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speedy
01-29-2009, 06:19 AM
As I mentioned in a previous General thread, my good mate died.
He had previously disposed of his good rifles and only had a Norinco .22 JW-15A in his gun cabinet.
But discretely tucked away elsewhere was his Hi Standard Supermatic Trophy model 103 with 2 10 shot mags and a couple of balance weights. Plus a Hunter holster 1100(?).

The coppers have taken them away for safe keeping until the guns can be disposed of.
I would offer for it but over here you need a gun license with a pistol or collectors endorsement. Unfortunately I let my license lapse some years back.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/speeedy/assorted%20images/Hi%20Standard/IMG_1658.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/speeedy/assorted%20images/Hi%20Standard/IMG_1662.jpg

JCHannum
01-29-2009, 08:04 AM
It looks as if the coppers have got themselves a nice pistol. High Standard 22 autos are very nice guns, the Trophy was their top of the line target model, produced from 1958-1963. It was comparable in quality and price to the Colt Woodsman line.

Value is difficult to assign from this distance and photographs, but a range of $750 to $1500 is realistic. The barrel appears to be the 8" which adds another $150-$200. If the box is included, add another $100 or so. These prices are based on an older Blue Book, but are probably not too far off.

What happens now? Does the estate or widow get any form of reimbursement representing the actual value of the gun?

radkins
01-29-2009, 09:05 AM
but over here you need a gun license with a pistol or collectors endorsement.



I really feel for you guys with those overly restrictive firearm laws but I am also very afraid that we may soon be under the same misguided restrictions.:mad:

speedy
01-29-2009, 02:25 PM
It looks as if the coppers have got themselves a nice pistol. High Standard 22 autos are very nice guns, the Trophy was their top of the line target model, produced from 1958-1963. It was comparable in quality and price to the Colt Woodsman line.

Value is difficult to assign from this distance and photographs, but a range of $750 to $1500 is realistic. The barrel appears to be the 8" which adds another $150-$200. If the box is included, add another $100 or so. These prices are based on an older Blue Book, but are probably not too far off.

What happens now? Does the estate or widow get any form of reimbursement representing the actual value of the gun?

Yes it is an 8" barrel JC but no box. That beautiful blueing has some wear in the normal region, trigger guard etc.
The coppers are holding it in safekeeping as the widow does not have the suitable license, or any gun license for that matter. She alerted them first thing and then, as you know, the ball starts rolling. But it is no biggy as they are being very accommodating. It was her husbands wish that his guns be disposed of.
NZ$$500 is the 'value' being quoted to me but maybe that is our market price, or else???
An insurance value quote from one gun dealer was $800. I am waiting on 3 other estimates to come in.
Was your estimate of $750-1500 in US$?. I understand that exporting firearms is fraught with risk and bureaucracy, sure wish that I lived closer:) That figure would help the widow quite some way. I think that I need o do some more digging.
I managed to persuade BOC to give her a full reimbursement on his gas bottles and fill. Initially they were not keen; so that has saved her a couple of hundy more. He was a good mate.

Deleted : my response to Radkins observation

JCHannum
01-29-2009, 02:43 PM
The estimate was from The Blue Book of Gun Values, which is a pretty standard reference. It is in US dollars. I think my book is about 4 or 5 years old, but should be close. It does depend on how quickly you need to sell the gun and the market.

38_Cal
01-29-2009, 04:30 PM
Remember, please, that Blue Book values are retail. A dealer will give between 20% to 50% less, depending on the market and legalities. It may be in her best interest to get the firearms to a dealer "on consignment", if such is allowed there. Dealers usually like this, as they're not out any shekels up front, and the owner gets her percentage of the sale price when it sells.

David
Montezuma, IA

motorcyclemac
01-30-2009, 12:57 AM
I really feel for you guys with those overly restrictive firearm laws but I am also very afraid that we may soon be under the same misguided restrictions.:mad:

Oh...it will get MESSY before that happens.

Cheers
Mac.

BMSS
01-31-2009, 01:13 PM
Oh...it will get MESSY before that happens.

Cheers
Mac.

I believe you are right motorcyclemac, , , , real messy!

radkins
01-31-2009, 02:31 PM
After commenting on the restrictive laws and the fear that the same could happen to us I realized that it was probably against the rules to do. I understand the reasoning behind not allowing gun control discussions in this area and I had, at that point, not noticed the rule stating that political and gun control threads will not be allowed. My apologies for getting off the subject and I now realize my comment could easily turn this into a gun control discussion, it was not my intention to break the rules.

speedy
01-31-2009, 08:07 PM
To keep within the boundaries of this forum and remain on topic(?) I have deleted my previous response.

speedy
02-01-2009, 06:24 PM
Well, I have had valuations from a number of gun dealers and they range between NZ$450 through to NZ$800.
That equates to something in the order of US$225 - US$400 at present exchange rates. It could be worthwhile buying your collectables from this island outpost ;)

gearedloco
02-02-2009, 12:55 AM
That looks very much like the Hi-Standard "Citation" I bought through the Navy Exchange on Guam. Mine has a 10" barrel, the weights, and I've still got the muzzle brake around somewhere. I haven't fired it in many years. It's certainly more accurate than I am!

When I came back stateside, I had a special endorsement on my orders to allow me to carry it with me. Of course, that was in 1962. The Custom Inspector in Hawaii as moderately impressed. Today I'd probably have to ship it by slow boat.

-bill

speedy
02-07-2009, 06:42 PM
The pistol now resides with a new owner.
He likes the pistol and so does his missus. From memory, she shot with his Colt(?) for 110 then did the same with the H S and improved to 124(?)

Lew Hartswick
02-07-2009, 09:47 PM
I have a Citation that I've had since the 60s Use to do a bit of
competitive shooting but havent since moving to NM. Have done a bit
of plinking with it though. Great target gun. I don't like what has happened
to target shooting in the last 20 years.
...lew...