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sdgrand
01-11-2007, 10:40 AM
Does this version resolve the previous incompatibility-with-Firefox2 problem?

PTSideshow
01-11-2007, 11:28 AM
Don't know about that but somebody posted these links and I nstalled the other PDF and so far I like it with firefox/mozilla http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16464910/
and the link for the new pdf http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php
Haven't tried all the operations that you can do with it but way more than the free version of adobes. :D

Evan
01-11-2007, 11:54 AM
Foxit is far superior to Adobe Reader. It actually makes PDF an almost attractive format. All that is needed now is to get everyone to use the Adobe creator software to optimize PDF files properly.


Unfortunately, a great deal of the PDF content on the web was created with older versions of Adobe Creator that didn't have the capability to use efficient modes of data compression and did little to optimize file size. Because of this we are stuck with countless terabytes of useful archival information stored using a clumsy, storage space gobbling, bandwidth consuming, time and money wasting, hard to view and slow to transmit format.

BadDog
01-11-2007, 12:17 PM
Unfortunately, a great deal of the PDF content on the web was created with older versions of Adobe Creator that didn't have the capability to use efficient modes of data compression and did little to optimize file size. Because of this we are stuck with countless terabytes of useful archival information stored using a clumsy, storage space gobbling, bandwidth consuming, time and money wasting, hard to view and slow to transmit format.
So, what your saying is, it's typical Adobe? :D

Evan
01-11-2007, 12:49 PM
So, what your saying is, it's typical Adobe?
Yeah. But the problem isn't intrinsic to the format. The format allows inefficiency but that isn't the fault of the format unlike bitmap for graphics. With the appropriate use of graphics and text formats even PFD files created without additional compression can be compact and efficient. The main problem is a combination of clunky hard to use software (Adobe Creator) and a lack of understanding (cluelessness) on the part of the users.

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There seems to be a general rule that operates in the software business. The bigger the company that produces the software the crappier the software is.

Swarf&Sparks
01-11-2007, 01:12 PM
Bigger = crappier, yup, look at the biggest :(
I posted the link to foxit. It's part of my ongoing campaign to get out of the hands of the cyber-nazi. Started with firefox and was delighted to discover foxit reader. What I'd like now is another mail client. Tried a few, including mozilla thunderbird, but no good so far. All too damn hard.
Any suggestions welcome.
Rgds, Lin

John Stevenson
01-11-2007, 01:23 PM
Try Forte Agent.
http://www.forteinc.com (http://www.forteagent.com)

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Swarf&Sparks
01-11-2007, 01:28 PM
Thanks Sir John, I'll give it a try.

Evan
01-11-2007, 02:12 PM
You can also try Opera 9.10

As of version 9 it is freeware with no ads and includes an e-mail and news reader package complete with teachable spam filter. I haven't tried the e-mail package but have used the new browser and it seems pretty good. It has a very nice zoom feature, better than the others and seems stable.

http://www.opera.com/index.dml

Oh yeah, Opera is also skinnable and there are a bunch of different skins available for free.

Swarf&Sparks
01-12-2007, 01:16 AM
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Tried both of them, but again, just too damn difficult to get em to check my hotmail acct. Yahoo and my ISP accts are easy. Is this just more obfuscation by the cyber-nazi?

Evan
01-12-2007, 01:21 AM
Interoperability is a dirty word at Microsot.