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G1K
01-12-2009, 07:51 PM
I posted this over on PM in the Monarch section, but I know some here don't go over there. Can ya tell I'm like a proud papa on this one..

I decided I needed a new lathe and have been searching for a particular model for a few years on and off.


I found an Monarch 10EE on craigslist in I think in July or August ’08 and drove about 80 miles to see it. It was a mess, but I bought it any way.

Here’s the before shot from the day I initially looked at it
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/frontvew.jpg

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/headend01-1.jpg

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/head01.jpg

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/tailstock.jpg


Continued in the next post


Ryan

G1K
01-12-2009, 07:51 PM
Here it is arriving home:

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/home02.jpg
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/home01.jpg

Some pics of stripping, cleaning, cleaning and some more cleaning:
Motor/generator unit out

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/motorout01-1.jpg

all cleaned up

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/motorgen02.jpg

G1K
01-12-2009, 07:52 PM
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/oldpaint.jpg
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/motorout.jpg

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/stripping01.jpg

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/monarchheadstockendclean2.jpg

G1K
01-12-2009, 07:52 PM
And finally the other day I got everything put back together:

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/monarch07.jpg
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/monarch06.jpg

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/monarch02.jpg
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/monarch01.jpg

G1K
01-12-2009, 07:53 PM
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/monarch08.jpg
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/gonekayatgmailcom/monarch05.jpg

I still have a few electrical things to work out, and get everything dialed in but the hard part is now over with.

In case you're wondering about the color, machine tool grey is not an exciting color for me, and orange is my favorite color. I've never seen an orange 10EE, so I figured why not...

Ryan

oil mac
01-12-2009, 08:01 PM
Ryan,

That is a very nice overhaul, its looking a million dollars, How does she run, Have you done much machining with her yet?
You have good reasons to feel proud, for your hard work. A quality machine to treasure

mototed
01-12-2009, 08:06 PM
Wow
Nice machine.
But I have to ask, Is that Kubota Orange. I've painted a lot of stuff in my shop that color and love it. I painted a street bike with it and then saw a jeep at a gas station and knew right away what that guy had used.
Sweet lathe, I know you will enjoy it.

Ted

DENedbalek
01-12-2009, 08:06 PM
What a transformation. How many hours of sweat did you put into it? How much parts replacement / repair did you have to do?

Wonderful looking machine Ryan.

wierdscience
01-12-2009, 08:09 PM
Nice job,that much cleaning and scraping requires the patience of a saint.

How long did the job take?

rockrat
01-12-2009, 08:09 PM
Fantastic. Let us know how you do on the electricals. The 10EE's that I used had large rectifier tubes in the bottom of the lathe that would give us fits at times.

Nice job though. If you have the $$$ Monarch will come and regrind the ways for you. :D

Keep us posted on your progress. I'm jealous.

rock~

HSS
01-12-2009, 08:11 PM
Beautiful work Ryan, and a nice color to boot, Home Depot Orange just like tony stewart. LOL:D :D

Edit: Or maybe the General Lee!!

Peter.
01-12-2009, 08:16 PM
Cracking job - I bet some hours went into that!

BadDog
01-12-2009, 08:24 PM
Amazing work, love the color! Some day...

Doc Nickel
01-12-2009, 08:41 PM
Well, I can honestly say that's not the color I would have chosen, but barring that trivial fact, fantastic work. I still want a 10EE, but they're rare as hen's teeth up here...

On the color, back when I was working on my Nichols mill, I had a few suggestions on... unconventional colors. It was, when it arrived, a medium-dark red, which was a repaint- at least the second color, if not the third, over the factory light grey.

I happened to have a gallon of catalyst-type epoxy in fire-engine red, and seriously considered using it. I wanted an oil/solvent proof paintjob, and hey, I already had the paint...

