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12-25-2002, 09:30 AM
This topic has come up in past threads and if it is old news I apologize for interrupting your meatloaf dinner so here goes FWIW. The 12/24/02 issue of the Wall Street Journal in the Personal Section pg.D1 had an article titled 'No More Finger Pricks: New Gadgets Let People Monitor Diabetes Digitally.' (Their choice of words.)
Enjoy your Holidays and keep the humor comming.
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Strewth Thrud!! Is 'e givin you the finger??
12-26-2002, 04:31 AM
Maybe he is a proctologist! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
You actually read the WSJ? I would have to drive across the city to get it and they do not have nay other magazines I like, so it will wait (til' hell freezth overth). I check on one system that was noted last time, and it is not approved for Canada yet. It was an electrochemical device, the one I want is strictly electronic,
12-26-2002, 09:11 AM
Read? I look at the pictures. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
I can scan the article and e-mail it to you if your interested?
12-27-2002, 01:03 AM
Thanks for the thought, but I just want to know when the non-intrusive, non-chemical, no supplies required unit hits the market. I am tired of making other people filthy rich with my hard earned funds when the evil bastards just want to milk the market as much as they can before they have to release it.
12-27-2002, 09:38 PM
Thrud, Just watch your DIET and BLOOD PRESSURE and everything will be O.K.
Al, a fellow diabetic
12-28-2002, 04:01 AM
BP is 100/60. diet is another matter. It does not help that my body occasionaly decides to go nuts making insulin - then I crash and burn bad. It can take a gallon of apple juice to get my sugar back to normal when I do not have Gucagon kits handy. so much for the diet. I am slowly losing weight - the doctors like that better.
My doctor makes me go to the metabolic clinic to show the skinny pukes that if a big fat bastard can do it they can too. They usually get to see a crash at least once, and they never believe my sugars are "normal" when theirs are 4 times higher.
BTW - one "Turtle"= 1 slice of buttered bread http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//rolleyes.gif
12-30-2002, 10:09 PM
Thrud... at 100/65, are you alive? I've never had mine that low, 135/90 or so with a few heart problems. PS my wife knows what I paid for the shop tools, and what they are worth used!!
BTW I do appreciate all the good advice you have given the past year, Thank You.
And a Happy New Year!!!
12-31-2002, 12:50 AM
It makes standing up quickly a real rush sometimes and lurching at doctors throats is all but impossible now (no doubt all part of their evil plan). And no, I am not dead - yet...
And the grocery boys look funny at me when the big gorilla wants help with his grocery bags - I have to explain to them that I have problems lifting heavy weights - which makes taking a leak difficult... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif (nyuk! nyuk! they don't get it...)
01-01-2003, 05:54 PM
Not to make light of Diabetes, but I get exposed to it on both ends of my jobs. As a paramedic of course I see more that my share, and so far all with good outcomes.
But as a machinist at a factory, I got called twice now to " assist" with known diabeteics acting " strange"...My coworker is an average sized gent in fair shape, and he was (literally) climbing over the tops of toolboxes and then kicking them over after he had scaled them, one right after another. Now as you all can expect, this didn't set well with the owners of those toolboxes, and when one decied to put a stop to it, well he got kicked over too. ( right in the nose, broken). So now the powers that be decided that I should come out to play. Anarcty and chaos decribe the scene well. After it was all said and done, the machinist was calmed and cured with a can of cola, and he had to clean up his mess.(As you can imagine, he was embarressed, as were the rest of us.)Mr. Broken nose never really forgave him but he has managed to put it in the past.
The second time was with a BIG guy who just started walking around looking at the different machines and tripping emergency stops trying to see inside the machines.We found him sitting against the last one stareing at a piece of swarf. Wouldn't talk to anybody and sqirted the tube of gulcose on the saftey director( Inside I was laughing, I TOLD him NOT to let the machinist hold the tube)Finially, I had to have my friends from the ambulance give him a IV jump start.
Now I wonder is this in the average machinist's work decription?
Take care, and thanks for letting me share the story.
01-02-2003, 12:28 AM
Every time I crash, I experience something different. Only once did I get extremely nasty - but I knew what was happening somehow and chugged a 2L coke down (the 7-11 manager thought I was shop lifting and not going to pay for it - called the cops on me and I had to do a blood test right there to keep from getting a ride downtown) and was fine in a few minutes. It freaks people out when you switch like a light that way.
