my IPSC pistols. It works well. I also put a piece in front of the slide stop to index my thumb on.

Heinie sights and Videki trigger? Nice mag well also. Its been a long time since my pistol shooting days.

James

John Stevenson
12-12-2005, 05:53 PM
For $1100 couldn't you pay them to go away and stop bothering you instead of shooting them ?

3 Phase Lightbulb
12-12-2005, 06:20 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evan:
"Baby food jars at 25 yds all day long...."

I'm betting he switches to light bulbs...

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif</font>

I don't think that would be a good idea.. Apparently, IOWOLF is intimidated by anything bright.

Evan
12-12-2005, 06:51 PM
He'll probably use burned out ones.

phil burman
12-12-2005, 07:02 PM
Like your thinking John. Alternatively buy em a beer or two, get em drunk then kick em to death. Not as quick as that LDM but a lot more satifying. A bit up close for some though, blood everywhere, lubalyjubaly, perfic.

Phil


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by John Stevenson:
For $1100 couldn't you pay them to go away and stop bothering you instead of shooting them ?</font>

JIMofalltrades031
12-12-2005, 08:07 PM
Nice job. Now go shoot it till it needs a new barrel and a new sear and the slide done. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//cool.gif

wierdscience
12-12-2005, 09:12 PM
Nice as always,say was that you that do the hand checkering so well?

Yankee1
12-12-2005, 10:19 PM
Hi JR,
I have a mark 4 from Colts custom shop and it groups 1". The slide and frame are nickle plated. They made a mistake and left them in the plating tank too long and ended up sending the whole batch to the custom shop to have the slides hand fitted to the frames. The Colt distributor in Los Angeles told me that it should take forever to wear out the slide to frame fit. It has Pachmeyer signature rubber grips and is a pleasure to shoot.
Chuck

sauer38h
12-12-2005, 10:41 PM
The absolute worst fit I ever saw on a 1911-type slide was on a factory Gold Cup National Match.

Phooey.

My theory is that they do all their work at Colt in the dark. They must have thought the same thing at Remington-UMC in 1917 when they got a wartime contract to start cranking out 1911s, and found that Colt had no toleranced drawings - everything was made by guess and by gosh.

I recently chatted for a bit with an engineer who had been at Colt for a few years, and apparently they're still doing it that way.

meho
12-12-2005, 11:34 PM
"The absolute worst fit I ever saw on a 1911-type slide was on a factory Gold Cup National Match."

You got that right. The first thing to do to a Gold Cup is send it to a gun plumber to tighten it up. What a waste of money. I have not known a single person that took a stock Gold Cup and shot it in a match.

I have no respect for Colt or Ruger. The AR-15, 1911 and the 10/22 are some or the most highly modified platforms on the market. IPSC, IDPA, Highpower Rifle and other competitions are dominated by these models. Everyone with half an idea has after market stuff for these guns. The manufacturers should have seen the money people were making on mods to their products and capitalized on it quicker.

Colt doesn't have a decent service rifle and never has produced a 1911 that would pass for a competition gun. It took Ruger years to come out with a heavy barrel version of the 10/22 after everyone elce had replacement barrels, stocks and triggers.

James

HTRN
12-13-2005, 02:18 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 3 Phase Lightbulb:

Very nice work! What's a "machine (Ransom)" rest? I assume that's some sort of firing rig?-Adrian</font>

http://ransomrest.com/images/Pistol.gif
Ransom International (http://ransomrest.com/)

They are indeed a machine rest for pistols. They're really the only way to truly determine the actual accuracy of a pistol.

------------------
This Old Shed (http://thisoldshed.tripod.com)

david_r
12-13-2005, 02:21 AM
John,
Nice gun you've built. The trigger isn't really my style but it sure does make the whole trigger guard look square. Neat optical illusion.

Wolf,
My dog's cut up feet would like to thank you and your git for your choice in environmentally friendly targets.

John@JCDLESales
12-13-2005, 02:56 AM
JR45ACP

Very Nice Indeed JR

We are more or less NFA Class 3 with regard to weapons. I love the 1911 and have done too many to remember all. Please keep in touch.

This is my first post here as I was looking for a Rongfu RF 45. The gentelman that use to do our machining DIED but I was able to learn a few things from him over the years. His Heirs wanted $$$ selling by the Lb. I guess for his Mill and lathe even though it was some 40 years old so I found this forum looking fo opinions on the Rongfu RF 45. Below please find some of the weapons we produce or at least did until Pat's unfortunate death.

Any and all help in opinions of the Rongfu RF45 will be greatly appreciated. We don't do alot of machining and thought this might be a good choice for our small business.

Thanks In Advance,

John

Les Baer Nowlin BBL "For Sale by The Way"
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/LesBaer5005.jpg
ALL MG's Are Legal Post Dealer Samples
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/RPDEjectionSide3.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/RPDLockingTailPiece.jpg

Uzi Builds Pics
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/UZI_Parts_Kit_3.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/UZI_Receivers_In_The_White_1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/UZIBuild4.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/UZIBuild1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/RPD1A.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/RPD2.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/RPD3.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/RPD3A.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/RPD4.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/RPD5.jpg
Colt Combat Gov't With Some 20,000 RDS Through It
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/MP5Guy/ColtGovtCombat6001.jpg
[IMG][This message has been edited by John@JCDLESales (edited 12-13-2005).]

[This message has been edited by John@JCDLESales (edited 12-13-2005).]

[This message has been edited by John@JCDLESales (edited 12-13-2005).]

IOWOLF
12-13-2005, 05:19 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by david_r:
John,
Nice gun you've built. The trigger isn't really my style but it sure does make the whole trigger guard look square. Neat optical illusion.

Wolf,
My dog's cut up feet would like to thank you and your git for your choice in environmentally friendly targets.</font>

Awww too bad, I don't care for dogs anyway.
And for those others who dont know, baby food jars are made fron plastic now.


------------------
The tame Wolf !

jr45acp
12-13-2005, 05:46 AM
I appreciate all the responses and will attempt to respond to them.

The frame and slide were procurred from Caspian Arms and then I hand fitted these two components. The remainder of the parts, with the exception of the trigger shoe, and barrel were obtained from Brownells. The barrel was obtained from Barsto. All hand fitting was done by me, including the hammer and sear and it has a crisp 4.5lb trigger pull.

I have very short fingers, to the point that even a standard short trigger was still a touch long for me. So, I took and existing trigger bow and fabricated the short, flat shoe from a piece of aluminum. It is too short to have lightening holes and in fact is extremely light as it is. The front of the trigger shoe is very lightly serated. Indeed the front strap is covered with grip tape. The checkering was previously done on the parts I used (I've tried checkering, but still have a ways to go to master it).

I don't have any problems with the beaver tail grip safety as I use the high thumb grip.

As for the monetarty investment, a comprable pistol from one of the big name builders would start at $2500 and up. So, being long on desire and short on money, I took years of exposure and went at it myself.

As for it's accuracy, as stated it is a purely defensive weapon. I put a higher priority on reliability, mostly due to 30 years in law enforcement.

Thanks again for the kind remarks.

John B

ricksplace
12-13-2005, 02:06 PM
Nice work. There's nothing like a hand-fitted gun to instill confidence. I had a CZ75 that I worked on, trigger, slide, hammer). It would chug along with just about anything you could stuff in it. Cast RN & SWC too. Never had it in a ransom rest. I could keep them in the black on a 20yd pistol target, so I was happy.

Your craftsmanship far exceeds mine. Looks like a labour of love.