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rolland
03-01-2008, 03:07 AM
Has anyone built a gattling gun off of the plans that being sold and available in the trade books, There seem to be two different sets and I was wanting to talk with someone that has built one or the other of the guns.
My basic interest is how available are the parts needed and whither I need something other than a mill and lathe. I would prefer to get the information from the person building the gun rather than the company supplying the information, guess a grass roots opinion.
Thanks
Rolland

J.Ramsey
03-01-2008, 05:18 AM
A local machinist built the .22 cal. version and it took him over 200 hours to build.
It's not a simple or inexpensive project by any means.
IIRC plans run anywhere from $59.00 on up depending on the source.

Sparky_NY
03-01-2008, 07:07 AM
I am in the process right now of building one from the D&E plans. I would guess about 70 percent complete.

There are 2 sets of plans out there, the D&E gun and Rg&G. They are both popular, the D&E gun is pretty much a exact scale replca and is the better looking of the two, the RG&G gun was optimized for ease of building at the sacrifice of looks.

Both guns are a complicated project but a excellent learing tool. Material costs can get carried away if you do not have a source for cheap brass, there is a LOT of brass parts in both guns. You will need to find 10 barrells (.22 caliber) to cut down and machine to size which is one of the major costs. There is a set of gears that are purchased but not expensive. The remaining parts are all made in the shop.

I would direct you to two sources for more information along with pictures of the guns and the machining. One is a Yahoo group on gatling guns (search yahoo groups for "Gatling") and the other is called "GatChat" which can be accessed through RG&G website. The yahoo group is loaded with pictures of the various parts along with some machining setups.

You will also need a rotary table with indexing plates or a indexing head to build the gun.

Sparky_NY
03-01-2008, 07:13 AM
A local machinist built the .22 cal. version and it took him over 200 hours to build.
It's not a simple or inexpensive project by any means.
IIRC plans run anywhere from $59.00 on up depending on the source.

200 hours is good. I am sure I have all of that and am only about 70% complete. Guess it all depends on how good of a machinist you are. I have a lot of time figuring out how to make various parts, studying the drawings, figuring out how the thing operates etc.

Its worth it though..... a great learning experience, enjoyable and it sure looks great when done.

PTSideshow
03-01-2008, 08:46 AM
Here are some
They are real popular subjects as there is always a number of them At N.A.M.E.S. show each year.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/DSC02131.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/DSC02132.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/DSC02174.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/DSC02175.jpg

PTSideshow
03-01-2008, 08:47 AM
Here's another company that has scaled machine gun plans. Here is a member of the forum here. Cecil Walker is his name the website is
http://www.ccsprints.com

some of the CCSprints guns
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/DSC02177.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/DSC02176.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/DSC02153.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/ptsideshow/DSC02158.jpg

japcas
03-01-2008, 10:39 AM
There are 2 sets of plans out there, the D&E gun and Rg&G. They are both popular, the D&E gun is pretty much a exact scale replca and is the better looking of the two, the D&E was optimized for ease of building at the sacrifice of looks.

I believe Sparky meant to say that the RGG gun was optimized for ease of building at the sacrifice of looks.

I'm building the D&E gun right now and have lost track of time involved with the build. I work on it for a while and then have some other projects going too. I have seen the drawings from RGG also and would say that the D&E plans are a lot nicer. They are cad drawn and have one part per 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I hate working off of gigantic prints because I don't really have the room in my shop for them and that's how the RGG plans are. I'm not knocking them though, they do make a nice gun too, it comes down to personal preference.

I'm probably around 50% done with mine so I've got a while to go on it. Like everyone else said, if you can get your brass cheap they aren't too expensive to build. They sure are a lot of fun to build and will definitely turn some heads whenever you take them out. If you are willing to make a big commitment and except a long term project then I'd definitely say go for it. I don't believe you will regret it.

Bill Pace
03-01-2008, 10:58 AM
My friend and I strongly considered the Gatling before settling on the CCS Browning MG plans, deciding that our level of experience wasnt up to that yet. We did pretty extensive research on the two sets of plans and arrived at almost exactly what Jonathan (japacas) says ... that the D&E plans were more desirable.

