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rockrat
01-08-2007, 07:33 PM
So I came across this old shotgun that was as loose as a 10 dollar..... well, you know.

So I took a chance and started working on it. Here is what transpired.

Here you can see the slop.

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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/th_mindthegap.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/mindthegap.jpg)

There ended up being multiple issues with this gun. First, the pin that holds the barrel down was worn out from use. It needed either remade or fixed.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/th_second.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/second.jpg)

Next, there is a pin that runs through the hole in the holddown pin (HDP), which moves the HDP when the lock is disengaged. This pin was torn up. It had seen more than a fair bit of use and was grooved badly. Also, the safety was a bit shaky (as is with many older guns) and needed a new pin plus a little cleaning.

As for the HDP, I set up a rig to grind the correct double angle flat on it.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/th_third.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/third.jpg)

More to come.....

rockrat
01-08-2007, 07:38 PM
After the rig was where I wanted it, I welded up the pin with my mig and let it cool slowly in a big coffee can of kitty litter. When it was finished, the weld was soft and workable. I used a file to bring back the general shape of the pin. After the file, I went back to the rig and started to grind the surface.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/th_fourth.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/fourth.jpg)

I stopped far short of what I thought would be good and started to test fit. After a few tries, the pin locked up the barrel nicely. Once this was done, I did a big of heat treating on the HDP with Kasenit. I decided that one dip in the powder would give it enough hardness.

Afterward, it was off to the polishing wheel.

Lastly I replaced the pins in the release mechanism and safety. Ran some snap shells through it and found that one of the firing pins was dragging when the action was being closed. So, off with the one side lock. A little grinding on the pin allowed it to recess into the frame nicely.

Now I have a tight 16gage to play with for a while.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/th_fifth.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/katiecat222/shotgun_repair/fifth.jpg)

It took me most of the day from discovery to finish. I cant imagine that a gun smith would make any money on this type of job. This is no Italian rooster rammer, this thing probably rode a tractor with the feller that bought it new. Couldn’t even find it in the Gun Blue Book.

So lets say that a fellow gets $40.00 hr. 8*40= $320 plus materials. The gun aint worth that. It might be worth $150. So backwards it would be 150/8= $18.75 per hr. But would someone pay $150 to have it fixed? Only if it was grandpa’s favorite and given to the grandkid as a gift.

Oh well, I had fun.
rock-

ProGunOne
01-08-2007, 10:38 PM
Well, It looks good ;)

TECHSHOP
01-09-2007, 03:23 AM
rockrat:

Well, with that wine drinking in the shop photo, I would have figured you to have a little more upscale shotgun.

Well. are you going to use it, or just look at your master work?

Your Old Dog
01-09-2007, 05:51 AM
rockrat:

Well, with that wine drinking in the shop photo, I would have figured you to have a little more upscale shotgun.

Well. are you going to use it, or just look at your master work?

I agree, saw that sine plate in the shop and would have thought it would go along better with a Purdy !!

Doc Nickel
01-09-2007, 06:17 AM
Same goes for the pistol I just worked on. The work was a gift for a family member- I have no FFL and can't do that sort of work for money- but had someone paid a standard shop rate, well, I spent some seven hours on it. 7 x $40/hr is $280, and the gun started out only worth about $350. The finished gun is in no way worth $630- the shorter barrel might be a little more appealing to a buyer, but let's say $400 to $425 max.

Then again, I think we've all spent a day or more fixing some doohickey we could have replaced with a new one for $25. :D

Excellent work, by the way. I've always liked gunsmithing, but hated the paperwork. That's why I eventually went into paintball gunsmithing- just as much fun, way less red tape. :)

Doc.

JCHannum
01-09-2007, 10:19 AM
It is nice work, and rewarding to bring something back to useful condition.

It is difficult to equate the value of work done in a home shop to that done in a for money shop. A gunsmith would have charged the going rate for either project. The customer would have to make the decision whether the result was worth the price.

You cannot put a dollar value on what is done as a hobby, as the time spent is (usually) not at the expense of some money making activity. The project however, can produce a result that does have monetary value. Put the result against the negative monetary gain of a day on the golf course or watching bowl games, and working in the home shop is a much better investment of your time.

Rusty Marlin
01-09-2007, 12:34 PM
A lot of truth there JC. I do have an FFL and do gunsmithing, but more for my own gratification (and a little mad money) more than anything else.
A gun like this would require some soul searching by the owner. I do an estimate and let them figure out if its worth the job or not.

When ever my wife gets to complaining about my time in the shop, I just reach for the golf clubs, amazingly the grousing stops. Good thing I've never had to go through with that threat, I can't play golf to save my butt. LOL

rockrat
01-09-2007, 06:02 PM
rockrat:

Well, with that wine drinking in the shop photo, I would have figured you to have a little more upscale shotgun.

Well. are you going to use it, or just look at your master work?

Ha ha. The dog keeps me hunting. If it were not for her sitting by the door ready to go when I get home, I would probably forget due to everything going on.

I plan to shoot it a bit. Might end up a gift to a family member.

I'll do an FFL and gun repair when I retire. Then I can work out of a little shop and only worry about paying the bills, not trying to make a retirement.

Now I must be off, this Greman Short Hair is needing a bit of scent training and a run. Or she just might be hungry.

Thanks all.
rock-