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aostling
07-11-2007, 02:03 AM
Growing up as a Seattle kid, I had a real fondness for tug boats. The Foss fleet was moored nearby on the ship canal near the Fremont Bridge, and I used to walk all over the slips, admiring them. There was something really nifty about a boat that was essentially all engine.

I'm reminded of tugs when I see a nice tow truck, like this one I spotted in Scotland a few weeks ago. It may be tarted up a bit, but no matter, it still looks like it means business. Considering the relative narrowness of the roads in UK, it is really very big, too.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u183/aostling/TowTruck.jpg

Mike Burdick
07-11-2007, 02:46 AM
Gee whizz...that truck has more advertising than a newspaper!:eek:

Timleech
07-11-2007, 04:16 AM
I'm reminded of tugs when I see a nice tow truck, like this one I spotted in Scotland a few weeks ago. It may be tarted up a bit, but no matter, it still looks like it means business. Considering the relative narrowness of the roads in UK, it is really very big, too.



We had this down our lane a few weeks ago. There's a 7.5 ton limit on the lane (no more than a track really), & the railway maintenance wagon shouldn't have been there in the first place!

http://web.onetel.com/~duttondock/Pictures/Wrecker-1.jpg

The wrecker driver had to reverse his rig nearly half a mile down the lane, round two blind 90 degree bends. He made a better job of that than did the railway driver, going forwards, after he got out :rolleyes:

Your Old Dog
07-11-2007, 06:22 AM
Aostling, the brush guards are a nice touch!

aostling
07-11-2007, 10:38 AM
Aostling, the brush guards are a nice touch!

Yes. I'd like to see a photo of an Aussie tow truck with roo bars.

Swarf&Sparks
07-11-2007, 12:54 PM
roo bars are for amateurs
trucks have bull-bars :D

frinstance
http://www.kingbars.com.au/roadtrain.html

Forrest Addy
07-11-2007, 01:59 PM
Mike, you being a Seattle boy should remember the famous "toe truck;" an actual tow truck customised so the cab resembled a bare foor with individial toes sticking up.

http://www.roadtripamerica.com/wheels/toetruck.htm

Lincoln Towing operated it. They used to dig it out for parades and events. It was kept in a yard up near the Mercer Mess.

aostling
07-11-2007, 03:21 PM
Allan, you being a Seattle boy should remember the famous "toe truck;" an actual tow truck customised so the cab resembled a bare foor with individial toes sticking up.



Forrest, I took several photos of the Toe Truck, back when I used film cameras. I left Seattle in 1961 after living there since 1941, but every time I returned I would photograph the dwindling industrial scene of my boyhood. I particularly miss the old brick round house at the Interbay rail switching yards, where steam locomotives used to be in repairs.

It was from the Magnolia shore, where I lived, that we witnessed the greatest conflagration I've ever seen, in 1958. Acres of seventy-foot stacks of cedar lumber caught fire on the Ballard shore http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=2445 . One of Seattle's fireboats tied up to fight the blaze. The heat was so intense the paint started blistering on the hull. A fireman rushed on deck and tried to cut the mooring line with a fire-axe, but he was driven back by the heat. The captain inched forward to put slack on the line, then called for full reverse. This snapped the hawser and the fire boat was saved. None of the lumber survived. The flames (or at least the red glow in the sky) were actually seen in Victoria, B.C.

Now that I think about it, a fireboat rivals a tugboat, for sheer concentrated power and purpose.

BadDog
07-11-2007, 03:31 PM
Isn't that "toe truck" setting on top of a pedistal or building down town now? Seems like I saw it right off Aurora, or maybe it was just W of the I5? Anyway, I seem to remember going to Center back in the mid/late 90s and seeing it...

Swarf&Sparks
07-12-2007, 01:50 AM
not quite a tow-truck, but.......
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/idgara_eng/duallowloader.jpg

Evan
07-12-2007, 04:18 AM
Amateur! We have those too but they are restricted to the mines. For real on road vehicles we don't bother with "bush bars", we just armor the entire front. That isn't because they might hit a giant grizzly or something, it's because he might hit you. They don't have tow trucks for these guys. You have to pay attention to the signs on the back roads. They run on radio control and don't slow down on the curves or pull over when loaded. If he doesn't know you are there you won't be after he passes.

http://vts.bc.ca/pics2/logtruck1.jpg

http://vts.bc.ca/pics2/logtruck2.jpg

Charles Ping
07-12-2007, 08:44 AM
Amateur! We have those too but they are restricted to the mines. For real on road vehicles we don't bother with "bush bars", we just armor the entire front. That isn't because they might hit a giant grizzly or something, it's because he might hit you. They don't have tow trucks for these guys. You have to pay attention to the signs on the back roads. They run on radio control and don't slow down on the curves or pull over when loaded. If he doesn't know you are there you won't be after he passes.



Evan

Are they remote control to the extent of no driver or is he just sitting in the cab drinking coffee and watching for any warning lights?

I've been up into the forests in northern Maine and they do warn you that logging trucks don't slow down and always have priority. Didn't see many logging trucks but the hire car was pretty mucky when it got back to Boston airport.

Charles

oldtiffie
07-12-2007, 09:03 AM
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Evan
07-12-2007, 09:21 AM
Are they remote control to the extent of no driver or is he just sitting in the cab drinking coffee and watching for any warning lights?

