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Randolph
02-03-2008, 04:55 PM
I am almost embarrassed to ask this question on this forum but I have asked dumber ones so here goes.

I have an old Gerstner tool box which is in almost perfect condition except for the green felt in the bottoms of the drawers. Has anyone here ever replaced the felt in drawers of this type? I prefer not to wind up with a wrinkled mess which is probably what will happen if I just jump in without some guidance.

Thanks in advance for the help.

smiller6912
02-03-2008, 05:16 PM
I have my dad's 1952 model #52 and it could use a new piece or two. When I got it I called Gerstner (they are about5 miles from me) and chatted with a real nice lady and, if I remember right, she told me that they have a kit available. I think that you should be able to do a real nice job with the right glue and a wall paper seam roller, if you want to try it yourself with regular "fabric shop" felt. The drawer bottoms are metal so getting it off should be fairly easy and safe.

smiller6912
02-03-2008, 05:19 PM
......can anyone guess why Gerstner put a mirror in the lid?

John Stevenson
02-03-2008, 05:33 PM
......can anyone guess why Gerstner put a mirror in the lid?

To check if IOWolf is still breathing ? :rolleyes::p;)

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loose nut
02-03-2008, 05:46 PM
......can anyone guess why Gerstner put a mirror in the lid?

So you could pick metal splinters out of you eye's, this goes back to before safety glasses were used.

If you glue in new felt you need a special glue, ordinary white glue will out gas and rust your tools, learned that the hard way/

Bill Pace
02-03-2008, 05:57 PM
This may not be what you wanna mess with Randolph, but this is handy stuff to just keep in the shop.....

I got 3 of the Kennedy boxes and in 2 of them the felt was a mess, and since all I could find local was at the fabric stores, and nothing I cared about, -- and I kinda wanted the adhesive backed kind, so I got to researching (read: Googling!), and came up with this site. They have a $25 dollar minimum--and about every color imaginable--so I just sprung for a yard.....Whoa!! what a piece of felt, -- Ive felted the 2 boxes and bout every thing else in the shop! I'm glad I sprung for the yard, I still got a goodly piece left ....

http://tinyurl.com/yrnzhl

I dont know how youll get it off that Gerstner ... youll wanna be careful with it, -- I first scraped/pulled off as much as could from the Kennedys-- which was most of it --then I took one of those small cheapo 1/4" shaft wire cup wheels on a drill and got the rest off. When getting the felt on, it's tricky to mess with --- the adhesive backing is STICKY!, but after a few runs at it it got easier

TGTool
02-03-2008, 05:58 PM
......can anyone guess why Gerstner put a mirror in the lid?

A testament to optimism and confidence. It you got a chip in your eye, the mirror was right there so you could pick it out. Yes, and the right hand top middle drawer of mine has needle and thread for sutures. Well, I exaggerate a little, but I do keep needles for sliver removal and a little antiseptic.

J Tiers
02-03-2008, 07:16 PM
If you glue in new felt you need a special glue, ordinary white glue will out gas and rust your tools, learned that the hard way/

Actually, Gerstner states that they use hide glue. That is available at any woodworking store, and varieties are often available at even Lowe's etc.


Quite correct on white glue, yellow glue, etc.

BTW, Gerstner has an FAQ on removing felt. You use hot water, which dissolves the hide glue and releases the felt. I've done that on a non-Gerstner box and it worked fine.

IOWOLF
02-03-2008, 07:48 PM
John old buddy , Why would you want to go there?

They are correct, for minor eye injuries.

John Stevenson
02-03-2008, 08:05 PM
John old buddy , Why would you want to go there?

They are correct, for minor eye injuries.

Yup, it works, he's still breathing :D :D

Just joking mate :D

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smiller6912
02-03-2008, 09:02 PM
............according to the sweet little girl that I spoke with at Gerstner, When they first started making their boxes back in1906 very few machine shops yet had indoor plumbing and the mirror was installed for personal grooming, ya' gotta get the shop grime off your face and comb your hair before you go home for dinner. In 1954 Gerstner decided to stop putting in a mirror but the customer uproar changed their minds and it is now, more or less, a trademark.

