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Asquith
01-09-2009, 10:00 AM
Link to a French machinistsí website:-

http://www.usinages.com/index.html

Translated to Englishish (by Google):-
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.usinages.com/index.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dusinages%2Bforum%2Bindex%26hl%3Den

Interesting to see different types of machines, and some old friends (the lathes.co.uk website is frequently cited!).

It will help to know that Tour = lathe, and Google translates motor as engine.

rockrat
01-09-2009, 09:12 PM
I had to take a look around this page. Now, dont get me wrong, but the first post I looked at had this photo on it. This seems to be a lathe part hanging above the fire. I have to translate this page and see why this part is being burned at the stake. Wasn't Joan of Arc burned like this? Gawd I wonder what this part did to the owner.

Ok, honestly, it looks as though the fellow found this lathe and it was so dirty, he was (maybe?) heating this up to remove grease?

http://www.usinages.com/files/thumbs/t_pict0022_856.jpg

rock



Ok, I will add, I am enjoying the site translated. It is nice to see friends in other countries who enjoy the same hobbies as we do. Some of the machines are all rounded on the corners and art deco like.

wierdscience
01-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Maybe the're doing a preheat for some brazing or welding?

Neat site,wish I had learned French from my grandmother.

Optics Curmudgeon
01-09-2009, 09:50 PM
Goes to show, things are the same all over. A quick look at the Google translation shows threads on titanium machining and lubricants, sounding like they do here and on other boards. Check out "choice oil SIM T6", there's a post saying that tractor oil should be good enough.

Joe

miker
01-09-2009, 10:49 PM
I wonder if they know anything about preloading 20 year old Angular contact bearings??

How can we ask? :)

Rgds

dp
01-09-2009, 11:14 PM
I wonder if they endlessly pound the drum of intolerance regarding China, Mexico, etc. Hopefully not.

A.K. Boomer
01-10-2009, 01:08 AM
sounds like a real fun bunch, Rockrat I think its just cheap ass lawn furniture tubing and there burning the paint off of it for some reason??? or trying to build a peugot?

MCS
01-10-2009, 06:48 AM
Hello,

Noticed that the French all start their posts with :"bonjour", "bonsoir", etc", before they cut each others throats?

I read a research of this cultural depended behaviour on forums all over Europe. The Dutch came out as rude. That's also true.

SGW
01-10-2009, 08:32 AM
The French for "turning" seems to get translated as "shooting." There are still a few bugs in this automatic translation stuff! Interesting site though.

rockrat
01-10-2009, 08:41 AM
sounds like a real fun bunch, Rockrat I think its just cheap ass lawn furniture tubing and there burning the paint off of it for some reason??? or trying to build a peugot?

My father once owned a Peugeot before I or my sister were around. He said that it had some type of air suspension where they didn't include a jack because you could raise one tire at a time off the ground with it. Always made me wonder about the cars.

I read the thread a little more and the fellow talks about using a press later on. I'm guessing that he was indeed preheating the part but maybe to force something in or out instead of brazing.

I have to admit the more I read the more I am enjoying the site. I might lurk there for a bit and just gain ideas.


Which brings to mind, I had a Russian fellow working for me at the old shop once. He was a good guy but always saw things different. Thats why I liked him. I could bounce ideas around with him and he would always have a totally different spin on things. A bit Rube Goldberg if you know what I mean.

He told me once about running a shop over in Russia and needing an induction heat treat machine. The shop was not allowed to buy one. Something about the government had to approve the purchase of the machine if it was not for military use. Anyway they didn't get approval for it. So he designed the mechanicals and a buddy did the electricals.

They used it a few times and before long the KGB was knocking on the door of the shop. Turns out that the local military kept getting a stray signal of some sorts on what ever funky spy equipment they were using on their own people and this induction machine was giving off the stray signals when it was in use.

Somehow he got out of it without much issue and they built a Faraday cage of some sort (he used a different name, they called it after some Russian guy that they thought came up with it first, sounds as though they did this quite a bit) and put it over the machine to continue to use it.

Ok, enough hijacking, back to your normally scheduled thread on French machining websites.


rock~

Dunc
01-10-2009, 08:56 AM
Dunno about the Peugeot (and I am not disputing it) but this one - the big, black car used to transport all the high government officials - also had that feature. Another one that has since been resurrected is headlights that swiveled in concert with the steering.

madman
01-10-2009, 09:19 AM
FROGS?? Maybe they eat there Dead Machinery Tool parts???

A.K. Boomer
01-10-2009, 10:42 AM
Dunno about the Peugeot (and I am not disputing it) but this one - the big, black car used to transport all the high government officials - also had that feature. Another one that has since been resurrected is headlights that swiveled in concert with the steering.


Yes thats what i was thinking --- I didnt know Peugeot had one also but I can attest that Citroen did although it was hydraulic not pneumatic --- Iv worked on their "self leveling brains" before,
They were a french built car with an Italian V/6 Mazzeratti engine, they were actually pretty slippery...
Im told that the french perfected suspension because they dont maintain their roads very well, Im told that they also perfected "parfume" due to the fact that they dont bath to often -- and they also perfected the use of spices due to the fact that they were the last of the euro's to adopt refrigeration, so the meats and stuff would spoil -- but they knew how to cover it up, Good things can come out of doing stuff assbackwards i guess.

John Stevenson
01-10-2009, 10:54 AM
All our vehicles for the last 10 or 12 years have had Peugeot diesel engines in them, cars and trucks.
I won't buy anything else for economy and reliability.
Gert's old car used to do a genuine 70 to the gallon and out drag most others from the lights.

