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madman
07-08-2008, 03:35 PM
I been trying to download ad-aware free program. Now it goes in but when i try to update it it sits a while then says im not connected to the computer internet. Now i disconnected my norton anti virus (which sucks) and tried a few more times and same thing. Any ideas? Also my nortons about to expire . Do you guys have good luck with the AVG ?/ I had it once and got viruses immediately?? Whats the best to use for free?? Thanx Mike

SGW
07-08-2008, 04:20 PM
I've been using AVG Free for a while now and like it. It's caught a few things that have come through. I think it's good.

I tried Ad-Aware at one point and found it to be a CPU hog, so I gave it up in favor of Spybot. I think AVG FRee V8 has spyware detection in addition to virus detection, so at this point I could probably get rid of Spybot...but I keep it, anyway.

n.b. If/when you install AVG Free, you *DO* need to at least disable, if not delete, Norton, or AVG won't install properly.

tattoomike68
07-08-2008, 05:15 PM
I been trying to download ad-aware free program. Now it goes in but when i try to update it it sits a while then says im not connected to the computer internet. Now i disconnected my norton anti virus (which sucks) and tried a few more times and same thing. Any ideas? Also my nortons about to expire . Do you guys have good luck with the AVG ?/ I had it once and got viruses immediately?? Whats the best to use for free?? Thanx Mike

For spyware run "spybot search and destroy" about once a week.
http://www.safer-networking.org/index2.html

I think virus scanners are a scam, we have not used them for years and I run some adult sites and some hacker/cracker type sites. Email and porn sites are where you get that crap along with P2P downloads.

you can use this online scanner for free.

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

gnm109
07-08-2008, 05:23 PM
I used a free version of Ad-aware several years ago. It's done by Lavasoft, a Swedish company. Well, a couple of years ago, I foolishly did an update and got the new version. It would no longr remove the unwanted files. If told me that it could only do a certain amount of them and that I would have to update (read that pay $$$) to be able to do all unwanted files.

I understand the need to make money but I was uneasy about paying for the "pro version" since I wasn't sure that it would do as they advertised. So I uninstalled it and cleared the registry of all references to it.

I used to have Norton (Symantec) also and it got to be where it basically took over the computer. It's way too large a program and much too instrusive.

I also had McAfee for a while that came with my new Dell Desktop and Laptop as a pre-paid version for a year. It was a CPU hog, too, so I didn't renew.

I now have no separate anti-virus program or anti-spam program. Instead I pay the phone company that also handles my internet and e-mail $4.00 a month flat rate to do that for me. Since I started that, I receive no spam or anything else I don't want, including pop-ups.

The search goes on for a good CD Burner though. The last one I had was Roxio Sonic, versions 7, 8,9, 10, and 11. It came as a paid version with my computers and I updated. The last version took about 500mb and was user unfriendly. Out it went. The search goes on. ;)


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tattoomike68
07-08-2008, 05:32 PM
The search goes on for a good CD Burner though. The last one I had was Roxio Sonic, versions 7, 8,9, 10, and 11. It came as a paid version with my computers and I updated. The last version took about 500mb and was user unfriendly. Out it went. The search goes on. ;)


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Sony makes a good burner.

airsmith282
07-08-2008, 05:54 PM
AVG totaly rocks and if it found a cirus then it works right,, norton is a joke and half , so is adaware and many other like macafee as well is total junk..

for the best anti spyware program there is use webroot spysweeper

now for the free lesson

back up importane data reformat your system and reload fresh then add in Avg and spysweeper

any other prorams you have tried and or been using will leave traces beihine and do not toaly uninstall and also melt them selfs to other system files and i dont care how good you think you are you wont remove this stuff and they will cause conflicks with other stuff , example is "new anti virus or anti spyware programs
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ckelloug
07-08-2008, 06:14 PM
I have to agree with airsmith that webroot spysweeper is very good if not the best spyware program I've used cleaning up other people's computers. I run linux and only clean up windows PC's at the request of others.

For antivirus, I like f-prot from iceland http://www.f-prot.com. It's no-BS and they give you a license to run it on all of your personal computers (up to 5 I think). The only thing is that when you buy direct, you'll see your credit card charged in icelandic Kronauer.
It's also cheaper than that crapware Norton and Mcafeces.

Spybot is pretty decent but not as good as webroot. I haven't tried adaware lately but it certainly wasn't crippled last time I did.

I generally don't use antivirus software when I have to run windows but I make sure not to use outbreak (I mean Outlook) and I avoid Internet Explorer and use firefox with adblock, flash block, and noscript, and disabling java.

Regards all,

Cameron

Quetico Bob
07-08-2008, 06:56 PM
AVG is very good, most of the new install server techs use it around here. The unfortunate problem with any virus program is that they embed themselves in the root. Simply turning off a virus program does not get rid of it, even uninstalling them doesnít and this causes conflicts especially when your installing a different virus program. Best advice, either stick with the original scanner you have installed or be prepared to do a complete system reinstall to change if things donít work out. This usually only takes the better part of a day of frustration. Best way I have found is to save (copy), not back up, your important files to an external hard drive. Donít forget to export your email and addresses to file and your internet favorites. No easy way around it in my experience. I usually do this once every year or two anyway just to keep things running smooth.

Donít know about the crapware thing, been using Norton for about 8 years. Just keep it updated. As with anything it has its annoyances but works for me.

Cheers, Bob

biometrics
07-08-2008, 09:45 PM
This is all IMHO...but I am a Computer Security professional who consults to federal agencies on how to protect their systems that are connected to the internet...and also an amateur machinist.

I come to this forum for help on my amateur skills, but let me speak from my professional side.

You folks are confusing Spyware Detectors and Anti-Virus programs. They are both essential software for internet users but perform two different functions, and must work hand in hand.

Ad-Aware (the free version) works fine if you update it. You may have to disable some firewall stuff to get it to install properly because the Antivirus may think it is evil stuff.

My employer (a fortune 500 corporation of over 44,000 seats of Windows) has used the corporate version of Norton/Symantec Antivirus for over 10 years, and I have nothing but good things to say about it. They also like and require spysweeper on company machines, but I think it is a CPU hog. At home I run the free version of Ad-Aware about once a week to clean out all the tracking cookie trash the websites install without your knowledge... I update it every time it reports that a new update is available...

At home I use Symantec AntiVirus because it works, and it is free to employees. Like anything else that is protection if you want it to do a good job, you have to keep it updated DAILY... VIRUS strains are released DAILY by the evil folks and the patches are released DAILY by the white hat vendors. The automatic update feature in Symantec only updates you weekly... The first thing I do every morning is update the antivirus definitions BEFORE I check email or anything else. I haven't had a virus for over 7 years, and the last time I got one, it was intercepted by Symantec and neutralized. I visit the hacker sites as part of my job... They are LOADED with viruses... but they don't get through what is running on my personal or corporate machines...

McAfee and F-Protect are both good programs, but I run with Symantec because I don't have to pay for it. Using the internet without using an antivirus program is like having sex with a stranger with no protection... its simply foolish.