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nheng
12-31-2006, 07:35 PM
Poking around on Google books last week, there seem to be a lot more machining books available for free download of the full book (with images) in .pdf format. They have been scanned by Google (a herculean effort) and are older. For instance, "The Screw-Cutting Lathe" has a 1907 publication date, putting it in public domain.

Still, lots of interesting stuff is available in those books ... occasionally I find an old way of doing something new :)

An early and belated Happy New Year to all the great people on this forum around the world !

Den

Paul Alciatore
12-31-2006, 11:00 PM
And I bought "Screw Cutting on the Lathe". Oh well, I like books.

Dawai
01-01-2007, 10:21 AM
Yes, the knowledge junkie I am, I downloaded about 100meg of books last night alone.

thanks. AND, I can enlarge to my hearts content with my sony lcd.. try that with a book.

NOW, if I could convert all that into plain text and let the "natural speak" talk them into a mp3 file for a cdrom or my necklace player.

nheng
01-01-2007, 11:39 AM
David, is that the Sony reader? I played with one for a few minutes at a Borders before Christmas. Looked pretty good but a bit pokey. You've gotta give up something for battery life. Holding all that reading material in a wafer thin format will be the drawing force to its success.

If you can determine the intermediate image format used by cheap scanners for their OCR programs you might be able to go from .pdf --> image --> text. It would be paperless but also tedious without something to "page" the .pdf into image files.

You don't really want to listen to gear ratios or trig equations read out to you though, do ya ? :)

Den

Evan
01-01-2007, 01:54 PM
Tell me more about the Sony Reader. How did you find the display? Would it be suitable for extended reading?

nheng
01-01-2007, 04:25 PM
My 5 minute impression, and I'm sure David has more, is that the display was easy on the eyes, adequate contrast, high enough resolution and total absence of any sort of flicker or beat with the store lighting. I'm a fusspot and I think I could live with it. Should have played with brightness as it could have used a bit more but in my home, I'd probably have to turn it down. As it was, though, it is probably more like paper than to a light emitting display. The demo had about 12 books in it that I could see, including the DaVinci Code.

My comment on pokey was only in regard to paging. There's a short delay but perhaps that can be played with via some sort of cache control ... nah, not from Sony ;) Den

Alistair Hosie
01-01-2007, 04:27 PM
Please give us a clue to which sites are involved Alistair

nheng
01-01-2007, 04:35 PM
Evan, check this commentary out. You can't get permanent books for it according to this reviewer :eek: :eek:
http://www.dottocomu.com/b/archives/002571.html

Alistair, for the Google books, just go into Google ... more ... books, and sign up with some sort of working email address as you will get your entry key sent to you via that address. Once you're in, just search for a machining phrase. Under the search box are options for results which only include full texts, or all. Den

aboard_epsilon
01-01-2007, 05:43 PM
cant get any of the books you mention off google

finds a page from the book after searching "Screw Cutting on the Lathe"

brings this page up.

http://books.google.com/books?q=Screw+Cutting+on+the+Lathe&btnG=Search+Books&as_brr=0

press on any other the results ...and you get this page etc.

http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC03794549&id=um0JAAAAIAAJ&q=Screw+Cutting+on+the+Lathe&dq=Screw+Cutting+on+the+Lathe&pgis=1


with

"wheres the rest of the book"...you press on that ...

and you get this ...


http://books.google.com/support/


how do go about finding a whole book .or even a sequence of pages from a book.


all the best..mark

Dawai
01-01-2007, 05:53 PM
http://books.google.com/

Just typing in the key words brings up hundreds of books.. do "full" book and it gives you full books only instead of teasers.. sometimes in the full books when they are still for sale? it has some pages blacked out.. but enough to get you interested..

I downloaded about twenty books last night.. there is a button download if it is all available.. then just save as..
http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC05034263&id=wLIJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA140&lpg=PA140&dq=machining&as_brr=1 this should get you started.

Evan
01-01-2007, 06:13 PM
Den,

I have been following the Sony Reader since it was first announced. That review is a couple of years old and Sony has changed their policy re the content. The reader will now allow you to install your own content and will also display PDF files that you provide. This makes it extremely attractive as a portable library and information store.

My main interest is the display quality and how good it seems for extended viewing plus the apparent resolution for diagrams etc.

The page turning is slow because of the e-ink display technology and cannot be speeded up but that doesn't bother me. Battery life is around 7000 page turns since it only uses battery power when the display is changed. Nothing else available can do this, yet.

For a little background, this idea was, as usual, pioneered by Xerox. They have a technology called Gyricon electronic paper which was first researced in the 70s. It can do 200dpi resolution and has similar properties to e-ink (the other way around actually). As far as I know Xerox has not done much to commercialize the idea, again as usual.

This page explains it. The web page hasn't changed in years...
http://www2.parc.com/hsl/projects/gyricon/

aboard_epsilon
01-01-2007, 07:54 PM
http://books.google.com/

Just typing in the key words brings up hundreds of books.. do "full" book and it gives you full books only instead of teasers.. sometimes in the full books when they are still for sale? it has some pages blacked out.. but enough to get you interested..

I downloaded about twenty books last night.. there is a button download if it is all available.. then just save as..
http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC05034263&id=wLIJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA140&lpg=PA140&dq=machining&as_brr=1 this should get you started.


that last link brought up the same things ...still no books to download ...all im seeing is two to three pages here and there ...
how do you work this thing.

Dawai
01-01-2007, 08:12 PM
Aboard:

Ok.. do you have Java enabled? I am running Mepis Linux 6.0 on this one, it works.
Running Ubuntu linux 6.0 on the another machine, it works. Running XP and firefox on another laptop, it also works. Also works on that machine with IE.. Sooooo

I can't stay away.. the lil download button on the sidebar is not always available. Only on some books. You can view thou except for the teaser books with black on some of the pages.

Ya'll.. are so funny.. I got a Sony LCD monitor and naturalreader w/extra voice Crystal .. No Sony reader. Not investigated them. The natural reader is only loaded on the 98 programmer hard drive. Ya got me running a wild machine when you should know I am too darned cheap. I'm still spending the money I made in 2002. CHEAP..

nheng
01-01-2007, 08:38 PM
Mark, Try this after you check Java settings, etc. as David mentioned:

http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC03794549&id=um0JAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA7&lpg=PA7&dq=screw+cutting+lathe&as_brr=1

At the top of the right hand "index" column is a button for download and the estimated file size. If you're not getting it, maybe Google has restricted it geographically.

It appears that the "full view" books do not require login. Limited view books require you to login to view select pages. There are a number of "full view", older books there for the taking.

Evan, the e-ink even supposedly has bleed thru (residual image) just like real paper :) I want one ... for $99 though.

Den

Evan
01-01-2007, 11:45 PM
It appears that there must be some sort of geographical restriction. I can only find full view books from before about 1861 to download.

zopi
01-03-2007, 12:09 AM
Heh...search Corliss Valve Steam Engine...

mother lode.

I love Corliss Valves.

loose nut
01-03-2007, 12:17 PM
Try checking the same book on a different day, two days ago there was no PDF download on a book I looked up and yesterday there was, maybe they are still updating these books.