View Full Version : Adjustable Hydraulic Downfeed
01-12-2006, 11:14 AM
Anybody know a place to buy one online. I've looked at McMasters, MSC, and a bunch of other sites. Nothing. MSC doesn't respond to my email. I have one their Band Saws and it's listed as one of the options. I figure I can just buy one some place and make a bracket to attach it.
01-12-2006, 12:24 PM
I have saw, a two way cylinder, a needle orifice, you put a tee on the top, load vegetable oil in..
As the pressure causes the needle to bleed the oil off one side and lets it down. The needle orifice needs to have a one-way spring release so you can pick it up..
I'll look. I did have a box of spring loaded orifices. I have a mess of small cylinders too but most are one-sided and spring loaded.
Simpler is better.
01-12-2006, 12:27 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by paulgrandy:
MSC doesn't respond to my email. </font>
Try their (MSC's) machinery customer support line. 1-800-331-1110. A REAL, LIVE PERSON will talk to you.
[This message has been edited by ERBenoit (edited 01-12-2006).]
01-12-2006, 12:50 PM
Northern Hydraulic sells a optional hydraulic unit for their bandsaws. It looks like the same setup that every other import saw has on it. I was was told to get it from Northern online, as their stores are little crazy help-wise. And I need one also.
[This message has been edited by daryl bane (edited 01-12-2006).]
01-12-2006, 01:08 PM
Would the tailgate downfeed from a car not do sometimes estate cars hatchbacks have hydraulic units there get one from a scrappie and try it out should be cheap.unless this doesn't work just a thought.Alistair
01-12-2006, 02:05 PM
If you want to build your own, a fairly simple/inexpensive downfeed modification was discussed on the Yahoo group "4x6bandsaw".
Also Look in the Photos Section under "HDC MODS".
This was about a year ago.
It uses a cylinder from Surplus Center.
If I remember correctly, it was <$10.
I added one to my cheap 4x6 and love it.
01-12-2006, 05:23 PM
When I first go my Wells saw the downfeed did not work, took it apart and fouond out why, some previous owner had made a new piston for it using two o-rings, on the Wells saws this makes in nearly impossible to lift after finishing a cut. The original pistons are not round but hexagonal. with a leather seal that seals only on the down stroke, when lifting the saw the leather folds, for lack of a better word, and allows the oil above to flow quickly past. When I called Wells they had the seal but not the piston, so they sent me a print and I made one.
01-12-2006, 07:09 PM
Northern shows an optional accessory downfeed for one of their band saws. The saw is Item# 14573 and the kit is 145732. I couldn't get the search to work so I don't know what the price might be or if it's sold separate. See if you can get the number to come up.
01-13-2006, 08:02 AM
Thanks for the info. Here's what I get a Northern. It's probably a marketing technique to get people to buy another band saw with the cylinder.
Due to high demand, Item# 145732 is no longer available.
Northern Industrial Tools Hydraulic Cylinder
Please use the links below to continue shopping or to find similar items...
01-13-2006, 12:53 PM
Ain't that aload of cr**. I was wanting to get one of the kits too. Jet has about the same type of downfeed on their saws. They supposedly have much better customer service, could you buy a kit from them, or how about Grizzly?
I bought one of the kits from that ebay fella a few years ago. After I got it, I figured out what it was. It is an adjustable resistance air cylinder that is used on a rowing machine. You know the ones...they can be found in those torture chambers they call spas and gyms. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif So, keep an eye out for a rowing machine at the curbside. It just might have everything you need.
01-14-2006, 01:05 PM
I thought about those adjustable air cylinders. I did a quick look and couldn't find anyplace that sells them without a machine attached. I think Jake(Body by Jake) the Snake has one on his latest machine. Maybe I'll check with him. I know a place in CA that sells all kinds of parts for fitness equip. I'll have to check there. But if they want the same price as that cylinder($114)that they no longer sell, I'll just rig up an adjustable counterweight on the saw.
"Due to high demand, Item# 145732 is no longer available."
I always "love" that sort of logic. I need something and "they" don't have it anymore. I ask why and they tell me that it didn't sell well enough so they don't stock it.
Yeah sure. It didn't sell. Then how come all the ones you used to have are sold? Doesn't sell well enough. Right, it's hard to sell what you don't stock.
01-17-2006, 05:39 PM
per missy rep #252 @ northern you can still order it by phone
the new part # is ti145732
you canot order it on line