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Larry Jaquay
01-24-2008, 01:51 AM
Hello just found a shaper vise on e-bay #290201015188

6" by 5 3/8' jaw with 4 3/4 center mounting holes

Larry don't fight boys!!!!!

Your Old Dog
01-24-2008, 05:41 AM
Nah, here's a shaper vice that I was in on but not willing to give up the family farm to own!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110215518460&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching

IOWOLF
01-24-2008, 06:04 AM
YOD, That is a Rotary table,But I have seen a South Bend version go for $450 on a buy it now.

Your Old Dog
01-24-2008, 06:18 AM
Isn't it a rotary table for a shaper? I googled it before getting interested in it and found pictures of it bolted to an atlas shaper table. I'll see if I can find the images again.

edited: here you go, it was in the ad.

http://i12.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/d2/f5/1fb6_1.JPG

the ad went on to say "The right picture shows it in the stored position bolted to the side."

lazlo
01-24-2008, 08:45 AM
I bid on that Atlas rotary table last night YOD, but dropped out at $200:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110215518460

It's a pretty crappy rotab with no indexing. For that price I'd rather buy a little Vertex rotab with the sector plates.

Your Old Dog
01-24-2008, 10:02 AM
I bid on that Atlas rotary table last night YOD, but dropped out at $200:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110215518460

It's a pretty crappy rotab with no indexing. For that price I'd rather buy a little Vertex rotab with the sector plates.

Did you read the entire ad through? I thought he said it was in new condition with crisp index marks? I petered out at $160 but now that I know you're looking too, I'll have to cash in some of the pop bottles I been saving :D I was going to wait till the deposite fee doubled and then sell off. This could get ug-ly !

lazlo
01-24-2008, 10:57 AM
Did you read the entire ad through? I thought he said it was in new condition with crisp index marks?

Right, it was in new condition. What I meant was that the Atlas rotab itself was a pretty primitive design. Unless you're an Atlas collector, I'd rather spend the $240 on a "real" rotab with a crank, sector arm, and dividing plates.

Same deal with the Atlas dividing head that they made for this shaper: it's really basic, but sells for hundreds of dollars for the collector's value. For a lot less $$$ you can mount a little Hardinge 5C indexer...

IOWOLF
01-24-2008, 12:51 PM
Nah, here's a shaper vice that I was in on but not willing to give up the family farm to own!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110215518460&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching


You wrote this did you not?

Then I wrote this.....

"YOD, That is a Rotary table,But I have seen a South Bend version go for $450 on a buy it now."

Waterlogged
01-24-2008, 02:54 PM
I'll be putting a nice Logan shaper vise on ebay next week.......unless someone wants to offer me lots of money first.....

IOWOLF
01-24-2008, 10:39 PM
No Comment,yod?

Your Old Dog
01-25-2008, 08:29 AM
Well Wolfie, let me try to answer you with all the sincerity, compassion and devotion to pen that I can muster. (I'm going to reserve shipping out the flying fickel finger of fate for a later round should it become necessary !)

Here it is:

"Yes, I wrote that, as any fool can plainly see" :D

I was having a very rare off day. You ever have one of those?

I thought a rotab for a shaper might have different qualities like a lower profile. Now am thinking they may not.

lazlo
01-25-2008, 09:27 AM
I thought a rotab for a shaper might have different qualities like a lower profile. Now am thinking they may not.

The Atlas shaper vise is definitely very low profile, but like you say, the Atlas rotab doesn't seem particularly low-profile.

I was wondering about the NOS Atlas rotab in the auction you posted not having a handle, but I checked the Atlas catalog, and it didn't come with a handle/crank (?) -- they show the operator using an adjustable wrench. Hmmm.

Optics Curmudgeon
01-25-2008, 04:41 PM
Hard to call it a rotary table, at least in the usual sense. It doesn't have any gearing to rotate it, it's more of an indexing table. There are holes every 30 degrees around the outside edge, a pin drops into these. There are also degree markings and two bolts through the bottom to lock the table at any arbitrary position. On the whole, probably of more interest to collectors, especially given the price they go for.

Joe

IOWOLF
01-25-2008, 08:31 PM
"I was having a very rare off day. You ever have one of those?"

The rare ones are are your ON days. :) Finger away.

Tinker2
01-25-2008, 09:45 PM
I have a Rotary table just like that. It is a lower profile then
the Atlas shaper vice. If I take the Atlas shaper vice off it

Your Old Dog
01-25-2008, 09:53 PM
Tink, thanks for the picture. So it really isn't a rotab in the classic sense. The original ad mentioned it would be great for serations and that reminded me of a problem I had trying to make an adjustable handle sort of like on those golf bag carriers where the handle folds over to fit in the trunk.

