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Tin Falcon
12-26-2006, 04:12 PM
Guys:
Christmas day my brother was over for dinner. We were browsing the Internet craftsmanship museum. I was looking at a miniature bicyle and asked what would be used for chain on somthing that small.The wheels were about the diameter of a quarter. He said fusee chain. I had never heard of it . It is somthing for clocks and watches. a google search revealed an article in the Horilogical Journal Nov 04 editon on how to make the stuff. it is a pdf file 5 pages.
http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/November%2004%20AoM.PDF
So if anyone has the need or desire to make there own minature roller type chain you have the link.
Regards
Tin

Mcgyver
12-26-2006, 06:01 PM
saved that one, in case my obsessive compulsive workshop sickness becomes more serious :D thank for the link

Peter S
12-26-2006, 09:34 PM
For a few years now Camden Books have been advertising a booklet "The Chain Makers" by White, 48 pages, published by Christchurch Local Historical Society - "The story of a lost industry that used women and children in Hampshire and Dorset making a tiny watch and clock component at the risk of their eyesight...." The component was the tiny fusee chain, and manufacture began in 1730 and went to end of 19th century. The industry was mostly home based, mostly women and children, especially children from Workhouses. The finest chains could be threaded through the eye of a needle. (Extracts from the Camden blurb)

However...I have never bought this booklet, so can't vouch for its contents. It says there is a description of the chain making, but there is also a record of who the manufacturers were, which is maybe not so interesting.

The Horilogical Journal looks interesting, but hardly the tiny chains that these workers of old were making, and I suspect their 'tooling' was slightly more primitive?

PTSideshow
12-26-2006, 10:20 PM
another keeper,stock drive parts had reall small drive chain. can't find the bookmark for the site. Small parts might have something.http://www.smallparts.com/
This site has some small drive stuff http://www.AllElectronics.com/
Thanks Tin

Joe H
12-27-2006, 10:58 AM
Tin Falcon,

Thanks for the link to that excellent article. Fusee chain was used in clocks and watches to transfer the power from the spring barrel to the fusee which provided the power to the clock mechanism. It was a constant torque mechanism designed to transfer the variable spring power to the clock drive as a constant torque. Used mainly in English clocks and watches from the late 1600's to the mid 1900's.

Joe

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e86/joez52/FuseeClock2023.jpg

pmned
02-12-2013, 05:53 PM
revealed an article in the Horilogical Journal Nov 04 editon on how to make the stuff. it is a pdf file 5 pages.
http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/November%2004%20AoM.PDF
So if anyone has the need or desire to make there own minature roller type chain you have the link.
Regards
Tin

Hello Tin

The link is not working anymore. Do you still have this PDF. Would be much appriciated if you could send me this. Regards. Patrick

mikech
07-16-2018, 11:06 AM
revealed an article in the Horilogical Journal Nov 04 editon on how to make the stuff. it is a pdf file 5 pages.
http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/November%2004%20AoM.PDF
So if anyone has the need or desire to make there own minature roller type chain you have the link.
Regards
Tin

Hello Tin

The link is not working anymore. Do you still have this PDF. Would be much appriciated if you could send me this. Regards. Patrick

Hi Patrick/ Tin - if you still have this pdf I would really like to get a copy.
TIA
Mike Chalifoux

old mart
07-16-2018, 12:17 PM
The fusee chain for timepieces is not intended to run over sprockets like roller chain.

mikech
07-16-2018, 01:36 PM
yep - it goes from a tapered fitting to a barrel. I'm looking at some of the earlier mechanical singing bird boxes, and they used this to power the box. Later they went to a more conventional main spring. But the techniques of working with very small parts is very interesting to me.

mikech

Mcgyver
07-16-2018, 09:59 PM
Hi Patrick/ Tin - if you still have this pdf I would really like to get a copy.
TIA
Mike Chalifoux

here you go. Going to the next level is "making a fusee chain for a watch"....maybe that article will have your name on it? :D

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lvAqoIr5wSt3AVtjnqIa-tSqvjITK8Fu/view?usp=sharing

aostling
07-17-2018, 12:57 AM
I never thought there would be another thread on fusees. Here is the first one: http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/23993-Giant-fusee?highlight=giant+fusee. The photograph is at reply #12. Artful Bodger solved he mystery of its function, in a wool press.

mars-red
07-17-2018, 10:45 AM
Interestingly enough, fusee drive can still be found in some modern (and ultra high end) wristwatches. The Breguet Tradition Fusee Tourbillon ( https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hands-on-with-the-breguet-tradition-fusee-tourbillon ) and the Cabestan Winch Tourbillon Vertical ( https://watchismo.blogspot.com/2007/05/cabestan-winch-tourbillon-vertical-for.html ) come to mind.

3 Phase Lightbulb
07-17-2018, 11:12 AM
Guys:
Christmas day my brother was over for dinner. We were browsing the Internet craftsmanship museum. I was looking at a miniature bicyle and asked what would be used for chain on somthing that small.The wheels were about the diameter of a quarter. He said fusee chain. I had never heard of it . It is somthing for clocks and watches. a google search revealed an article in the Horilogical Journal Nov 04 editon on how to make the stuff. it is a pdf file 5 pages.
http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/November%2004%20AoM.PDF
So if anyone has the need or desire to make there own minature roller type chain you have the link.
Regards
Tin

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mikech
07-17-2018, 01:59 PM
Thanks so much ( I think) Mcgyver.
A lot to look at and think about. I think a watch chain can be about .01 thick - that is with 3 links!

Cheers
mike C

Dave C
07-17-2018, 02:17 PM
the link worked for me.