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torker
02-27-2006, 07:45 PM
I needed a backup light switch for my shifter on my truck project.
Went to the electric supply and looked at a couple different ones that wouldn't work. The one that would was $40Cnd.
Not worth it to me.
I went to the dump and looked around. Hmmm dryers have cool looking multi point contact switches. Some are built like legos. You can add or subtract any combintaion of contact points you want.
Milled a couple slots in the brackets, welded one bracket on, drill/tap for a round head nylon screw to push the contact and got a "micro switch" for $0.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/torker/005950a7.jpg
Russ

Al Messer
02-27-2006, 08:55 PM
Good show!!

CCWKen
02-27-2006, 09:18 PM
Great ingenuity! The problem I see is the first time it gets wet, you loose your lights. (corrosion)

Is this on the column or tranny?

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SJorgensen
02-27-2006, 09:23 PM
Look for a better switch. The problems that you have in vehicles are different than what you have in a machine that is kept in your house. What you want for a vehicle is a microswitch that is completely sealed from the elements and that can handle the power that you are switching. Also, it is essential that your connections are soldered and well sealed from exposure. I would use shrink tubing and I would probably put a little silicone sealer inside the shrink tubing before I shrink it. Exposed contacts will usually become a problem in a vehicle eventually. It is usually at the worst time possible.

torker
02-27-2006, 10:31 PM
Ummm...I've been doing this for 35 years. Made all the mistakes mentioned.
Not to worry, all connections are soldered and heat shrunk.
Also...the shifter is in a box inside the truck, up on top of the tunnel, if it gets wet that means the water'll be up to my waist...inside the cab.
I'm not too worried about this switch not working for two little 12 volt back up bulbs. These are for the "legal" ones. The high powered ones will go through relays and 12 guage wires.

Kansas_Farmer
02-27-2006, 10:58 PM
I LOVE it!! Nice Job!!

torker
02-28-2006, 12:04 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kansas_Farmer:
I LOVE it!! Nice Job!!</font>
Now I'm not suprised to hear that from a farmer http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif. Where I came from (a ranch) if you needed almost anything...you built it yourself or did without.

Evan
02-28-2006, 12:26 AM
Cheap is relative. At one point in time I had a mint condition Cessna 140. At the same time we drove an Austin Cambridge that I paid $90 for. It did have leather seats though. Cheap is just a matter of prorities. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//smile.gif

SJorgensen
02-28-2006, 12:41 AM
Evan,
I'm getting pretty good at using Google. In about 10 seconds I was looking at pictures of Austin Cambridge cars. That is a pretty ugly car. Some cars have a lovable character,beyond outer appearance. Was that one of them?

Some cars just don't fail, and others are so reliable that even oil changes are forgotten. Chassis lube and greasing components is almost forgotten or unnecessary. I love my old 69 J3000. It has lots of corrosion issues and bad wiring. It is a work in progress. Much of the neglect that these old Jeeps sustained was directly related to their reliability. Yet these are not among the ones that do well without attention to lubrication. Now you only see old Jeep trucks pushing snowplows.
I'm going to be pulling a boat so my electrical system is getting a thorough redo.

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Evan
02-28-2006, 12:53 AM
The Austin didn't look out of place in Victoria next to the british double deck buses. It was ok to drive and quite comfortable. After I tightened up the bolts holding the rear axle onto the springs it no longer pulled to the right on acceleration and left on deceleration. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif I never did buy a new battery for it so I always had to crank start it. It always started on the first pull.

Peter S
02-28-2006, 04:48 AM
SJorgensen,

If you grew up in a British Commonwealth country a few years ago, driving and fixing Austin, Morris, Vauxhall, Vanguard (Google a Phase 1 Vanguard for ugly-but-neat looks!) and a few other now forgotten makes, was part of life!

Morris and Austin etc were affordable, slow, simple and quite good, you learnt how to fix things, there was always something needing attention, maybe just the points, or a column change which selected two gears at once - those old car blues.

