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George Bulliss
10-20-2009, 04:52 PM
As you likely noticed, the site was down for the last 24 hours. There was a planned outage for Saturday that apparently was done today. I donít think we have any more planned work, but I was wrong today.

George

tattoomike68
10-20-2009, 05:11 PM
Its running fast and snappy here. whatever was done seems good to go for a while.

clutch
10-20-2009, 06:18 PM
I was having serious withdrawal pangs.

Glad your wonderful website is back amongst the living.

Clutch

camdigger
10-20-2009, 06:29 PM
Soo, it wasn't a consequence of me posting my first pictures...:D

Glad what ever it was has been resolved....

dockrat
10-20-2009, 06:41 PM
I was feeling withdrawl symptoms coming on. :D

Falcon67
10-20-2009, 07:06 PM
Yes I saw that you couldn't be seen, but I can see you now.

aostling
10-20-2009, 07:09 PM
I got a FORBIDDEN notice, with the following subtext:


You don't have permission to access /forumdisplay.php on this server.
Apache/2.2.2 (Fedora) Server at bbs.homeshopmachinist.net Port 80

That made me wonder if the problem was with my system. Why was there no message stating that there was a site outage?

Evan
10-20-2009, 07:15 PM
Because somebody didn't engage DNS forwarding.

Pete F
10-20-2009, 07:15 PM
Why was there no message stating that there was a site outage?

There was, but it took a while to appear. Perhaps you didn't obsessively check over and over again for long enough? :D

-Pete

Evan
10-20-2009, 07:31 PM
That notice stopped working after a while.

Solvang? Beautiful town that is. Taler du Dansk?

dp
10-20-2009, 07:36 PM
That notice stopped working after a while.

Solvang? Beautiful town that is. Taler du Dansk?

Cheese capital of the central coast. Used to go there for weekend breakfasts when I lived in Santa Maria. Always loved the drive from there to Santa Barbara over the inland route via San Marcos pass.

madman
10-20-2009, 08:17 PM
Lucky theres all types of Porn on the Internet to entertain you while the HSM forums getting fixed up.

rockrat
10-20-2009, 10:02 PM
If George would like, we could blame this on him too. :) Poor guy, I wonder what gets loaded on him at the office just for being the new guy???

All kidding aside, I was starting to get the DT's from the lack of HSM'ing on the web. Had to actually go out and make something on the lathe. I was in fear of having to pick up one of those old paper things, I think they are called books, to do my reading.

rock~

keelan
10-20-2009, 10:23 PM
Because somebody didn't engage DNS forwarding.

Short answer: You're Wrong. Longer answer, DNS forwarding would be an unnecessary complication. The page being served up was a default page (Fedora for a production server? Yikes.) A replacement for that default page would be all that was needed. Any DNS changes risk problems with cached records messing things up well after the maintenance is complete. Shaw's DNS servers are notorious for this.

Someone had to light the Evan fuse ;)

All in good humor, my geographically semi-co-located fellow metal mangler.

Anyway, glad it is back.

Pete F
10-21-2009, 01:31 AM
Solvang? Beautiful town that is. Taler du Dansk?

No, not even a little bit (I had to use google to translate that). I'm an import, but I do really like it here. Very peaceful, friendly place. And they know you at the hardware store and market. :D

-Pete

Pete F
10-21-2009, 01:43 AM
Cheese capital of the central coast. Used to go there for weekend breakfasts when I lived in Santa Maria. Always loved the drive from there to Santa Barbara over the inland route via San Marcos pass.

That is a nice drive... I used to commute that 5 days a week. Now I work from home. I like that better :p

Where'd ya go for breakfast?

-Pete

dp
10-21-2009, 01:50 AM
Short answer: You're Wrong. Longer answer, DNS forwarding would be an unnecessary complication. The page being served up was a default page (Fedora for a production server? Yikes.) A replacement for that default page would be all that was needed. Any DNS changes risk problems with cached records messing things up well after the maintenance is complete. Shaw's DNS servers are notorious for this.

Someone had to light the Evan fuse ;)

All in good humor, my geographically semi-co-located fellow metal mangler.

Anyway, glad it is back.

Having worked for a number of large dot com's it is common practice to put a "by-pass" page in place to let the rank and file know there is nothing wrong with their set. A by-pass page is just a simple webpage that sez the site is stone cold dead, or words to that effect.

Sometimes, though, there will be a server relocation that involves a new IP like when you move your site from Denver to Chandler. I try to overlap systems so this happens painlessly, but the object is to mirror the two sites, set the DNS TTL to a matter of minutes, turn on the new site, cut over DNS, let the new site start accepting connections, then shut down the old site and replace all pages with appropriate redirects to the new site. All usually within a matter of minutes for interactive - wouldn't do to have a new post on the old site. In this situation DNS is a major player. The bad news is some large ISP's re-write the TTL time of YOUR DNS and cache stale lookups. That prolongs any proper cutovers - for very large sites this is a problem. For MomNPop.com it's not such a big deal.

dp
10-21-2009, 01:52 AM
That is a nice drive... I used to commute that 5 days a week. Now I work from home. I like that better :p

Where'd ya go for breakfast?

-Pete

Wish I could remember - was on the south side of the road, in town, and that's about all I can recall. It was 1970 when I lived there. I also used to stop into PeaSoup Andersen's in what, Buellton was it? The birthplace of Happea and Pea-Wee. Another happy Dane story.

I used to like my commute when it was from the bedroom to the kitchen. I miss retirement!

Evan
10-21-2009, 02:30 AM
Short answer: You're Wrong. Longer answer, DNS forwarding would be an unnecessary complication. The page being served up was a default page (Fedora for a production server? Yikes.) A replacement for that default page would be all that was needed. Any DNS changes risk problems with cached records messing things up well after the maintenance is complete. Shaw's DNS servers are notorious for this.


Short reply: you missed something. That page wasn't necessarily coming from the regular Village Press server.

All of the major DNS providers include DNS forwarding as a part of the package. It's also included in most major server packages that provide DNS services. There is nothing complicated about it and the DNS occurs as per normal. Caching issues exist anyway both at the client side and on the WAN.

Shaw's network configuration is both non standard and non optimal.