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  • rfrey
    Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 51

    Alexander Slocum's machine design book

    Professor Slocum released a new version of his book FUNdaMENTALs today.



    The download includes all the design spreadsheets for bearings, linkages, etc. There's also a SolidWorks tutorial available through the course site.

    A truly awesome resource for novice machine builders if you haven't seen it already. If you have, you may wish to replace your copy with the newest version.

    Rod
  • R W
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 363

    #2
    Where can I buy this book.

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    • rfrey
      Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 51

      #3
      Originally posted by R W
      Where can I buy this book.
      Sorry I was unclear. It's there on the link page to download. It's free, as are all the design spreadsheets.

      Truly a gift from MIT and from Prof. Slocum. I think Evan used this book or part of it when he was studying to begin his mill.

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      • ptjw7uk
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 1212

        #4
        Thanks for the link.
        NIce download - had a read but one of the first design things he says I would disagree with - he says ' get rid of all unnecessary weight - if it is not required then design it out'.
        I've always thought that designers only used the bare minimum of materials in so doing keeping manufacturing costs lower therebye reducing the longevity of the machine etc.
        My own view is that if it is a machine then the more mass the better and the longer it will last and keep its accuracy, I may be wrong (usually I am well so the wife says)
        Peter
        I have tools I don't know how to use!!

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        • rfrey
          Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 51

          #5
          Originally posted by ptjw7uk
          Thanks for the link.
          NIce download - had a read but one of the first design things he says I would disagree with - he says ' get rid of all unnecessary weight - if it is not required then design it out'.
          Hi, Peter. Read a bit further - Slocum's talking about all sorts of machine design, not just machine tools. He probably would not consider damping weight in a machine tool unnecessary.

          The 2.007 course is centered around a competition where excess weight would likely be a liability.

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          • toastydeath
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 327

            #6
            I've spoken with Socum, discussing this exact quote. He is not talking about saving money, he's talking about increasing performance. It's a rehash of something somebody long dead said to the gist of "What purpose has it there?" in reference to weight in design. Even when our forefathers were building massive machine tools, they understood raw weight was not an advantage. It had to be carefully placed, and trimmed where possible.

            If you can make a machine tool the same static rigidity but decrease the mass, you increase the natural frequency of the machine and thus increase dynamic stiffness. You can accelerate lighter bodies faster with less structural deformation, longer bearing life, and hold greater tolerances.

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            • rantbot
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 615

              #7
              In engineering design you use what you need to do the job. Anything more is a waste.

              It's one of the things which separates engineers from hacks. Anybody can throw in everything up to the kichen sink. Much of the trick is in realizing what to leave out.

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              • Joel
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2001
                • 3229

                #8
                It has been said that any idiot can design a bridge that is strong enough.
                The real skill is in designing one that is just strong enough.
                Location: North Central Texas

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                • barts
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 990

                  #9
                  As much as I agree about efficiency, particularly w/ mass designed and produced products, I feel obliged to point out that for many of our projects the downsides of extra material and increased weight are dwarfed by the advantage of avoiding failures due to inadequate strength, unanticipated loads or long term corrosion. If it doesn't have to fly, extra strength is often very cheap insurance, indeed.

                  Design the shape for overall best efficiency, but don't stint on thickness.

                  - Bart
                  Bart Smaalders
                  http://smaalders.net/barts

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                  • dp
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 12048

                    #10
                    Some things are not built to service - they are built to last while giving service. I've been on this bridge and it is magnificent. It was built of simple materials on a risky foundation by people who had nothing that approaches our capability. It perseveres and it is beautiful.



                    My visit to Ponte di Rialto: http://thevirtualbarandgrill.com/italy/Page8.html

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                    • rantbot
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 615

                      #11
                      Interesting. I've been following the 2.70/2.007 courses for over thirty years now. They've gradually become more of a spectacle than a class, for better or worse.

                      I remember in the mid-1970s when Prof Flowers, who was running 2.70 at the time, showed me his secret stash of scrounged parts for the next term's competition. He was particularly pleased with a closet full of electric motors for the SX-70 camera which Polaroid had donated. I wasn't too sure that was progress; the motive power for things made in the class had traditionally been gravity or rubber bands. One can learn a lot about machine design by working with simple stuff like gravity or rubber bands. It's harder to try to construct something using electric motors in half a term when one is simultaneously carrying a full course load. The end result is that even fewer of the things are finished and in working condition by the time of the contest than had been in the old days. Of course, that's a valuable lesson right there.

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                      • agrip
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 251

                        #12
                        Good question that was, Peter.

                        The term "unnecessary weight" coming from an August individual may seem daunting. There-in lies assumption.

                        Occam's Razor is better served by always remembering "necessary and sufficient". Either alone will imply lack of the "necessary and sufficient" {thinking, experience, data} or what have you

                        There is NO point in ever exceeding "N&S" unless the overage is certain class of gift. i.e., To use this gift, it is necessary to use it untrimmed, because to trim would make the cost exceed the N&S limit from scratch.

                        Ag
                        Last edited by agrip; 02-06-2008, 08:37 AM.

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                        • Mcgyver
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 13411

                          #13
                          As much as I agree about efficiency, particularly w/ mass designed and produced products, I feel obliged to point out that for many of our projects the downsides of extra material and increased weight are dwarfed by the advantage of avoiding failures due to inadequate strength, unanticipated loads or long term corrosion. If it doesn't have to fly, extra strength is often very cheap insurance, indeed.

                          Design the shape for overall best efficiency, but don't stint on thickness.
                          you nailed it, bang on. i think its more cost driven as opposed to bad engineering, however overall the design and engineering of products is trending toward the atrocious. In the quest to fill shelfs with bubble packaged crap at 19.99, seems like half the crap at Christmas this year didn't last 48 hours.

                          onto the designers of our GM Suburban; now there's a bunch who know how to carve out extra weight. They 'd done so to the point where it's just a POS. Ever had an internal door handle break off of in your hand? more than once on the same car? To save an ounce of steel they've destroyed the brand...in my family at least. The kids view GM the way my generation did the Lada. too bad, what a waste.

                          They would do well to also teach that most important of engineering maxims; build it twice as strong as it needs to be and it'll only fail half the time.
                          located in Toronto Ontario

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                          • rantbot
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 615

                            #14
                            The engineering approach can be boiled down to a simple maxim.

                            Good enough ... is perfect.

                            Nearly everyone - especially engineering students - assumes this is a joke, until they think about it.

                            Those who don't grasp this may try to deliver a steak when the customer ordered a hamburger. But by exceeding the specifications they fail to do the job, if the steak takes longer to deliver and sends the cost over budget. We all know vendors like this; they're too expensive and too slow.

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                            • tony ennis

                              #15
                              Good enough ... is perfect.
                              Depending on who decides what 'good enough' is. We had salesmen deciding 'good enough' back when I maintained a chemical plant simulator. They didn't care if it met the clients' needs or not - they just cared that it met the specs so they could get their commission. They also didn't care if the project could be done to any specs in the agreed upon time - commissions were based on sales, not net.

                              My advice is to make sure the people deciding what's 'good enough' have some skin the the game. Our sales team didn't and it showed.

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