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wdp67
02-06-2008, 01:03 PM
Does anyone know where to get a 5c collet holder that can be chucked in the 3 or 4 jaw chuck, I know that I have seen one, but can not seem to find it now.

Thanks
Walt

Rusty Marlin
02-06-2008, 01:17 PM
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=430&PARTPG=INLMK3&PMITEM=891-6015

Upper left hand corner of page

macona
02-06-2008, 02:42 PM
You could use something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/5C-COLLET-BLOCK-HEX-SQUARE-BLOCKS-CAM-NUT-CLOSER-SET_W0QQitemZ260208068176QQihZ016QQcategoryZ41946Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

ptjw7uk
02-06-2008, 02:50 PM
Macona,
not sure how you could put that 5c in a chuck as the operating handle will be in the way
Peter

Joel
02-06-2008, 02:56 PM
Collet blocks also come with threaded rings (with spanner holes) for a less intrusive method of clamping.

macona
02-06-2008, 03:23 PM
Also with the cam lock the handle sticks straight out when it is locked.

As Joel said also the ring do the job too.

The set I bought is well ground. Nice finish.

wdp67
02-06-2008, 03:45 PM
What I have seen was like a collet chuck but it had a straight shank on it so you could grab it in the chuck. It may not have been a 5c though, but I thought I saw one.

Walt

ptjw7uk
02-06-2008, 04:06 PM
I think you are thinking of a ER type collet which closes from the front face 5c collets are pulled from the rear(if youll pardon the expression) so not sure how it would work.
Peter

Rusty Marlin
02-06-2008, 04:25 PM
What I have seen was like a collet chuck but it had a straight shank on it so you could grab it in the chuck. It may not have been a 5c though, but I thought I saw one.

Walt

Oh you want this one.
http://www.kalamazooindustries.com/_admin/images/gallery01/1cc_in_chuck.jpg

third or fourth one down the page.
http://www.kalamazooindustries.com/5c_fixtures.asp

wdp67
02-06-2008, 05:05 PM
Yea thats what I am looking for!! Thanks a lot!

Walt

BobWarfield
02-06-2008, 06:57 PM
Can't quite fathom why the Kalamazoo blocks would be better than normal collet blocks. The handle definitely gets out of the way and the normal blocks are real handy on the mill.

To each his own though. The Kalamazoo blocks are definitely purdy.

Best,

BW

wdp67
02-06-2008, 07:07 PM
I do not doubt that the other type will work, I have a set of those on order, but I have to make about 500 pcs for this one particular job I am doing and it would be nice if I did not have to open the chuck to remove the part when it is finished, load the next one and continue.

Walt

kennyd4110
02-06-2008, 08:48 PM
Walt,
I was just looking at the KBC flyer and they have the Kalamazoo holder on sale for $295.50 on page 35 of the sale flyer.

wdp67
02-06-2008, 09:01 PM
Thanks for that info!! Have you seen any other's like it maybe cheaper ones? I had hoped they would not be quite that spendy, but I guess if I need it, I need it.

Thanks again!!
Walt

Rusty Marlin
02-06-2008, 09:02 PM
For a little over 3 bills you can get a Bison 5c collet chuck and a back plate so it fits your spindle from ENCO.

I don't like the look of the amount of overhang that 5C kalamazoo unit has.

wdp67
02-06-2008, 09:02 PM
Does KBC have a website? If so could you post a link?

Walt

kennyd4110
02-06-2008, 09:12 PM
Does KBC have a website? If so could you post a link?

Walt

Here you go:
http://www.kbctools.com/usa/main.cfm

But I agree with Rusty on this, you can get a Bison chuck from Enco on sale for $291.95 and it would probably run truer. You can also get decent Chinese copys for $199.95:
http://www.littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=3047

Or even this has gotten good reviews for $139.00:
http://www.cdcotools.com/index.php