Quite funny really seeing this elderly lady in a little red car getting away first.

They also built the very first 4 valve DOHC in 1913 very advanced for the day.

A.K. Boomer
01-10-2009, 11:26 AM
Peugeot also had a crude desmodramic in 1909, thats pretty amazing,

Iv worked on quite a few in the 80's maybe early 90's over here but never remember them with any kind of citroen type suspenders

They were big on diesels like you say.

Circlip
01-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Errr,the clue is in the company name,----- Peugeot / Citroen,they amagamated years ago. Had three Citroen GS's in sucsession, the only car that every time you turn the ignition on, you get an instant errection. Haven't driven a turbo Peugeot diesel John but the three I have driven 1.4, 1.9 and 2.4 were inflexible if you didn't keep the revs up (AX, BX and a Sierra) Found the CAV 1.6 in the Escort an absolute belter.

Regards Ian.

John Stevenson
01-10-2009, 04:04 PM
Had a 2.5 normal in a Ducatto van followed by a turbo 2.5 in a Boxer van. cars were straight 1.9 in a ZX and current one is a 1.9 turbo in a 406.

To be honest there wasn't much difference in the vans other than the turbo makes the Boxer very cammy, the straight was better at hill climbing.
The ZX was OK as a 1.9 engine is a car as small and light as this was over powered, the 406 is about equal given a heavier body offset against the higher power of the turbo.

miker
01-10-2009, 04:29 PM
"Quite funny really seeing this elderly lady in a little red car getting away first"

Oh Boy!! That would have been when Gert's MOTHER was driving it of course!

Rgds

jkilroy
01-10-2009, 04:34 PM
Anyone figured out the translation for chainsaw bar oil and searched for that??? That has to be a universal question.

ckelloug
01-10-2009, 04:41 PM
I've posted over there a few times on their equivalent of the CNCZONE Epoxy Granite thread in my mediocre French and everyone there was very friendly.

--Cameron

saltmine
01-10-2009, 04:54 PM
Maybe they're trying to heat up the part so the bushing will fall out...
I had a French Renault, years ago...Pretty good little car, rode like a Cadillac, handled like a Ferrari, and got 48mpg...I eventually sold it for four times what I paid for it....the guy is probably still driving it.
I don't think your father had a Peugeot, Rockrat...The only French car that comes to mind with air over hydraulic suspension is the Citroen. And they had ride height adjustable suspension, and didn't include a jack. I used to work on an occasional European car out on the "left coast", and remember one of my customers who owned a Citroen. He had a flat tire on the freeway, and when he went to change it, discovered the spare was flat....So, he retracted the wheel hub where the flat tire was, and drove to our shop on three wheels...On the way, he got a stern talking to by a puzzled Highway Patrolman...

JCHannum
01-10-2009, 04:55 PM
I had to take a look around this page. Now, dont get me wrong, but the first post I looked at had this photo on it. This seems to be a lathe part hanging above the fire. I have to translate this page and see why this part is being burned at the stake. Wasn't Joan of Arc burned like this? Gawd I wonder what this part did to the owner.

Ok, honestly, it looks as though the fellow found this lathe and it was so dirty, he was (maybe?) heating this up to remove grease?

http://www.usinages.com/files/thumbs/t_pict0022_856.jpg



I think is is a home made wood bed lathe after a flame war discussing the build.

Teenage_Machinist
01-10-2009, 06:27 PM
:d :d :d :d \


Lol!

A.K. Boomer
01-10-2009, 07:16 PM
I think is is a home made wood bed lathe after a flame war discussing the build.


Dont laugh ---
Anyone notice the reservoir and place to pour from that huge piece of iron,,, think maybe for a second they may be smelting some jatoba wood and using it to re-cast this mythical wood in a totally new configuration???

(don't count Evan out ---- all one needs to do is look at what he's achieved with his aluminum mill to realize he's the real deal) Yes he's an ass too, but aren't we all?


You guys give me a little time and I'll figure out a way to defuse this situation:rolleyes:

dockrat
01-10-2009, 07:35 PM
think maybe for a second they may be smelting some jatoba wood and using it to re-cast this mythical wood in a totally new configuration???

OK I refuse to get into the personality thing that is going on here right now but I just want to say that jatoba is NOT mythical :) My woodturning friend had a blank that he had laminated together out of jatoba and he couldn't touch it on his wood lathe so I tried it on my metal lathe with a carbide insert. Believe me...that stuff is HARD!!! It cut just like a piece of steel with a great finish. All I had to do was give it a quick pass with some emory followed with some wax and the finish was awsome.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/Dockrat1/bowl_al1.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/Dockrat1/bowl_al2.jpg

.RC.
01-10-2009, 07:38 PM
The French for "turning" seems to get translated as "shooting." There are still a few bugs in this automatic translation stuff! Interesting site though.


It's a wonder it didn't get translated into "we surrender"... :D:D

A.K. Boomer
01-10-2009, 07:49 PM
OK I refuse to get into the personality thing that is going on here right now but I just want to say that jatoba is NOT mythical :) My woodturning friend had a blank that he had laminated together out of jatoba and he couldn't touch it on his wood lathe so I tried it on my metal lathe with a carbide insert. Believe me...that stuff is HARD!!! It cut just like a piece of steel with a great finish. All I had to do was give it a quick pass with some emory followed with some wax and the finish was awsome.




Thats exactly why I said "dont count Evan out"!

Hey,,, you sure thats not mahogany??? (just kidding) (same grain pattern though)

Edit; by the way, thats one beautiful bowl --- so cool that you intermingled it with metal too.