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derekm
11-13-2008, 05:18 AM
After reading a number of posts on PM there appears to be some confusion over lubricant names and application. So I did the research and here are the results for the Mobil lubricants commonly mentioned on HSM. I have included the synopsis from the data sheet as well as the table of names against ISO viscosity. The links go straight to the Mobil technical datasheet I hope this is of some use. Not all are available in all countries. Availability checked for Australia, Canada, USA, UK. All info from this website link (http://www.exxonmobil.com/pdssearch/search.asp)

The Mobil DTE named series link (http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobil_DTE_Named.asp) are "premium performance circulating lubricants designed for applications including steam and hydro turbine sets and other systems where long lubricant service life is required." and "This product series is recommended for continous service in the lubrication of plain and rolling bearings and parallel shaft gearing"

ISO 32 DTE Light
ISO 46 DTE Medium
ISO 68 DTE Heavy Medium
ISO 100 DTE Heavy


The Mobil DTE 20 series link (http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobil_DTE_20.asp) are "supreme performance anti-wear hydraulic oils designed to satisfy a wide range of hydraulic equipment requirements"

ISO 10 DTE 21
ISO 22 DTE 22
ISO 32 DTE 24
ISO 46 DTE 25

The Mobil Vactra named series link (http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobilVactraNamed_DoubleLetterSeries.asp )are "high performance general purpose lubricants intended for non-critical industrial applications where lubricant is supplied intermittently such as in all-loss systems"
(does not appear to be available in Australia, Canada, or UK)

ISO 32 Vactra Light
ISO 46 Vactra Medium
ISO 68 Vactra Heavy Medium
ISO 100 Vactra Heavy

The Mobil Vactra numbered series link (http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobil_Vactra_Numbered.asp) are "premium-quality lubricants specifically designed to fully meet the requirements for accuracy and parts finish of today's high production machine tools" and "satisfying the stringent demands of the slide ways while meeting the requirements of the other lubricated components of the machine tools"

ISO 32 Vactra 1
ISO 68 Vactra 2
ISO 150 Vactra 3
ISO 220 Vactra 4

Mobile Vacuoline 100 series link (http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/ glxxenindmomobil_vacuoline_100.pdf) are "The Mobil Vacuoline 100 range is a series of extra high quality circulating system oils primarily intended for the lubrication of plain bearings in systems designed for full fluid lubrication, particularly those subjected to heavy
water contamination , such as may be used for back-up roll bearings in metal rolling mills." (does not appear to be available in Canada,Australia or UK)

ISO 150 Vacuoline 128
ISO 220 Vacuoline 133
ISO 320 Vacuoline 137
ISO 460 Vacuoline 146
ISO 680 Vacuoline 148

The Mobil Vacuoline 500 Series link (http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobil_Vacuoline_500.asp) are "high performance heavy duty circulating oils designed for the demands of No-Twist Rod mills, however their all round performance makes them a excellent choice for circulation systems lubricating gears and bearings"

ISO 150 Vacuoline 528
ISO 220 Vacuoline 533
ISO 320 Vacuoline 537
ISO 460 Vacuoline 546
ISO 680 Vacuoline 548

Mobil Vacuoline 1400 Series link (http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobil_Vacuoline_1400.asp) are "extra high performance lubricants specifically designed to satisfy the requirements of machine tools that use one oil for both hydraulic systems and way lubrication. They are formulated using high quality mineral base oils and a unique additive technology that provides excellent lubricity properties to eliminate stick-slip and chatter of heavily loaded and vertical box ways." (does not appear to be available in UK)

ISO 32 Vacuoline 1405
ISO 68 Vacuoline 1409
ISO 220 Vacuoline 1419

The Mobil Velocite Oil Numbered Series link (http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobil_Velocite_Oil_Numbered.asp) are "premium performance products primarily designed for the lubrication of high-speed spindles in machine tools. They are also used in some critical hydraulic, circulation systems and air line oilers where the appropriate viscosity grade is selected."

ISO 2 Velocite No 3
ISO 10 Velocite No 6
ISO 15 Velocite No 8
ISO 22 Velocite No 10

derekm
11-13-2008, 06:25 AM
added Mobil Vacuoline 1400 Series oils "extra high performance lubricants specifically designed to satisfy the requirements of machine tools that use one oil for both hydraulic systems and way lubrication. They are formulated using high quality mineral base oils and a unique additive technology that provides excellent lubricity properties to eliminate stick-slip and chatter of heavily loaded and vertical box ways."

macona
11-13-2008, 06:44 AM
According to the Mobil engineers the tackifier were removed from the Vactra series way lube. Vacuoline has the tackifier in it.

I used to use Vactra #2 then tried Vacuoline 1409. Big difference. Sticks to the ways much better than Vactra #2. Thats what the tackifier do.

Heres a thread on PM about it with a guy in the printing industry who was affected by the change:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php?t=86367

derekm
11-13-2008, 06:53 AM
Country availablitiy added

oldtiffie
11-13-2008, 06:55 AM
Why be mean and stingy with such a reliable and very cost-effective product such as the correct lubricant/s for your machine/s?

I use the product recommended by the Dealer from whom I buy all of my lathes, mills and grinders from.

He recommends and sells this oil - and he sells mainly to the "Trade" - not the "blow-ins" and "tyre-kickers" that want "cheap".

This is what he recommends and which I use and have no complaints about. It works very well as gear-box etc. oil as well as way oil:
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Lubrication/Machine_lub_oil1.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa294/oldtiffie/Lubrication/Machine_lub_oil2.jpg

macona
11-13-2008, 07:00 AM
ISO 46 is awful light for a way lube.

oldtiffie
11-13-2008, 07:14 AM
Thanks macona.

Perhaps it is for heavy machines and machines used "heavily" (including those that are "hogged and flogged").

My machines are "light" and used "lightly" and so it does very well - for me.

Many think that "ways" are just that - "ways". Not so. Anything that is required to apply or resist dynamic reactive loads as part of a machining process is a "way" for this purpose. This includes but is not limited to: lead-screws and nuts, thrust-blocks and bearings, quills, gibs etc. etc.

JCHannum
11-13-2008, 07:43 AM
The Valvoline Ultramax 46 is hydraulic oil. It is good for some gearbox and bearing applications. It will oil your ways and keep them from rusting and maybe make things slide a bit easier. It is not way oil and will not work as well as the real deal regardless of how much it costs.

derekm
11-13-2008, 08:29 AM
According to the Mobil engineers the tackifier were removed from the Vactra series way lube. Vacuoline has the tackifier in it.

I used to use Vactra #2 then tried Vacuoline 1409. Big difference. Sticks to the ways much better than Vactra #2. Thats what the tackifier do.

Heres a thread on PM about it with a guy in the printing industry who was affected by the change:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php?t=86367
for some reason Vacuoline 1400 series is not in the UK or France but is in Germany Spain, Netherlands and Belgium :confused:

miker
11-13-2008, 02:53 PM
Derek, thanks for going to the trouble and for posting. There is a lot of good information there.

I use an Australian product, Gulfwestern Tacway oil..

http://www.gulfwestern.com.au/GW%20Specialities.html


Rgds