Now, you get a Jap car for your first car, and they run and run...

torker
02-28-2006, 07:00 AM
Evan, I'd forgotten about that! I owned a few British cars...most had leather seats that far outlasted the cars they where in.
Had an Austin A-40, a Hillman (Manx ?), a Triumph TR3A a Morris Minor, an Austin Mini and a few Vauxhauls (yukk).
The Austin A-40, ha, I picked up a fat hippy chick at the bottom of a steep hill once. Almost had to get her to help push up the hill. These where not made for mountain roads!
The little Hillman sort of looked like a mini Rolls Royce. Was a good little car that wouldn't start in the winter.
The Vauxhauls where horrid little cars.
Nobody else wanted these things so I used to buy them for $20 to $30.
Just about all of them had rotted out gas tanks. Good thing gas was only 46 cents a gallon.

Evan
02-28-2006, 08:36 AM
I've had or driven (and repaired!) quite a few british cars. My first car was a Morris Minor 1000. I also had an MGA, TR4, the Austin, another Morris Minus, and drove many more that were sort of joint ownership of me and a friend including a really cool AC Bristol with right drive. That was the predecessor to the AC Cobra. Also drove a Sunbeam Tiger for a while with Ford 289. Seriously overpowered little car.

Our (wife and me) favorite though was our 1967 MGB. That was our second car which I sold in order to buy the airplane.

Steve Stube
02-28-2006, 11:38 AM
Torker, if you used the spin cycle contacts won't you loose traction in reverse?

Fasttrack
02-28-2006, 04:45 PM
Very nice! Sound's like my kind of truck; low cost, parts made by hand or you do with out! (it's not like brakes are that important anyway...j/k) Seriously though good idea. I just bought an old chevy, infact i think you've chimmed in on some of my early posts w/ questions about my truck; i have a feeling i'll be asking alot of questions! hope you don't mind sharing your expierences and knowledge!!

Your Old Dog
02-28-2006, 05:01 PM
You got any ice in your driveway? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Evan
02-28-2006, 05:06 PM
Bad dog! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif It's ice all the way home right now and I have to drive on a winding mountain road to get to and from work. Good thing I have 4x4.

torker
02-28-2006, 05:54 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Steve Stube:
Torker, if you used the spin cycle contacts won't you loose traction in reverse?</font>
LMAO!!! Damm that was funny! Now I have a good excuse if(make that when) I get stuck http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Fastrack...I've made lots of parts on this truck. I sorta took everything I've ever hated about a vehicle and made it better or easier to work on.
All the poly engine/tranny mounts all have grease nipples, the shifters I made all have grease nipples, put 16 guage floors in it, sealed with metal and weld most areas that previously rusted out, cheap Chevy power/tranny/t-case etc, the whole truck is coated in POR 15 underneath,inside the frame, inside the doors, inside the fenders, the floors etc. The floors are also covered with 1/8" of boxliner coating.
New window rubbers, etc etc etc. The only things that aren't rebuilt yet are the diffs. They are next...Aussie locker in the rear and ARB air locker in front.
Worse part...I'm almost afraid some old bat or a drunk will wipe it out the first time it hits the road http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Russ

dicks42000
02-28-2006, 06:33 PM
Hey Evan;
So that explains the fascination for Land Rovers....? All those British cars, some are probably worth money now.
Which brings to mind the Cessna 140...OK did you sell it to some guy near Vancouver who has it on floats in Richmond now? A bit under powered for much more than a 1 seater on floats, but that little plane is worth more now than it sold for. Did it have red leather seats ? Nice plane if it had the metal wings...
Rick

Evan
02-28-2006, 06:46 PM
It was CF-VIW. It wasn't on floats and would need a little more than the 85hp Continental it had. Might work with an 0-200. I paid $2600 for it in 74. It's now worth over $20,000 US if in the same condition.

