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Peter.
01-13-2009, 07:35 PM
I just won this milling machine on ebay. It's listed as a 'Alfred Herbert' machine, but I can't find any reference to any mill made by them, it seems that they were once big-time machine vendorsbut possibly of re-badged machines from companies they bought out. Looks like there's still an 'Alfred Herbert Ltd' still going who renovate machines up Coventry way so it could be them I guess.

Any clues? Pics aren't too great it'll be a few days before I pick it up I guess. Machine is about 1/2 ton in weight I'm told.

http://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/mill1_lg.jpg

http://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/mill2_lg.jpg

Limy Sami
01-13-2009, 07:42 PM
From here I'd say Herbert 0V or 1V ?? and getting long in the tooth, IIRC pre 39-45 war design though none the worse for that if not kicked to death.
Might have the old 1 3/8" herbert taper, like Int 30 but bigger very hard to find, think sometimes called the Herbert non stick.... there's another recent post on 0V etc on this board.

Peter.
01-13-2009, 07:48 PM
Thanks Sami - I'll do a search. It comes with collets & a drawbar, but that's it. Can't tell the state of the bed from the pics but for 300 who cares? Already converted to single phase which is good for me. I couldn't get anything bigger into my workshop (narrow alleyway) and I didn't want a flimsy bench-top mill.

JCHannum
01-13-2009, 08:06 PM
It bears a passing resemblence to the Millrite or Powermatic mill sold over here. It was about 2/3 the size of a Bridgeport, but a good solid machine.

Most of these mills are simple enough that any necessary repairs are easily accomplished. It looks like a good machine. There was a thread here a couple of days ago about Herbert collet availability.

Peter.
01-17-2009, 05:13 PM
Stopped-by to see the guy today to arrange pickup. I took a look over the machine - and I'm very happy. The table is un-marked, which I think it astonishing for a 1960's/70's machine. Gave the table a good tug about and I can't detect any slop at all in any direction. It's smaller than the pics suggest, standing about 5'10" which pleased me as I particularly wanted a smaller machine. The size is about perfect.

When I get it home I'll take some good quality pics and do a report, if anyone's interested. If anyone has any literature or info on these machines I would be VERY grateful - so far I can't even find what decade it was made.

http://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/herbertmill01.jpg

http://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/herbertmill02.jpg

http://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/herbertmill03.jpg

Limy Sami
01-17-2009, 05:33 PM
Check what model you have, manual here for an 0V, pricey but at least he's got it.

http://www.lathes.co.uk/manuals/

aboard_epsilon
01-17-2009, 05:41 PM
you beat me to it limey


Well heres a book on alfred herberts history

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=k6FIMyG4SmgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Alfred+Herbert+Ltd+and+the+British+Machine+Tool #PPR7,M1

is it called herbert OV milling machine or Dirty-Herbert :)
http://www.theengineersemporium.co.uk/manual-images/Jpg&Gifs/H19.jpg
http://www.theengineersemporium.co.uk/manuals/MANUALSH.HTML 20

Limy Sami
01-17-2009, 06:06 PM
Price is getting better.

Peter.
01-17-2009, 06:16 PM
Price is getting better.

Indeed. Being fitted with two new single-phase motors helps. They would have been 100 themselves, and the guy used proper switches & contacts too, sealed in waterproof boxes. All I'm going to do there is replace the power cord with armoured cable to run to the consumer unit.