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Alistair Hosie
08-19-2006, 04:11 PM
This is my friend Fred's new or old shaper it is quite small about 2/3s size of the boxford about eighteen inches or so high it bears no name but has a square door cover over the bull wheel can anyone identify this little gem Fred is dying to know.regards Alistair

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/tybachdai/4fce795c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/tybachdai/247a85c0.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/tybachdai/452497c0.jpg

winchman
08-19-2006, 04:49 PM
What's it say on the red piece screwed to the square door?

Roger

ammcoman2
08-19-2006, 06:55 PM
I don't recognize it ( I have an Ammco 6") but perhaps if you browse the Tony Griffiths' site http://www.lathes.co.uk/ you may come up with something.


Regards,

Geoff

Al Messer
08-19-2006, 07:03 PM
Is it possible that this was a project for a Machine Shop Class? I have seen one that was made by a Trade School in Birmingham.

speedy
08-20-2006, 08:07 AM
Alistair, maybe it is a "Corbetts" 6" shaper? `Tis a bit hard to tell but if you look hard enough the table slots look similar as does the vertical handwheel at the base...so maybe? ( as much as all shapers look similar)
Sorry but it is the only image that I have. It is from an auction that I was going to bid on but I relented.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/speeedy/Corbetts6inchshaper.jpg

Norman Atkinson
08-20-2006, 08:27 AM
My betting is on an Atlas or Acorn.
Same thing.

If I am right, Alistair, it is the one in Ian Bradley's book, the Shaping Machine by Tee Publishing. Lots of info.

Keep well, old lad

Norm

Alistair Hosie
08-20-2006, 12:30 PM
No speedy thanks that shaper is too large this thing can be picked up by a strong man I know that as I loaded it into the car and out again for fred Norm I will check but I looked through all of tonys site and found nothing I am thinking it is made by alocal foundry Alistair ps the badge is a Glasgow machine sipplier

Al Messer
08-20-2006, 01:59 PM
I don't know how it was on your side of the Atlantic, but a number of years ago, there was someone in the U.S. making and selling casting kits for making a small Shaper that was about 2/3 the size of a 7" Atlas or South Bend. Question: is the Glasgow machine supplier you mention still in business, or are their old industrial records still available that would catalogue the products they offered??

Alistair Hosie
08-20-2006, 03:27 PM
Glasgow firm is Fyfe and mcGrouther still in business Alistair

YankeeMetallic
08-20-2006, 09:00 PM
I think small shapers are neat. I first thought of Atlas but all of their Bull doors are round or have rounded corners.
E-mail this guy. He is a pro at identifying shapers. Send him the pics or the URL for the pics. He will probably have an answer within a day:
KayPatFisher@Yahoo.com

Optics Curmudgeon
08-20-2006, 11:05 PM
Definitely not an Atlas, or its relatives. Other than being a shaper, it bears no resemblance. Dovetail ways on this one, all of the Atlas ways are square. Different table and support, different crossfeed scheme. Very cute little machine, I'd like to find one myself. The vise is interesting, looks like a swivel base quick-lock drill press vise. Not surprised that it would show up in Britain, the cradle of HSM.

Joe

John Stevenson
08-21-2006, 04:40 AM
The vise is a modern Chinese import and not suited for shaper work at all.
What you can't see in the picture is the fixed jaw is supported only on the two cast side runners so the fixed jaw is joined to the rest by two pieces about 1-1/2" wide and 1/2" deep in cast iron.

These are quick action vises for light work and not for heavy or intermittent loads that a shaper produces.

.

Optics Curmudgeon
08-21-2006, 08:21 AM
To clarify, I'm not surprised that the shaper would show up in Britain, not the vise. I agree, John, it's not an appropriate shaper vise.

Joe

speedy
09-07-2006, 08:50 AM
Alistair, were you able to determine the identity of your friends shaper?