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dockrat
02-28-2008, 08:05 PM
Getting kinda over the hill like I am my vision isnt what it used to be and I need all the light I can get in my work area. Tried a few thing...spotlights etc but most cast shawdows. One day I was in Home Depot and noticed a set of 12voltAC small Halo potlights designed for over the kitchen sink. They come in a set of 3...all wired up. Looked like they might work with some modification so I brought them home..stripped off the pots and then bolted the lights to 3, 2 inch cup magnets and stuck them under the head. PERFECT almost. The only thing that would have made them better was four to the set

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/Dockrat1/IMGP0971Small.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/Dockrat1/mill_lightsSmall.jpg

mjm3xs
02-28-2008, 08:12 PM
great thinkn it is always hard to see what what your doin no matter the condition of eyes or should i say age great tip.

BobC
02-28-2008, 08:25 PM
Great idea. I need somthing like that. Thanks.

torker
02-28-2008, 08:27 PM
Ernie...holy smoke I like that idea. 12V??? Is there a power supply included with those?
Thanks!
Ernie...which mill is that you got there?

dockrat
02-28-2008, 09:09 PM
Ernie...holy smoke I like that idea. 12V??? Is there a power supply included with those?
Thanks!
Ernie...which mill is that you got there?

Russ...yeah its got a little ???transformer??? (I dont do electrical)120VAC input 12VAC output. The mill is a Zay 7045M

Wow !!! did I teach an old dog new tricks??? :D

Oldbrock
02-28-2008, 09:28 PM
I've been at it for 60 years and I learn something new every day, great idea for the mill, will use it Peter

BobWarfield
02-28-2008, 09:36 PM
dockrat, how are they sealed? Will they take a coolant splash?

Looks like a wonderful idea.

Best,

BW

dockrat
02-28-2008, 09:41 PM
Bob...they have a glass cover over the lights. I'm sure they would be fine as any splash would drip right back down and not up into the fixture...never had that problem with it yet myself.

chengdave2003
02-29-2008, 08:30 AM
I bought a 48 LED microscope ring light off of Ebay for less than $50 (like the one shown at http://tinyurl.com/27c5ve ). On my Taiwanese mill (Grizzly) I removed the lower spindle bearing retainer and turned another with an extension. I turned a rubber vibration mount from a hockey puck. The rubber mount has a lip that keeps the light from falling down if the mounting screws loosen up (it hasn't happened yet). I was going to glue the rubber to the newly turned bearing retainer, but it hasn't proved necessary. The light works like a champ, and now there are no shadows when I'm trying to look around work in progress.

I don't know how coolant proof the light would be as it only has a plastic shield over the lights, though I imagine it could be sealed more. The plastic housing is a bit flimsy. I broke the dimming feature the next day by hitting it with the vise while doing some close work, and had to rewire it straight to a switch. But it broke from my inattention, and continues to work fine otherwise. I was concerned that the cheaper fluorescent lights wouldn't work as well due to vibration, but now I don't think it would be an issue. I also thought the dimming feature would be good, but I never used it and don't miss it (now that I broke it and had to rewire it).

Dave

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7924724@N04/2300244962/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7924724@N04/2299449491/in/photostream/

dockrat
02-29-2008, 12:54 PM
Dave.....Thats a great idea too!!! :)

Ernie

Duffy
02-29-2008, 02:36 PM
Another approach, that I used, is to mount an articulated arm desk lamp on a 1/2" flange on the top of the column. Ikea sells one for about $22.00. it means you have to remove the pulley cover, but does anyone leave it on? The lamp can be swung all around the work area so that you are seldom in a shadow.

Frank Ford
02-29-2008, 02:46 PM
Ooh, great idea. Well, I'm off to Home Depot. . .

torker
03-02-2008, 06:57 PM
Ernie..I also just picked up a set of these lights this morning. A project for the gurl to work on this week.
Pretty neat lil' lights alright. Better than the halogen "bedroom" lamp I use now.

dockrat
03-02-2008, 07:02 PM
good deal Russ..if you need magnets for them you can get them here..

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=310020858217&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=021 :)

fasto
03-02-2008, 11:01 PM
I just got one of these for my drill press:
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/755284/755284009200md.jpg
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=145663-1390-G3210SSI&lpage=none
and it works well. The little halogen bulb is sealed inside the reflector, so it should be somewhat splash proof.

Your Old Dog
03-03-2008, 07:16 AM
Pretty neat setup. You know if you took a 2" diameter chunk of material and slice it on a bias, you'd be able to orientate those lights so they shown right on the cutting tip instead of straight down. It would only add about 1/4" to the bulk of them. Not having seen the setup, they may work perfectly fine now.

dockrat
03-03-2008, 03:27 PM
YOD dunno....what do you think??

