View Full Version : Specs needed for 3-in1
01-31-2008, 06:55 PM
Got a couple of questions if you could help me here.
I wanted a small machine to put in my storage building and mess around with.
I Happened to have a customer that wanted to do some trading for inserts and he had a little HF 3-in-1 machine that I traded some inserts for. I know these are not highly thought of here but it's perfect for my needs. I will pick it up soon but it won't have any books with it. I would like to surf ebay tonight for some basic accessories but don't know what taper the milling head has. I think the tail stock is probably MT2 but will the milling spindle be MT2 or (hopefully) MT3?
Also, what would be a versatile vise to get for milling? I would like something with a swivel base. Any recommendations?
The machine is mint and has about 3 hours on it. The guy I got it from owned the CNC shop it was at and has already tuned it up so it feels good.
It seems to be better quality than the one I saw at HF last visit. The finish is better and the crank wheels are nicer.
He told me it weighs about 380 lbs !!
Anything else you can think of I'll need that would be handy?
Any little secrets about these machines?
01-31-2008, 07:36 PM
I've got a Smithy that i've had for some years now........
it's not a HF machine so may not be the same, taper wise.
the mill spindle is a Morse #3, as is the tailstock.
The headstock is either a 4 or a 5, I would have to check on that,( have never used it ).
It REALLY is a pain to do work on, most any kind .
Only tip I can give ya is to keep your cuts light.
For a vise I used a 3" grinder vise.
Once you get the model # of your HF you may be able to get a manual online.
Someone else here will probably be able to add to this. HF specific.
01-31-2008, 07:45 PM
I just checked HF web site and the two current models (red #44142 & grey #46199) both have a link on the description page for a down-loadable (.pdf) copy of the manual.
Here is the links for the two...
01-31-2008, 11:10 PM
We could probably guess at it if you could measure the length of the bed, distance from the center of the lathe spindle to the bed, the size of the table, the cross-slide travel, and count the number of AC motors on it...
01-31-2008, 11:25 PM
I found a picture of exactly what I have.
Hey, what can I say.. I've got less than $200 in it and it's practically brand new.
02-01-2008, 01:47 PM
I found a picture of exactly what I have.
nothing to laugh about. will it enable you to try out some home shop machining? were you able to afford it? i say it was a good deal.
02-01-2008, 01:48 PM
hahahahahaha... oops.. sorry... ;)
Oh well, for that little change I guess you could still use it as a boat anchor if all else fails.
Really the machine is the best of the worst of both worlds. Youll probably have to go through it to make it usable. Some reassembly required. Same thing I have had to do with all the HF machine tools I have bought in the past.
For a vice littlemachineshop.com has a neat little copy of a Kurt but only 3".
Cheapest one here:
Friend bought one and it seems pretty decent.
02-01-2008, 02:32 PM
They aren't wonder machines, But if your work fits on it, there's no problem.
I know of several people who have big industrial type machines, and seldom work on anything you couldn't stick in your pocket, for many of them the 3 in one would be perfect.
I've seen some very good work come off those machines, if the price is right, and you can work comfortably with it's limitations I'd say go for it, especially if it's been tweaked and tuned.
Setting up for milling can be a pain, and the lack of threading may be a limitation.
If you just want to get your feet wet or keep busy without wrapping up a bunch of funds go for it
also, I think that machine is a current HF offering, running at $699 it's still on display at the local store, but web page shows a different one.
02-01-2008, 02:52 PM
I have had real good luck with HF parts people, Call them with the Harbor Freight ITEM 5980-2VGA, and ask for a manual.
Heck, the worst they can do is say NO!
02-01-2008, 03:03 PM
DUUUUUUUUDE, check out what I found :
02-03-2008, 09:44 AM
Just a quick thank you to all the people who replied with help on my post.
Got the machine home, it's in great shape and the previous owner had already gone thru it and tightened/tuned it up. I'm not making precision parts here. Just need something better than a drill press sometimes. (and I can't turn with a drill press).
Macona, that vise is exactly what I was looking for.
One of my customers has a 16 X 30 Hendy engine lathe he's holding for me until May. Now this is a REAL lathe. I think it weighs about 3K lbs.