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darryl
11-06-2009, 11:27 PM
Is a Wilton vise any good? Is a Jet grinder any good? Friend just bought these and wondering if these things are worth the higher dollar than the chinese stuff.

rantbot
11-06-2009, 11:44 PM
They are Chinese stuff.

dp
11-07-2009, 12:18 AM
Amazon rates a particular model above average but the reviews tell the tale.Those who work beyond the level of weekend warrior are less impressed.

http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-63302-6-Inch-Shop-Vise/product-reviews/B00004XPVO/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Not applicable to all Wilton models, of course, so it's in the live and learn category. If you tie flies with it you'll be happy but if you forge full scale brontosaurus femurs from shorts in your spare time you may be disappointed.

steve45
11-07-2009, 12:34 AM
Wilton makes excellent vises. They also make a cheaper line that you probably don't want.

Look for the specs on the strength of the material--you want the 60,000 psi vise, not the 25,000 psi model. For a good Wilton, you can expect to pay several hundred dollars.

motorcyclemac
11-07-2009, 02:29 AM
They are Chinese stuff.

Ouch! Party pooper :-)

darryl
11-07-2009, 03:50 AM
Ha, we were just looking at the vise and grinder he bought- both jet products, though I thought one was a wilton, but anyway no matter. I told him that I was going to stick a bolt in the vise off center then tighten it as tight as I could. If it didn't break, it would probably be ok. So that's what I did, and it didn't break.

Turns out it's 30k cast iron, like virtually all the vises we looked at on the innernet.

The grinder looks to be a step or two above some of the garbage out there, though still not anything special. At least it's not one of those that takes a full minute to get up to speed like one that another friend has.

For the intermittent and light duty use they will get they'll be fine.

lazlo
11-07-2009, 03:53 AM
Jet is a Taiwanese company. Their machines are usually quite a bit nicer than the run-of-the-mill mainland Chinese stuff. I had the Jet 4x6 H/V bandsaw, and it was pretty darn nice, which is not surprising since they made castings for Wilton's bandsaws for many years.

Jet bought-out the Wilton Tool Group years ago, and these days just about all companies rebrand stuff from China, so if it's a low-end price point, it's probably Chinese.

On the other hand, the last time Wilton vises were discussed on PM, someone mentioned that Wilton still sells the heavy duty, Made in USA bullet vise. I have one from 50 years ago, and it's fantastic. Caveat Emptor.

cuemaker
11-07-2009, 08:11 AM
If the vise looks like this, its made in the USA

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa129/xringx/DSCN2106.jpg

SGW
11-07-2009, 08:17 AM
Can't really say. Before Wilton became just another marketing brand, their reputation was excellent. Now, who knows what it means. As with Jet, depending on exactly which item you're talking about, quality may range from extremely good to ...not so good.

Alistair Hosie
11-07-2009, 01:45 PM
I have a Wilton woodworking Vice as yet I've had it about two years and not yet built the table I dream of someday it looks nice but that goes for noting best of luck Alistair

J. R. Williams
11-07-2009, 04:16 PM
Cuemaker
You need to learn how a vise should be installed on a workbench. Move it out to the edge so a long vertical part can be clamped in the vise.

JRW

cuemaker
11-07-2009, 04:38 PM
I know its supposed to go to the edge,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

motorcyclemac
11-07-2009, 06:06 PM
Cuemaker
You need to learn how a vise should be installed on a workbench. Move it out to the edge so a long vertical part can be clamped in the vise.

JRW

I was going to comment on that as well. But...I refrained as I noted that he is using that preformed particle board counter top and it is unsupported at the edge.

You are right...it does seriously limit the vise when mounted that far back.

Cheers
Mac.

motorcyclemac
11-07-2009, 06:13 PM
Here is a pic of my method for mounting my vise...

It is solid and has no wiggle.. You can't pull the bench over this way...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj61/motorcyclemac/IMG_0829.jpg

Cheer
Mac.