Wolfie, on that flying fickel thing, consider it enroute :D

Tinker2
01-25-2008, 09:58 PM
I have a Rotary table just like that. It is a lower profile then
the Atlas shaper vice. If I take the Atlas shaper vice off itís
swivel base, the vice is still taller. My Sherline rotary table
is taller.

Mine is in very good shape, but they are not the easiest to
use. They just work/fit better then my other three rotary
tables on the Atlas shaper.


Here is a look see for you so you see better what is involved
in setting or rotating it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/Dabbletoo/basejpg.jpg
If I can help in any way I would be glad to.


Tinker2

Tinker2
01-25-2008, 10:12 PM
Your Old Dog

Yes, it really isn't a rotab in the classic sense.
Also the degrees are only marked 90 to the right and
90 to the left. The holes are all the way around.

I re-posted to get the picture back.
???

Tinker2

lazlo
01-25-2008, 10:17 PM
Hard to call it a rotary table, at least in the usual sense. It doesn't have any gearing to rotate it, it's more of an indexing table. There are holes every 30 degrees around the outside edge, a pin drops into these.

Thanks Joe -- I was worried about that too -- whether it actually contained a worm drive. There's very little description in the Atlas catalog.

So it looks like I'm the hunt for a small (4 - 5") low profile rotab.

lazlo
01-25-2008, 10:19 PM
I have a Rotary table just like that. It is a lower profile then
the Atlas shaper vice.

What brand is it? It almost looks shop made?

BadDog
01-25-2008, 10:26 PM
Looks to me more like a "spacer" or "index" table. I've got a Hartford that works similarly, but stands taller and has a dog-n-cog type arrangement actuated by a side lever.

Tinkerer
01-25-2008, 10:37 PM
This was a extra one I had. They are made by Atlas.

DESIGN FOR THE ATLAS SHAPER AND FITS PERFECTLY.
TABLE DIAMETER IS 5 1/2"... HEIGHT IS 1 7/8"... MANUALLY INDEXED WITH HOLES EVERY 30 DEGREES. SWIVEL BASE GRADUATED 0-90 DEGREES LEFT AND RIGHT.



Model Number
S7-421 A

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/A-Tinkerer/table.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/A-Tinkerer/rotarytable2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/A-Tinkerer/tablebottomside.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/A-Tinkerer/tabletop.jpg

And that vise only has 2 mounting holes.... so it's most likely not for a shaper.

Tinker2
01-25-2008, 10:45 PM
lazlo

Sold by Atlas. They called it a rotary index table.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/Dabbletoo/1atlasd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/Dabbletoo/RTAtlas.jpg



tinker2

Tinkerer
01-25-2008, 10:57 PM
lazlo

Sold by Atlas. They called it a rotary index table.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/Dabbletoo/1atlasd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/Dabbletoo/RTAtlas.jpg



tinker2

tinker2... where did you get the book from?

lazlo
01-26-2008, 11:26 AM
Right, it was in new condition. What I meant was that the Atlas rotab itself was a pretty primitive design. Unless you're an Atlas collector, I'd rather spend the $240 on a "real" rotab with a worm drive, crank, sector arm, and dividing plates.

Same deal with the Atlas dividing head that they made for this shaper: it's really basic, but sells for hundreds of dollars for the collector's value. For a lot less $$$ you can mount a little Hardinge 5C indexer...

Thanks Tinkerer -- so not only did that Atlas rotab go for $230, it wasn't even for the Atlas shaper, as was described in the auction title!

Here's the bottom of the rotab in that auction:

http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/d2/f5/0f74_1.JPG

JCHannum
01-26-2008, 02:19 PM
The eBay table is by Atlas, just an earlier version. This photo is from the 1945 catalog. List price $34.00.

http://members.aol.com/jchannum/atlas

IOWOLF
01-26-2008, 05:13 PM
The South Bend version Has a worm drive, But you won't get mine for no $230.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/iowolf/SANY0109_edited.jpg

Tinker2
01-26-2008, 05:18 PM
Tinkerer

I donít remember for sure where I got the book but
from Atlas would be my first guess.


Tinker2

Tinker2
01-26-2008, 05:24 PM
IOWOLF

How tall is your ?



Tinker2

IOWOLF
01-26-2008, 05:27 PM
2.5 to 3" I guess.