We, in fact, went so far as to order a set, and that was really the deciding factor that our level of expertise wasnt up to handling it. I went ahead and pursued/looked into getting the barrels, and I never did find a decent source for them ... another factor. This was 3 yrs ago, and with the cost of brass now ..... (FWIW, I bought some scrap brass this week ---$2.80 lb)

Uncle O
03-01-2008, 11:03 AM
Is there a web addy for D&E ?
Kerry

Sparky_NY
03-01-2008, 11:06 AM
I believe Sparky meant to say that the RGG gun was optimized for ease of building at the sacrifice of looks.

I'm building the D&E gun right now and have lost track of time involved with the build. I work on it for a while and then have some other projects going too. I have seen the drawings from RGG also and would say that the D&E plans are a lot nicer. They are cad drawn and have one part per 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I hate working off of gigantic prints because I don't really have the room in my shop for them and that's how the RGG plans are. I'm not knocking them though, they do make a nice gun too, it comes down to personal preference.

I'm probably around 50% done with mine so I've got a while to go on it. Like everyone else said, if you can get your brass cheap they aren't too expensive to build. They sure are a lot of fun to build and will definitely turn some heads whenever you take them out. If you are willing to make a big commitment and except a long term project then I'd definitely say go for it. I don't believe you will regret it.

Yep, I screwed up, its the RG gun that is simpler.

I agree with everything you said. The D&E cad drawings are real nice, they are in adobe pdf format so you can print "working" copies for markup etc. You can also zoom in greatly which comes in handy. Along with the drawings is a 3D isometric view of each part, almost like a photo so you can actually see what it looks like.

The pictures in the post above are some of the finest pictures I have seen of completed guns!!!! There are many pictures around the web, the guns are nice but the pictures only so so.

One other tidbit of info...... Doug, that does the D&E drawings has always been only a phone call away for any questions. He has been doing the scale gun since 1950 and owned real gatling guns as well. Unfortunately, Doug had a severe heart attach early in the new year and is extremely sick. He is home but only half his heart functioning. I got this sad news when I called a week ago and talked with his lovely wife.

Sparky_NY
03-01-2008, 11:13 AM
Is there a web addy for D&E ?
Kerry

http://www.modelgatlinggunplans.com/


and here is the RG site

http://www.gatlingguns.net/

japcas
03-01-2008, 12:22 PM
I forgot to mention that Doug wasn't doing so great healthwise. Thanks for reminding us of that Sparky. I too have called and talked with Doug. Excellent guy to talk too. He answers your questions and doesn't seem to be in a big hurry to get off of the phone like some places you call. He never made it seem like you were inconveniencing him one bit and he always told me to make sure and call back if I had any more questions. That is hard to find these days. I hope his health gets better and he is able to enjoy this hobby for many more years.

rolland
03-01-2008, 01:57 PM
I apprecate all the help, I have almost finished up my second CCS gun so I need another project. Thought the Gatling might keep me out of mischief for a while.

Sparky_NY
03-03-2008, 10:28 PM
I forgot to mention that Doug wasn't doing so great healthwise. Thanks for reminding us of that Sparky. I too have called and talked with Doug. Excellent guy to talk too. He answers your questions and doesn't seem to be in a big hurry to get off of the phone like some places you call. He never made it seem like you were inconveniencing him one bit and he always told me to make sure and call back if I had any more questions. That is hard to find these days. I hope his health gets better and he is able to enjoy this hobby for many more years.


Read the sad news a few minutes ago on the yahoo gatling gun forum posted by a close friend of Doug. Sad day indeed.

andy_b
03-03-2008, 11:03 PM
Read the sad news a few minutes ago on the yahoo gatling gun forum posted by a close friend of Doug. Sad day indeed.

man, that sucks. i chatted with him and his wife at Cabin Fever a few years back when i bought his plans. he even told me, "just call any time if you have questions."

andy b.

Ken_Shea
03-03-2008, 11:23 PM
Sad, I feel bad about that news.
He was a pleasure to talk to, that's for sure, had a good sense of humor, never made you feel like you were imposing upon his time or left you feeling ignorant. His wife usually answered the phone and she had a similar sweet disposition.

Not a single one of us that could not improve upon ourselves by being as he was.