I ended up wimping out and bought some light grey industrial enamel. :D

Doc.

lazlo
01-12-2009, 08:56 PM
Ryan, it's hard to tell in a forum photo, but your paint looks flawless! With the color you chose, any sign of orange-peel would be especially evident :D

I would guess that you sprayed it with an HVLP gun, but I don't see the remains of a paint tent?

Thomas Staubo
01-12-2009, 09:07 PM
Wow, transformed from a Beast to a Beauty !
Nice work G1K. :)

Did you have to do anything to the slide ways (scraping), or was it not much wear?



Side note: I would never paint a lathe orange, I think grey is nice, at least on older machine (my Myford is grey :)). But each to his own taste.

When we are talking about colours, You may see me as a heretic for saying this, but I don't fancy painting a (largish) machine green either. Maybe, just maybe, dark green could work, like British racing green.
I do not like the green colour they use on the newer Myford lathes, yuck.

.

G1K
01-12-2009, 09:12 PM
Hopefully I don't miss anything:

I have not done any machining yet, actually I took the gear box out because I wanted to check something and make sure I didn't screw anything up. I just got an Aloris BXA in the mail today, so it shouldn;t be long before I can fire her up.

It is Kubota Orange, I used the Valspar tractor and implement paint on it.

I replaced many of the external geartrain bearings (you can see how rusty they were in one of the pics) and some in the apron, otherwise everything else was in good shape. I may need a new flat belt soon as the one on there is near death.

I'd say maybe 80 hours, but I didn't keep track so it's just a guess.

This particular EE was made in '42, no tubes. It has a motor generator setup, and I verified that all the electricals functioned before I spent any time on the cosmetics.


Believe it or not I did not use a spray gun. I have an attached garage and did not want fumes entering the house. I took all the old layers of [aint off with a 1" wide steel gasket scraper. The paint was applied with a 2" and 1.5" brush. The prep work was key, lots of hours filling and sanding. The key with the brush is to put on enough paint that it levels out and the brush marks disappear but not too much that it runs.


Ryan

Mark Hockett
01-12-2009, 09:48 PM
Great job and I gotta say I love the color.

nheng
01-12-2009, 10:16 PM
Fantastic job! What type of filler did you use. The tailstock close-up looks flawless.

If you've ever read any of Forrest's stories supporting painting by brush, you know that you've just made his day :)

Den

tony ennis
01-12-2009, 10:18 PM
Was that thing stored outside? It is great looking now. Excellent color choice!

Does the paint have too many fumes to use in a basement?

ZINOM
01-13-2009, 12:55 AM
Man, that is one sexy beast!....great work...I hope you enjoy it tenfold!!

John

Doc Nickel
01-13-2009, 01:21 AM
...

http://www.docsmachine.com/images/monarch-general.jpg

:D

Doc.

BadDog
01-13-2009, 01:26 AM
Er, Doc, hate to tell ya, but that's the wrong flag...

Doc Nickel
01-13-2009, 01:32 AM
Oops. :D I knew that... hang on...

Doc.

BadDog
01-13-2009, 01:51 AM
Thaaats better... :D

G1K
01-14-2009, 12:25 AM
...

http://www.docsmachine.com/images/monarch-general.jpg

:D

Doc.

I was thinking about some kinda of small discrete nose art like a WW2 airplane given the lathes vintage, but that 01 from the Dukes is very catchy... but I don't know if I can bring my self to do it...

Maybe a small one somewhere.. :)

R

Doc Nickel
01-14-2009, 12:36 AM
[T]hat 01 from the Dukes is very catchy... but I don't know if I can bring my self to do it...

-So have a vinyl sign shop cut you out the numbers in a material with a low-tension adhesive. If/when you get tired of it- or too many of your friends start razzin' you about it (trust me- I used to have two '69 Chargers... I know!) just peel it off. :D

Doc.

Mcgyver
01-14-2009, 09:45 AM
Doc that was funny!

Ryan, looks fantastic. Valspar tractor and implement paint on it - that sounds like it would be a tough paint. I did one once is just used the regular metal paint crap, didn't stand up to chips and coolant....I hope the Valspar does!