I have been in metabolic clinics with the Doctor & nurses, had my blood sugar tested and five minutes later drop from 7 to 1.2mmol/l. They think my body suddenly decides it wants to make insulin or that I have changing sensitivity to the insulin (for some reason).
I will tell you one thing, you never want to go into Lactic Acidosis and have your kidneys and liver shut down. My legs burned for months after that. That sucks. I wanted to slam "Big Ed" in the door just so I would not feel my legs anymore! (Ouch http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//eek.gif )
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01-05-2003, 02:48 AM
THRUD: Man can I understand! Today I went from 465 to 60 in about two hours. I buy glucose tablets from Wal-Mart for about $5.00 a bottle and I carry a tube with eight tablets with me at all times. I have decided that crashing is far worse for me than too high so whenever I feel funny in any way I pop a tablet or two just for safety sake. Diabetes is such a funny/weird disease as you well know. My brother Brian has type 2 also and what works for him doesn't work the same way for me. I tip the "light fantastic" at 347 lbs. and I plan to get back to eating air and drinking water soon. My oldest daughter had the operation where the stomach is reduced in size and the small intestine is shortened by a bunch to a semi-colon ;-). That is far too radical for me for now but it works. I tell people that "if I had known that I was going to live this long I would have eaten far less" Best wishes to all of my brothers out there. WALT WARREN
01-05-2003, 05:38 AM
I do not have to pay for my Glucagon injections (I have three on my desk as I type) which is good - they are $38 each! Fastest way to bring the sugars back up though. I keep Coke, apple juice, and apricot juice in the house which is also my liquid diet when I am too sick for real food.
I am slowly losing weight, lost 25 lbs. last time I was at my specialist. He has a truck scale (not really, but you can run a wheel chair onto it!) for those of us that are "gravitationally challenged".
If you want to stop over eating, everytime you start to think about it have someone kick you in the knackers real hard. In no time the mere thought of black and blue family jewels will have you trained for life - or rolling in pain... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
01-05-2003, 09:19 PM
Thrud, if you are suffering from diabetic neuropathy (burning, tingling numbenss in extremities...not Big Ed), i may be able to help.
I am a podiatrist in connecticut with a special interest in "maintenance and repair" (to put it in machinists terms) of diabetic feet. Some meds that help are:
1) Neurontin (a prescription)
2) primrose oil tabs and vit B6 supplements (OTC)
Email if you need more info or a RX
You have given so much great info on this board that id really like to retunr the favor
01-05-2003, 10:08 PM
Email me and I will tell you what happened to me. It is rather involved and too boring for the BBS, but you may be interested in what happened.
01-05-2003, 11:37 PM
AW COMMON TELL US. ( just wondering as mom also has it)
01-07-2003, 03:47 AM
I am not a doctor. I can tell them what is wrong with me (and it pisses them off how good I am without tests) - but I will not tell your mother what to do. Try to find a doctor that listens - they may hear a lot of whiners day in and day out, but not everyone is like that, damn it.
I will tell you this, have a positive attitude and try to laugh as much as possible - you will be amazed what those two things can cure. (Believe)
01-07-2003, 11:19 AM
I vigorously concur with Thrud on the relevance of mental/emotional attitude! In many situations that is not just 'A' factor... it is 'THE' factor.
For anyone interested in better understanding just why that is so, I highly recommend either or both of two books by Dr. John E. Sarno: 1) Healing Back Pain, and/or 2) Mindbody Prescription. From first hand experience I KNOW his ideas are correct!!!!! Likewise I KNOW it applies to more than just back/sciatic pain. (Dr. Sarno is a professor and attending physician at New York University and the Howard Rusk hospital. His ideas diverge somewhat from most of the medical world. The main difference however, is that his therapy actually works!!! ...even thru his books!!!)
01-08-2003, 02:10 AM
Want to know my quick IQ test for Doctors?
Q: What is the difference between an oral and rectal thermometer?
Stunned Answer: A detailed description of each or either type. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//rolleyes.gif
Intelligent Answer: The Taste... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
Usual answer: How would I know? I stir my coffee with what ever is handy... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//eek.gif
01-09-2003, 10:41 AM
Thrud, i dont know your email address and ive been really busy with a bunch of diabetic feet, of all things. As soon as it get cold and the holidays roll around (ie blood sugars really high) the problems start. No nned for too much detail on that point, though.
