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Peter Sanders
05-08-2007, 02:32 AM
Hi

Does anyone own/use one of these mills?

http://www.grizzly.com/products/G3616

I am considering the purchase of the local (Australian) import. The mill is badged Hafco HM50 and can be seen here...

http://hareandforbes.com.au/sample_2/Catalogues/Metalworking/23.html

I am seeking opinions on the mill, good, bad or problems to be aware of - even how good it is :D

Thank you...

BigBoy1
05-08-2007, 09:09 AM
Peter,

In Jan. I bought the bigger brother (G3609) to the one you are looking at. I'm am not disappointed in the mill. It has done everything I have wanted to do and have had no problems with it. I got a 3-axis DRO and really love it. Sure makes measuring a whole lot easier. I decided not to get the quill mouinted third axis and am sure glad I made that choice. Gives me much greater range of measurement in the Z direction.

Bill

Nutter
05-08-2007, 08:50 PM
A guy was just asking about this exact mill on the pirate 4x4 forum, so I offered an opinion - the same opinion I will offer to you.

Look at the specs of the G3616 and the look at the specs on a real Bridgeport or at least a clone that's closer to the real thing and see what's missing or comes up short.

-no power quill down feed for boring
-no back gears, lowest speed is way too fast 270 rpm
-max spindle to table is only 14"

Too many important features are missing or come up shy. In all honesty, I would spend my money on a mill drill with a square column and geared head before I would buy one of these - and I am a full sized machine kind of guy.

Peter Sanders
05-08-2007, 10:28 PM
Look at the specs of the G3616 and the look at the specs on a real Bridgeport or at least a clone that's closer to the real thing and see what's missing or comes up short.
In Western Australia the amount of used equipment is very small. That which does become availabale is, in relative terms, enormously expensive for secondhand/used equipment. Purchase of such equipment would also leave a gaping hole in the availability of spare parts and a huge lead time in obtaining any parts that may be available, ie from the US plus huge freight costs. While I would love to have a BP it is just out of the question :(


-no power quill down feed for boring
-no back gears, lowest speed is way too fast 270 rpm
-max spindle to table is only 14"

Too many important features are missing or come up shy. In all honesty, I would spend my money on a mill drill with a square column and geared head before I would buy one of these - and I am a full sized machine kind of guy.

The ONLY alternative, which is the other mill I was considering is this one, the HM45 here ...

http://hareandforbes.com.au/sample_2/Catalogues/Metalworking/22.html

BUT when you include the required extras, powerfeed and stand the price becomes $3248. For the sake of the price difference, I get a KNEE type mill (preferred) and the other extras like the vice, the collet set, the coolant pump and the work light. There is a lot more verstility in the movement of the head and table and what may be lacking in low speed is gained in the high speed range.

I do appreciate your thoughts though and thank you for the feedback and opinion. :) Thank you.

miker
05-09-2007, 12:18 AM
Hi Peter, it may be worthwhile asking by email on the Australian Model Engineering magazine website.

http://www.ameng.com.au/

Could be some people in that crowd using one. Probably a lot of them would buy from Hare and Forbes.

Rgds

Michael

The Other Side of Australia