Radio control, not remote controlled. They announce on specified channels where they are and when they expect to pass certain mileposts. Signs at the entrances to the many forestry roads give instruction on what radio channels are used on the road and warn of the hazard. The truck drivers coordinate with each other. Anybody else would do well to listen.

Swarf&Sparks
07-12-2007, 09:37 AM
<sigh>
Yup, remember similar logging trucks hauling saw logs of jarrah/karri/blackbutt
til they clear-felled and woodchipped the lot to get at bauxite :(

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/idgara_eng/haulpack.jpg

bhjones
07-12-2007, 12:15 PM
Thanks for the link Forest. I grew up just north of Seattle (Bothell mostly) and when i read "Seattle" and "Tow truck", the Toe Truck was the first thing that popped into my mind.

dp
07-12-2007, 03:28 PM
Isn't that "toe truck" setting on top of a pedistal or building down town now? Seems like I saw it right off Aurora, or maybe it was just W of the I5? Anyway, I seem to remember going to Center back in the mid/late 90s and seeing it...

I wondered where it went. I get on the freeway at Mercer every day and the lot where it was parked for so many years is pretty much empty. And what a mess that light rail construction has been... bleh.

camdigger
07-12-2007, 07:12 PM
Yep tow trucks.. How about dual winch beds with 101000# and 30000# winches, 1 1/8" tow cables, front bumpers and bed skirts you can push on with a D8 Cat and 150,000# loads pulled over a "live roll" on the end of the bed. All with 460 or so HP. Top speed 60 mph. Welcome to the world of rig moving. http://www.adamstransport.ca/images/BedTruck.jpg
BTW, that's not one of the largest, the largest have tri steering and tri drive rears. For truly impressive towing/moving equipment, check out the Husky 8 http://www.foremost.ca/veh_h8.php or a Commander http://www.foremost.ca/veh_comc.php . Price tag on a new Commander or Husky 8 is roughly $1.1 MM. That's the kind of equipment we call when Evan's loggers run off the road.

Peter S
07-12-2007, 08:54 PM
They run on radio control and don't slow down on the curves or pull over when loaded.

OK, the drivers have radios...that is not quite as exciting as it first reads :)

There is a large man-made forest of Radiata Pine in NZ called Kaingaroa (was around 375,000 acres, but thats a while back), they have their own private roading system (several 1000 kms) and used (1970's) to have a fleet of off-highway Pacifics pulling twin and triple trailers of logs. About 120 tons all up. I was told they had concrete pads for starting these rigs and were King of the Road once underway.
A local development was an extra engine fitted to one of the trailers and driving some of the trailer axles.
I suspect the modern large horsepower prime movers have made this job easier. I guess the Pacifics are long gone now, not sure what they use now days at Kaingaroa.
I have pictures in a Kaingaroa booklet from the 1970's showing huge LeTourneau log stackers taking a whole trailer load in one bite (42 tons capacity) and transferring it to a rail wagon.

oldtiffie
07-12-2007, 09:22 PM
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Evan
07-12-2007, 09:24 PM
a fleet of off-highway Pacifics pulling twin and triple trailers of logs....

Standard highway rig here is three bunks on eight axles, maximum load 122,000 lbs. Some of those rigs can beat the sports cars from a standing stop at the lights when they are unloaded.

platypus2020
07-12-2007, 09:28 PM
Aostling,

you speak as if being "tarted up" is a bad thing

jack

Swarf&Sparks
07-13-2007, 02:07 AM
Sorry tiffie, I'd send it back but the postage would break me.
That's a 12"/ft model :D

oldtiffie
07-13-2007, 09:20 AM
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Evan
07-13-2007, 09:32 AM
you speak as if being "tarted up" is a bad thing

Nothing wrong with tarts. Either sort...

http://vts.bc.ca/pics2/tart.jpg

Swarf&Sparks
07-13-2007, 10:17 AM
You're a semitone flat Mick

matador
07-13-2007, 05:24 PM
Here's a nice looking rig in use in Austria:
http://www.ditzj.de/html/nl/trucks/volvo/vn660groll.html.
Note the odd spacing of the 2nd steering axle.This layout is gaining some favour here in nz ,must be something to do with axle load limits.

Wayne02
07-13-2007, 07:33 PM
For real on road vehicles we don't bother with "bush bars", we just armor the entire front. That isn't because they might hit a giant grizzly or something, it's because he might hit you. They don't have tow trucks for these guys. You have to pay attention to the signs on the back roads. They run on radio control and don't slow down on the curves or pull over when loaded. If he doesn't know you are there you won't be after he passes.

Isn't that the truth. I spend a fair bit of time on the logging roads in the hills/mountains around here. If I'm climbing towards the top with my truck and camping trailer and just pass a tree with a red #14 on it (mile marker), then hear one of these guys come across the CB, "just passing 15 headed toward the bottom", I do three things:

1. Reach out and pull in my drivers side mirror
2. Roll up the windows
3. Head for the extreme right side of the "road" on a straight stretch. If there is a turn out great, if not I hang the right side into the ditch a bit.

These guys don't slow down and they don't move over when loaded.

Evan
07-13-2007, 09:02 PM
Same as here but they don't use CB. They have a number of public service channels allocated for such use. Most people don't have the radios so it's a good idea to stay off the forestry roads when they are active. Best bet is to carry a scanner.

oldtiffie
07-13-2007, 09:52 PM
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