The fabric wings are better than metal with modern fabric like Ceconite. It's smoother than metal and slightly lighter. Cruise speed is several knots higher with fabric and the big plus is it doesn't corrode when based near salt water. Fabric life with Dacron and proper coatings is at least 20 years or much more if hangered.

http://vts.bc.ca/pics/c140.jpg

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Fasttrack
02-28-2006, 09:26 PM
"All the poly engine/tranny mounts all have grease nipples, the shifters I made all have grease nipples, put 16 guage floors in it, sealed with metal and weld most areas that previously rusted out, cheap Chevy power/tranny/t-case etc, the whole truck is coated in POR 15 underneath,inside the frame, inside the doors, inside the fenders, the floors etc. The floors are also covered with 1/8" of boxliner coating.
New window rubbers, etc etc etc. The only things that aren't rebuilt yet are the diffs. They are next...Aussie locker in the rear and ARB air locker in front.
Worse part...I'm almost afraid some old bat or a drunk will wipe it out the first time it hits the road
Russ "

Dang! Sounds like your the guy to buy a used truck from http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

wierdscience
02-28-2006, 10:22 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by torker:

Originally posted by Steve Stube:
Torker, if you used the spin cycle contacts won't you loose traction in reverse?</font>
LMAO!!! Damm that was funny! Now I have a good excuse if(make that when) I get stuck http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Fastrack...I've made lots of parts on this truck. I sorta took everything I've ever hated about a vehicle and made it better or easier to work on.
All the poly engine/tranny mounts all have grease nipples, the shifters I made all have grease nipples, put 16 guage floors in it, sealed with metal and weld most areas that previously rusted out, cheap Chevy power/tranny/t-case etc, the whole truck is coated in POR 15 underneath,inside the frame, inside the doors, inside the fenders, the floors etc. The floors are also covered with 1/8" of boxliner coating.
New window rubbers, etc etc etc. The only things that aren't rebuilt yet are the diffs. They are next...Aussie locker in the rear and ARB air locker in front.
Worse part...I'm almost afraid some old bat or a drunk will wipe it out the first time it hits the road http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Russ



Hahaha...Russ did you put zerks on the ashtray slides? http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Like the switch,you should send a picture of that to GM,then maybe they will FINALLY make a switch that is worth damn http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

My personal favorite was the Chevy blower switch,you could fart next to one and burn it out http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

Good thing you candy coated it,might stop the "Chevy lace" from forming.

torker
02-28-2006, 10:51 PM
Darin...lol! Nope...never thought of "ashtray zerks" http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
You're right about the Chevy switches. Both my old Chevies...the blower switch and the wiper switches are hooped. Have been for years. I've taken them apart, this dryer switch is three times as heavy as theirs.
This is all going on that ol' Yota. It had "lace" also...worse than a Chevy http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif (if you can imagine that)

Kansas_Farmer
03-01-2006, 09:09 AM
Amen Torker, that's how I grew up too. Ya want it, ya make it, if ya can't make it, do without or find another way.

Fasttrack
03-01-2006, 09:07 PM
Once again i ask you to forgive my newbieness, but what is meant by "chevy lace" ? Rust i guess?

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wierdscience
03-01-2006, 10:18 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Fasttrack:
Once again i ask you to forgive my newbieness, but what is meant by "chevy lace" ? Rust i guess?

[This message has been edited by Fasttrack (edited 03-01-2006).]</font>

Yup,when what used to be there is now mostly air http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif much like all matter in the universe,old Chevy sheetmetal is mostly empty space http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

darryl
03-01-2006, 11:15 PM
A Hillman, I remember those. I knew a guy that had a 283 in a Hillman. Another seriously overpowered car.
I used to drive an english ford van called Thames. It looked like it would tip over just sitting there. I cooked the tranny three times before I wasn't allowed to drive it anymore. All of 35 hp and it would do the quarter in 47 seconds, don't remember the speed. Does 42 mph sound about right?
I could get it to pop the front wheels off the ground though, as long as two people hung off the back doors. Had lots of fun with it.

torker
03-01-2006, 11:43 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by darryl:
Does 42 mph sound about right?
</font>
LMAO!!! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Ya, that sounds about right. Would have been slower if you would have had a fat hippy chick in it http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

chado
03-06-2006, 10:45 AM
After reading all these great post made me think back to the late sixties when I had a VW bug with a bad starter. After the wife refused to push it one more time to get it started I was able to attach a pulley to it and wind a rope around it and pull start it. Was a big hit in Lake of the Ozarks that year on vacation.