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oldtiffie
08-16-2008, 03:32 AM
I had an email message from the American Machinist (AM)Forum this week.

I have noticed that AM (to which I subscribe) has not published any links to posts or threads on Practical Machinist (PM) lately.

Has there been a "falling out" or "parting of the ways" here?

I have had a look at it and it seems OK so far as I can tell.

Any comments or advice?

The main links in the AM email is:
http://forums.americanmachinist.com/

The text of the body of the message was:


American Machinist launches new forum website – American Machinist Forums

We’re pleased to announce the launch of American Machinist Forums, an online discussion board operated directly by American Machinist. This replaces our former affiliation with an independent forum site.

We believe this is an important addition to the American Machinist line of media products, because it provides the easiest way to have a true dialogue – not only with our staff, but more important with your peers in the metal-cutting business. I hope you’ll take advantage of this ability to share your questions and ideas about the art and science of our industry.

While the new forum covers a full range of metal-cutting topics, it also reflects the American Machinist mission with sections emphasizing such key areas of competitiveness as benchmarking and operating excellence.

There is a special section for alumni of the annual American Machinist Machine Shop Workshop, and another dedicated to our “Best Machine Shops” program, which showcases world class operators based here in the United States.

The forum site is open for anyone to read, and all it takes to join the conversation is a simple, free and non-threatening registration.

I hope you’ll visit the American Machinist Forums at http://forums.americanmachinist.com; you can also get there from a prominent link on our homepage at www.americanmachinist.com.

toastydeath
08-16-2008, 03:56 AM
All I know is that AM and PM are no longer affiliated with one another; I don't think the particulars were made public by either party. If they were, I missed it.

I personally don't see the need for yet another machining forum and view this as a bad thing. CNCZone is horrible enough, and for some reason I get the impending feeling that the new American Machinist forum is going to follow their formula.

Joel
08-16-2008, 04:41 AM
Most of the story:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php?t=160977

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php?t=160990

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php?t=163059

JCHannum
08-16-2008, 07:53 AM
Since it has been in operation for about a month and managed to garner less than 300 members & a total of 73 threads, I would say the response is underwhelming.

The attitude displayed by AM while involved with the PM site PO'ed many of the members and readers there. Those people apparently have no desire to go to a weak clone of PM when the original is alive and well. I am among those people.

JoeFin
08-16-2008, 09:58 AM
There was some disagreement concerning the ads at the top of the page

Personally, I would not have thought it a sufficient reason to scrap the relationship as the problems created were solely the responsibility of the advertisers themselves.

BTW: I’ve noticed all the ads are now reduced in size and bandwidth

PTSideshow
08-16-2008, 10:01 AM
Another case of follow the money, could it be a possibility no agreement on the split of the venues caused the real split of the forums?
As been said people don't come just because it is there. So time will tell.

Lew Hartswick
08-16-2008, 10:31 AM
It looks way too much like the CNC Zone to find anything and the
link that oldtiffie pasted dosent work.
[ http://forums.americanmachinist.com; (http://forums.americanmachinist.com/;) ]
...lew...

JoeFin
08-16-2008, 01:28 PM
Another case of follow the money, could it be a possibility no agreement on the split of the venues caused the real split of the forums?

No.

It was more of the ads were so bandwidth heavy and laiden with pop-unders they caused really slow page loads and "I think" the crashing of the website.

Your Old Dog
08-16-2008, 02:38 PM
Won't have to worry about me leaving here for there! I don't like forums that have a special section for every conceivable sub-topic surrounding a topic. Takes forever to read. It's also very easy to miss a topic you would not necessarily have skimmed by. I view a lot of topics just to see what they are about. With the AM style of forum I would miss a lot of stuff I get here, yes, even the OT stuff.

dp
08-16-2008, 04:24 PM
It looks way too much like the CNC Zone to find anything and the
link that oldtiffie pasted dosent work.
[ http://forums.americanmachinist.com; (http://forums.americanmachinist.com/;) ]
...lew...

Looks like the bbs code included the semicolon at the end of the url - leave that off and it works fine:

http://forums.americanmachinist.com/

oldtiffie
08-16-2008, 10:15 PM
That's so Dennis.

I cut and pasted the link I was using so as to be sure I had one that worked.

I cut and pasted the email "as is" without editing. I did notice that the colon was appended but left it "as is".

I notice that the number of members is low - yet.

I have nothing against PM at all (I subscribe to that too) as it is very informative. I just don't post there.

Its just that AM seems aimed at the"Professional" (read: with a University Degree) and PM at the commercial machine shop practitioner.

I thought and still do think that a broader perspective and scope on things related to engineering in general could only be for the best/better.

I can see no reason why this forum (HSM), PM and AM cannot co-exist amicably.

I have a quite open mind in this regard and will neither pre-judge nor prejudice any discussion.

A broader mind coupled with a broader vision and discussion forums open to new and other ideas and concepts is no bad thing in my opinion.