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dilligaf
11-18-2007, 09:29 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/jasonjoiner/shaper/100_0148.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/jasonjoiner/shaper/100_0149.jpg

dilligaf
11-18-2007, 09:30 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/jasonjoiner/shaper/100_0150.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/jasonjoiner/shaper/100_0152.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/jasonjoiner/shaper/100_0153.jpg

dilligaf
11-18-2007, 09:33 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/jasonjoiner/shaper/100_0154.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a371/jasonjoiner/shaper/100_0155.jpg

I bought this for $250 it used to be a line shaft im going to redo the motor. I was thinking of using two motors one running one way the other running the other way.Let me know what you think.

Jason

mochinist
11-18-2007, 09:41 PM
Doesn't look very new to me











;):D

lane
11-18-2007, 09:51 PM
Shaper ok rather see the Yamaha.

Michael Edwards
11-18-2007, 10:17 PM
Looks good. You don't see to many shapers that aren't crank driven or hydraulic. It will be a fun one to watch while it's making chips.

ME

BadDog
11-18-2007, 10:19 PM
Eh, why 2 motors?

Love the shaper, wish it were in my shop. Not that it would fit, but just saying...

Edit: Oh wow, I just realized, I don't see any kind of yoke or oscillating device. Is that thing doing a belt flop for the direction change.

dilligaf
11-18-2007, 10:55 PM
yes one belt is twisted to change the motor direction. That is why im thinking two motors. The belts on it are very old i could move the motor on top and get new belts.

andy_b
11-18-2007, 11:26 PM
yes one belt is twisted to change the motor direction. That is why im thinking two motors. The belts on it are very old i could move the motor on top and get new belts.

have you ever seen an old shaper (or planer) in operation? the dual-belt arrangement operates very smoothly. to me, messing with the old belt drive would be like putting lipstick and earings on the Mona Lisa (well, not really). :)
i think you should keep the belt arrangement though. on most of the old machines i've seen they mount the shaper to a wooden sled (basically two oak runners that stick out two feet behind the machine), and mount the countershaft and motor on the back of the runners.

that shaper is a beauty though!!!!

andy b.

Ian B
11-19-2007, 01:38 AM
First shaper I've seen that's driven in that way; nice! The advantage is that you'll get a pretty constant cutting speed, unlike the usual crank drive which gives fast cutting at mid stroke, slow at both ends.

I'm with Andy on this one - it would be really slick to run it as the maker's intended with the twisted belt drive. It looks like it worked fine for the past hundred years...

Lovely machine, enjoy!

Ian

BadDog
11-19-2007, 01:52 AM
Just don't let an OSHA safety inspector see it. I wonder if your liability insurance would cover his simultaneous gran-mal seizure and heart attack under "work related accidents". :D

S_J_H
11-19-2007, 09:13 AM
That is a nice old machine! I also would not modify it, just clean, lube and adjust so it runs smooth and then enjoy.

Steve

7018
11-19-2007, 08:25 PM
Nice old Shaper, I'm with the others I wouldn't change it either...:D

dilligaf
11-20-2007, 09:33 PM
i got this on another forum
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jsn_joiner:

Thank you for posting pictures of your recent
acquistion. Your subject title is a bit mislead-
ing, because Hendey did not produce an 8 inch
shaper. The smallest sizes offered were the 6
and 10 inch models. Your shaper is an example of the model introduced in 1889 and further improved
in 1896. Drawings for machines of this period
still exist. The sizes offered were 15, 20, 24
and 28 inch. If you will post a photograph of the
front of your shaper, it will make it easier to
determine if your machine is the 1896 improved
model.

To the best of my knowledge, serial number
records for shapers built before 1900 do not exist. Your shaper appears to be the 15 inch
size, if that is the case an approximate date of
manufacture can be determined by interpolation.
Only two sizes of friction shapers had serial num-
bers greater than 1000 before all serial numbers
were grouped together in April 1904, they were the
15 inch and 24 inch sizes. Serial number 1050 is
in the 1894-95 range, again, assuming this is a
15 inch shaper. A 24 inch friction shaper with
this serial number would have been built July 30,
1901.

I hope that you have the vice with this shaper. I notice that you are using the double
handle crane from the vice in place of the single
handle crane to operate the lifting screw. If
ever decide to put this shaper back on the belts
via a line shaft, I have the drawings for the
original countershaft. Also, I have copies of the
parts book and sales brochure available, if in-
terested let me know.

Hendeyman

Thomas Staubo
11-20-2007, 09:50 PM
Interesting shaper you got there!

If I understand it correctly, the direction lever (in the second last photo) is flipped over at the end of the stroke, it then actuates a clutch of some sort so the drive is transferred to the other (opposite running) drive wheel.

Is that a kind of friction clutch? I can't see clearly in the photos.

Also, how is the drive transferred from the rotary motion to the sliding ram? Rack and pinion inside the 'body' of the shaper?



.

dilligaf
11-20-2007, 11:00 PM
yes that is how the friction clutch works and it is rack and pinoin inside of the base. it is very smooth and 1100 pounds

oil mac
11-21-2007, 09:34 AM
Wow,
Im really envious of you having such a nice, interesting & rare item of plant, have only seen one shaper with that form of drive over here in Scotland many years ago, Please , Please, ! Dont alter the drive on such a fine machine, As it is at present driven by open and twisted belts, from one countershaft, THis drive is the jewel in its crown, as carefully thought out by Hendeys, I once operated an old planing machine with belt shifters, and when visitors to the establishment saw that arrangement, they were gobsmacked.
Also it is a very useful machine_ Enjoy it and good fortune.:cool: :)

heavysteamer
11-21-2007, 10:56 AM
The Torrington Historical Center has one of these set up and working off a line shaft. They have a video of the Hendey shaper, mill, and lathe working, along with the history of the Hendey Machine Co. I got a very nice poster and the video from them, and one day hope to have a Hendey shaper myself. http://compx2.com/ths/generalInfo.htm

CLARKMAG
12-05-2007, 01:35 AM
It looks like the new shaper is in good shape, except for the paint.
But taking it apart and repainting is part of bonding with your new baby.