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/Dockrat1/IMGP1000Small.jpg

Ernie

Your Old Dog
03-03-2008, 04:29 PM
YOD dunno....what do you think??

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/Dockrat1/IMGP1000Small.jpg

Ernie

Damn site better than I can see on mine. I got an excuse for my errors. What you going to do? LOL

torker
03-03-2008, 05:11 PM
LOL! You guys...almost fightin over who's the "brightest" :D
This should be interesting to see what the gurl comes up with for putting these under the spindle on the mill.
I can't use a halo type setup...sort of a half/cockeyed halo. Also want to make them swivel a bit for different work. Ya Ya..I know... stay ahead of the Joneses and all that.
Going to make cups out of driveshaft tubing and she can make backer plates on the new washer makin gizmo.
Now I'm wondering...do I really HAVE to paint them green :D (the mill is)

gunbuilder
03-03-2008, 10:53 PM
dockrat and the group,
Don't get me wrong this is a good idea. Just one small problem my Mom had with the lights I put under her kitchen cabinets. The bulbs didn't last very long at all, it seemed like after the second year she was buying the lamps three or four at a time. I was replacing one every few weeks and she always had one dark. I hope you have better luck with yours on the mill than she had in her kitchen. I bought her new florescent lamps not long ago, the flat puck style, they are lasting just great.

I am open to any ideas, I will soon be upgrading my mill lights.

Thanks,
Paul

dockrat
03-04-2008, 01:33 AM
Damn site better than I can see on mine. I got an excuse for my errors. What you going to do? LOL

Bummer!! So now I have to come up with a better excuse for the marks on the tool post on my ball turner. Decorative etchings?????

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/Dockrat1/IMGP1002Small.jpg

torker
03-05-2008, 08:50 PM
Ernie..that's a darn nice ball turner ya made there. Sorry but if you keep this up I'm going to have to kick you out of the Noobie thread... noobie my arse :D
Anyway...I did go through with my threat about making the gurl building me a fixture/light holder gadget for my mill.
I put a lot of effort into this..lol! I dreamed up the idea and made three lil' swivel rings so the pots can swing. I even drilled and tapped them. Well ya...after she painted it I put the grubscrews in the swivel rings...lol!
Threw a bunch of steel on the bench and she made the rest.
She didn't get time to wire it up and install the lights today :( (you know how it is with help nowadays)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/torker/DSC00001-40.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/torker/DSC00002-27.jpg
Russ

torker
03-06-2008, 12:52 AM
Ernie..did you cut off all the plugs and just splice the wires...or did you just shorten the wires and still use the plugs?
Thanks!
Pssst..I was just kidding about the noobie thing :D
Russ

dockrat
03-06-2008, 01:16 AM
Ernie..did you cut off all the plugs and just splice the wires...or did you just shorten the wires and still use the plugs?
Thanks!

Russ....I cut the wires to the length I needed to fit then spliced them together into one plug. Lay on your side and look at this. :D

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/Dockrat1/IMGP0999Small.jpg

torker
03-06-2008, 01:55 AM
Ta daaa...ok, thanks! I wasn't even thinking of doing it that simple. I like it...nice and clean instal for sure.

vpt
01-30-2010, 08:01 PM
I bought a 48 LED microscope ring light off of Ebay for less than $50 (like the one shown at http://tinyurl.com/27c5ve ). On my Taiwanese mill (Grizzly) I removed the lower spindle bearing retainer and turned another with an extension. I turned a rubber vibration mount from a hockey puck. The rubber mount has a lip that keeps the light from falling down if the mounting screws loosen up (it hasn't happened yet). I was going to glue the rubber to the newly turned bearing retainer, but it hasn't proved necessary. The light works like a champ, and now there are no shadows when I'm trying to look around work in progress.

I don't know how coolant proof the light would be as it only has a plastic shield over the lights, though I imagine it could be sealed more. The plastic housing is a bit flimsy. I broke the dimming feature the next day by hitting it with the vise while doing some close work, and had to rewire it straight to a switch. But it broke from my inattention, and continues to work fine otherwise. I was concerned that the cheaper fluorescent lights wouldn't work as well due to vibration, but now I don't think it would be an issue. I also thought the dimming feature would be good, but I never used it and don't miss it (now that I broke it and had to rewire it).

Dave

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7924724@N04/2300244962/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7924724@N04/2299449491/in/photostream/



Dave, how do you like the ring LED llight compared to the flex head light on the left side of the mill?