StephenK
02-03-2008, 09:19 PM
In regards to the Gerstner tool chest. My first year shop Teacher ,way back when, did tell us that machinist would wear a black bowtie and the mirror was used so they can make sure it was adjusted properly. Ok, that's like grooming.
He also said one could see if his nose was Brown and Sharp. I think there were a few other remarks but it's been so long I can't remember.

Randolph
02-04-2008, 07:59 AM
Thanks for all the useful (well, mostly useful) replies. It demonstrates further the adage that the only really dumb question is the one which should have been asked but wasn't.

I think I will take on the job of replacing the felt.

Alistair Hosie
02-04-2008, 09:05 AM
any good craft and supplies shop magazine will sell the felt baise for this it usually comes in rolls and is sticky backed for self installation.Alistair

smiller6912
02-04-2008, 09:37 AM
Thanks for all the useful (well, mostly useful) replies. It demonstrates further the adage that the only really dumb question is the one which should have been asked but wasn't.

I think I will take on the job of replacing the felt.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hijack your thread, I was just trying to inject a little fun-facts sidebar into my boring afternoon.:(
I checked Gerstner's site and, in their parts, they list replacement felt but they only sell a 30"x36" roll, sound like a lot, and there was no mention of adhesive. When I restored my dad's old '52 I used a nylon brush and "Windex" on the felt and it cleaned it up real nice and, the whole thing smelled a lot better, it took the old musty stanky right out.

Lynn Standish
02-04-2008, 12:13 PM
About a year ago, I called a shop that advertised pool table recovering to see if I could buy or beg some scraps of felt to put on the bottom of some nutcrackers I had made. The purpose was to avoid scratching coffee tables, etc. The guy gave me the complete covering he had taken off a table recently. I don't recall why he said he kept them. After running it through the washer, it had shrunk a little so it was thicker and heavier than it had been. You might check with someone like that, as it would be very good for lining your tool chest.

BillB
02-04-2008, 01:43 PM
Well, of course, some of us don't have fancy furniture-grade toolchests....

Back in the day when I was driving Beetles, I carried enough tools to fix most problems short of a blown engine in a steel Craftsman toolbox in the trunk. Only problem was all the crashing & banging on washboard dirt roads. Got some felt from the local fabric store & glued it in with silicone glue. It's still holding up 30-odd years later, probably in large part due to not getting it too oily.

The best way to turn any toolbox into a fetid swamp is to use those rolls of textured foam sold for liner material, get it oily, & let it sit for a while.

BillB

Fasttrack
02-04-2008, 05:57 PM
Well, of course, some of us don't have fancy furniture-grade toolchests....

Back in the day when I was driving Beetles, I carried enough tools to fix most problems short of a blown engine in a steel Craftsman toolbox in the trunk. Only problem was all the crashing & banging on washboard dirt roads. Got some felt from the local fabric store & glued it in with silicone glue. It's still holding up 30-odd years later, probably in large part due to not getting it too oily.

The best way to turn any toolbox into a fetid swamp is to use those rolls of textured foam sold for liner material, get it oily, & let it sit for a while.

BillB


Ditto! That stuff causes problems - just leave a wrench sit on it for a long time unused and it turns all goey and nasty and sticks to the handles!!! My dad has a drawer full of tools that probably havent been used in a year and half and all the tools were stuck to the rubber anti-slip mat

JerryL
02-04-2008, 06:17 PM
To check your face for grease before you go in and ask the boss for a raise .

PaulF
02-04-2008, 09:06 PM
When I set calipers and mikes, I by habit look at the measuring tool next to the light to get a feel if things are OK.

Just a guess, but I think the mirror is to look at a tool gap or something similar against a bright light. I hold it up to a light to see through.

Just a guess though. Maybe for Elvis hair combing.

PaulF

Just tryin g to get my count up!

IOWOLF
02-04-2008, 09:23 PM
PaulF, keep going and you to will join the ranks of us Mexican Porn stars.
Sen'ior Member.

PaulF
02-04-2008, 09:51 PM
Si Senor,

PaulF

macona
02-05-2008, 04:34 PM
Generic craft store felt is actually not the best thing to use for lining the drawers. Some of the stuff used to process it can cause damage to tools. I think there was a thread on PM about this subject.

Wouldnt use silicone as a glue either. It out gasses acetic acid as it cures.