There is a book about neuropathy called
"Numb toes and aching soles" which is really terrific. A lot of people with neuropathy think they are crazy until they read this book (probably because there DOctors tell them so). Anyhow, this book tells about a lot of the symptoms as well as many treatments, both traditional and alternative.
01-10-2003, 03:04 AM
The problem with my feet is blood clots in both calves, a smashed disc, and a broken back. After I went numb from the waist down the day after a car accident it has been all downhill.
It has advantages though - I can peel my toe nails off with pliers and I don't even wince. It is my only hobby since no one will Roshambo with me for beers anymore - I never lose! http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
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01-10-2003, 11:53 PM
I am not a diabetic but in the travels of trying fight colds and stuff I heard that the herb Fenugreek is good at regulating blood sugar...maybe research it?
01-11-2003, 04:16 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, but when you take 17 serious medications (plus Humalog and NPH) herbs and vitamins can interefere with the fine balance. I have to take blood tests all the time to insure the levels are correct and it is working quite well - I have improved substantially from 1999 (still in deep poo though...)
Control is a big issue, and my body does wierd things so I try not to rock the boat with chemicals that may cause problems. For instance, Grapefruit can radically change uptake on certain drugs and is not served in hospitals here any longer because of potential problems.
01-14-2003, 07:42 PM
Yikes that's a mit full to swallow...literally
hope things stay balanced for ya then
01-15-2003, 11:24 AM
I had a patient who was taking 51 pills a day....he said it was like a G** D*** buffet every morning!
01-15-2003, 05:19 PM
I dated a girl who had one of the first electronic injection units. It monitored and administered. Funny, she had a lil tube ran into her belly, wasn't hooked or attached in any way and could be pulled out pretty easily.
Before the new deal, she had mood swings, acted strange at times and had to monitor 3-4 times a day.
She was employed at Olin chemical, they had great insurance and I don't know the cost.
01-16-2003, 04:33 AM
Yes, I sometimes have to take that many if the pain sucks. Sometimes they make me make me sick - my mouth starts to water and if I don't eat something fast I barf for 1/2 an hour.
Still taste better than "Grape Nuts" (cereal made from real rock http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//eek.gif ) though.
Say, when your patients inject insulin do any of them complain of the taste of metallic zinc in their mouths on the instant of injection? Or am I the only one? It is like licking the case of a carbon-zinc battery. (I was 5 and bored...)
01-16-2003, 05:29 PM
Roshambo, who dat? Jostled my memory though, about my friend Joe. Met Joe in '74 at a New Years Party on a lake; when everyone else went in to get schnockered Joe and I were still out skating. When we finally got tired and were pulling our skates off, he pulled off his legs too! Both of them. I had no clue. Lost them as a teenager jumping a train (missed) Anyway, I went up to Chicago and we went bar hopping. Ended up at a biker bar, pretty tough looking crowd, and Joe starts challenging these guys to a shin kickin' contest, just to see how tough they really are. He lets them go first naturally, and hops around in pain after each go-round. Some of these boys wearing the pointy cowboy boots too. But ultimately they declared him the winner. I thought I was going to pee myself I laughed so hard. So Thrud, is peeing yourself while a couple dumsh8ts (buy a vowel) kick each other in the shins anything like 'Roshambo?'
Just lost my dad in August to diabetes. I thought he was going to disappear first, but a massive stroke finished him. Just so's ya know's I am not insensitive to the thread; you just made me think of Crazy Joe.
01-16-2003, 09:03 PM
A common side effect of tricyclic antidepressants (amytriptylene, nortriptylene) is a metallic taste. Never heard of it with insulin though. i asked my wife (a nurse at a Veterans hospital) and she'd never heard of that either. I guess you are the only one(?)
01-19-2003, 04:21 AM
Roshambo is where we kick each other in the testicles until someone quits. You take turns, have to stand there and take it like a man, and if you run away - you loose. Whoever is left standing - wins! These boneheads would always say - "I get to go first". I would say - OK. They would say "What do mean I can go first?" Take your best shot bozo - then its my turn... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif
I do not smoke, or do recreational drugs. I will occasionally guzzle beer (every blue moon) - just because. I am fairly sensitive to chemicals since the Latic Acidosis - maybe this is the reason. It is definately a funky taste.