Help! How heavy is a Cincinatti Mill?

[uniiqueuser]

Hi, just put a deposit on a Cincinatti XXMM11 Vertical Mill. I need to know how heavy this unit is, which will determine transport arrangements. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[JS]

Do you have a picture??

[uniiqueuser]

Thanks for you reply.

I haven't got a picture, but I have since found out that the XXMM11 was actually not the model number.

I had another look, and it appears to be a 1956 Cincinatti 2M Vertical.

The storeman had a look and he reckons it weighs about a ton, which I tend to agree with, as opposed to the no-grime-under-fingernails-salesman who reckons nearly three tons.

[beckley23]

Listen to the no-grime-under- fingernails salesman.
Harry

[JS]

I bent a pallet jack moving my mill . lol and it is a number 2 cincinatti . the jack was rated at 5000#

[uniiqueuser]

Thanks for your help guys.

I have re-estimated the wieght after I saw this machine, which is very similar to the one I'm getting:

http://www.zhongyang-engrg.com/catalog/me9592.htm

I achieved the moving of a Colchester Triumph (about 1.2 ton) by myself with a tandem hire trailer and a chain block.

Looks like the mill is 2.5 ton. It has a high centre of gravity, and if I attempted to lift this on the beams in the garage it would collapse (even after I strengthened it).

I'm going to do it properly and hire a crane truck and/or forklift. I'll let you know how it goes.

[This message has been edited by uniiqueuser (edited 12-02-2005).]

[jkilroy]

That baby is easy 5000. When you rent a lift make sure and tell them you have a working weight of 3 tons. A little bit of overhead is a good thing in case you are forced to work with a less than ideal situation. If at all possible get some *good* straps and lift it from above, always a safer alternative. (By good I mean give yourself a 100% safety factor, get some straps good for 6 tons) These metal monsters can slide around on steel forks like you would not expect or like. I have 'enjoyed' quite a bit of recent experience moving two Kearney Treckers, the lightest weighing a tad less than 4 tons.

Take your time and go slow and keep the load as close to the ground as possible. NEVER put anything under the load you don't want to smush flat. Stay out of the way and think before you do anything. If you have access to someone that is comfortable moving heavy items by all means buy them dinner. I worked on the docks in Baton Rouge for years and drive a forklift better than a car, but I still respect large hunks of iron and fear getting smushed. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//biggrin.gif

[uniiqueuser]

Thanks for your help guys. The Cincinnatti has been safely moved and installed into the garage. I hired a crane truck which came with a forklift, and these guys (two brothers) were a very slick unit, and very professional. By some people's standards they were a little expensive but I thought they were worth every cent.

Now I just have to get three phase and some tooling.... http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net//wink.gif

I got some photos if you are interested. Am I able to post them here? I am a member of some other forums if this is easier.

[This message has been edited by uniiqueuser (edited 12-26-2005).]

[rockrat]

Post them here. We would love to see them.
rock-