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John Stevenson
05-07-2006, 08:58 PM
Well just got back from the Harrogate ME show in the north of the UK, three day show covering Fri, Sat and Sunday but I was there from Thursday to help setup.
Two halls, one mainly trade stands and the second more trade stands, model suppliers and the models themselves.

Covered every type of model from small O gauge up to 7-1/4" gauge, aircraft and model boats.
Plenty of stationary engines both steam and hot air.

Photo's to follow later, bit knackered at the moment [ 1.00 am ] but small taster:-

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0371.jpg

Door admissions around 23,000 visitors over the three days.

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malbenbut
05-08-2006, 06:48 AM
I went to the Harrogate show on Friday. The weather was excellent. I could not get near trade stands as they were three people deep and I was pushed and buffeted by inconsiderate people with large shoulder bags. I saw one person sneak something into his pocket on one stand.
Most off the club stands were very good but I did notice the lack of young people (under the age of 40) but that may be because I attended on a weekday but I noticed the same last year and that was on a Sunday. I wish I had a couple of Schrader valves fitted to my feet to let the swelling down I am sure my feet had swollen 2 shoe sizes with all the walking I did. I am pleased it is only on once a year as I will need the 12 months to recover.
MBB

John Stevenson
05-08-2006, 08:33 AM
Radio controlled walking dragline doing shifting muck demo's.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0374.jpg

One of the two stands displaying hot air engines.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0380.jpg



Just a few of the model boats.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0407.jpg

The boat pool.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0408.jpg


More later as I sort them.
Hard to get pics of the overall hall layout and trade stands as it was so crowded and you really needed to be above to see it all.

Everything covered from mini lathes and mills up to 14 x 40 lathes and Bridgy type clones.

Stands selling tooling form small drills up to collet chucks and sets, dividing heads, grinders, complete DRO's and loads more, I don't think anything was missed.

Over in the model hall there were stands selling craft bits, metal stock, casting kits, motors and some CNC kits.

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Al Messer
05-08-2006, 09:37 AM
Thanks for posting, John. You LUCKY bloke!!

John Stevenson
05-08-2006, 09:48 AM
Al,
Not that lucky as I was working, Friday started at 9:15 and finished at 6:15 without ever leaving the stand so no time to get round and see the exhibits, same on Saturday but a bit easier on Sunday.
Had to do what bit of shopping I did before the show opened to the public.
Only bought a couple of sets of number punches, set of allen keys, a INT 30 drill chuck, small LED light and a pair of wire cutters all weekend.

JCHannum
05-08-2006, 04:56 PM
That is an interesting contrast to the shows we have here. I just got a letter from NAMES, the show had over 2,400 paid attendance, about 260 exhibitors and 61 vendor/businesses.

The shows here are model engineering only, and very few large vendors, or manufacturers attend. Logan lathes was there, as was Little Machine Shop. Most of the others were selling used tools & tooling and castings & model supplies.

I don't know how attendance compared to previous years, it may have been off slightly due to the new location and gas prices, but I suspect it is representative.

Keeping in mind that NAMES is in its 17th year, and Harrowgate is in its 76th year adds some perspective.

Another consideration is that NAMES is a non profit organization, and is all volunteer.

John Stevenson
05-08-2006, 05:55 PM
Limited to 4 pic's per post so these 4 are of the layout as best I could get.
Crap Fuji camera [ spit, spit ] and short of time so no Evan masterpiece.

Top half of model hall.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0382.jpg

Bottom half

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0384.jpg

Top corner of trade hall.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0386.jpg

Bottom Corner

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/files/DSCF0387.jpg

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John Stevenson
05-08-2006, 06:15 PM
Jim,
I think the difference is more down to geography.
The UK is tiny compared to the US so we have more ME's per square mile that the US.
Distance also plays a part.
We have 6 main shows per year with about 250 miles max between each but many people won't travel and only go to the show nearest to them.
Harrogate is 200 miles from London where there are two shows per year but not may will travel to them.

Our shows are run for profit, trade stands pay from 250 UKP at a smaller provincial show for a single side stand up to 5K for a main stand in the large hall so they need bodies thru the doors to afford this.

Club stands for models are free. Some of the larger ones, traction engines etc even get some payment to come and entertain the crowds.

The larger trade stands take about 4 to 5 days at base to prepare, move to the shows in 18 wheelers, employ anything from 4 to 9 staff who have to stay 4 days in hotels, meals etc and then another couple of days to unload / restock back at base.
Many don't break even but they have to go to show the flag as they are also mail order the rest of the year.

Last year the Pickering show was the first for that area, new show and not a move. Rather rushed as the building wasn't even finished on time and we had to run off three large generators on site.
Poorly advertised due to not knowing if it would be on but they managed about 9,000 thu the doors over three days.
They are hoping to get about 16,000 to 18,000 this year.

When they used to only have one London show at Wembley they could get 30,000 over three days but it used to get really crowded, better now they have spit it up to two shows.

Alistair Hosie
05-08-2006, 06:50 PM
Why no pics of your self John camera shy eh:DAlistair

John Stevenson
05-08-2006, 07:50 PM
No you silly man I'm standing BEHIND it

charlie coghill
05-08-2006, 09:33 PM
John, for what it is worth using photobucket and posting a link to it would let you show more pic. than the four that is alowed on the BB.

Maybe you don't have access over the pond or don't want to. Just a suggestion.
Good pic. I enjoyed them.

John Stevenson
05-09-2006, 05:16 AM
Charlie, yes we do have access and I have an account somewhere.
I'll upload the rest later today and post the link.
To be honest many are blurred as I was rushing around and not taking enough care.
I'll still post them as thy give an overall view but I'll have to get new batteries for my old Sony camera, this Fuji is rubbish, unless it's really bright daylight the low light icon comes on and when that's on it can't autofocus.
The old Sony can take a picture inside a dustbin without flash.
Problem is batteries are over £40 here [ $70 ] and about $29 in the US.
Just need to get a couple organised.

Alistair Hosie
05-09-2006, 07:48 AM
No you silly man I'm standing BEHIND it
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Hey lord john I don't suppose it occured to you that it was feasable to turn the camera towards your moosh and click too complicated or what:D yourpal Alistair