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Bootj
12-09-2009, 06:13 PM
Hello,
I recently aquired a old Barnes lathe from my grandfather. He has owned it since he was 12, made parts for the war off of it. We were making parts one day on his 9" SB, and he told me to take a look at this old lathe up in our parts room. It was burried under all sorts of junk.

So far I have degreased it and took inventory of all the parts and pieces. What I have found is, the stand is missing along with the treddle. The large gear is broken, I have fixed this though. I have most every thing else, steady rest, tail stock, 3 jaw and tooling.

One major problem I have, the manual feed gear is sheared off. I have no idea where it went. I also have no idea where to find one of these pieces.

Any ideas or vendors that I could contact would be appreciated.

Thanks
Paul Booth

wulf11acr
12-09-2009, 06:20 PM
Paul your best bet is ebay , or make one. Try the yahoo groups . A number 4 for sale on ebay #300375166486 for 95 dollars. Do you have a photo of the part you are missing?
William

Bootj
12-09-2009, 06:38 PM
William,
Thanks, I have looked at that lathe on ebay. Its a little far to ship I'm in MN. I will get photos tomorrow night, give an idea what I am talking about.
Paul

camdigger
12-09-2009, 07:27 PM
Duzzit look like this?

http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx301/camdigger/Misc%20projects/lathes.jpg

If so, I can take pics and measurements of components to help you recreate what might be broken or missing.

Bootj
12-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Exactly!

If you could take a photo of the gearing for the manual feed.
Thanks,
Paul :D

wulf11acr
12-09-2009, 11:22 PM
Here's a couple more photos of a Barnes #4 See if these help, If not I'll take some photos of mine in AM and Post.
William

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/wulf_2007/Barnes3.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/wulf_2007/Barnes4.jpg

tdkkart
12-09-2009, 11:36 PM
This guy has one for sale, check the lathe section:
http://www.lostcreekmachine.com


http://www.lostcreekmachine.com/images/Barnes.jpg

camdigger
12-10-2009, 11:08 AM
Pictures of mine will have to wait until early next week.

Any of you Barnes owners have issues with the back gear release pin in the head stock? Mines quite stiff after a decade of disuse.

Bootj
12-10-2009, 04:58 PM
Thanks guys,
My issue is with the manual feed gearing on the back side of the apron. I don't have a pic yet but will soon.
Thanks
Paul

camdigger
12-10-2009, 05:04 PM
There's gearing back there?

I thought there was just tandem halfnuts for the counter rotating lead screws and a gear for the carriage rack:confused:

Bootj
12-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Yeppers

What I call a compound gear, two gears fuse together, and another on the manual feed handle itself.

Sorry im not in the trade, I don't know the correct terms.

Thanks,
Paul

wulf11acr
12-10-2009, 06:41 PM
More Barnes Photos
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/wulf_2007/Barnes5b.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/wulf_2007/Barnes5f.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/wulf_2007/Barnes5b.jpg

Do these show what you are missing?
William

wulf11acr
12-10-2009, 06:43 PM
Or These
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/wulf_2007/Barnes5b.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee219/wulf_2007/Barnes5a.jpg
William

Bootj
12-10-2009, 10:11 PM
Wow thats a good looking lathe!

camdigger
12-11-2009, 10:49 AM
Shore is purty!

wulf11acr
12-11-2009, 04:20 PM
Barnes #5

Barnes lathe Just a work in progress, It has been sitting for a year while waiting to make a few parts or swap for them. And undecided on whether to refit back to a treadle or motorize it. Treadle parts are hard to find and expensive . I am working on a Seneca Falls star lathe at present

William

Bootj
12-14-2009, 05:56 PM
Here is the apron with the broken gear,
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx83/boothpaul/380.jpg

HSS
12-14-2009, 06:19 PM
Well William, I was going to ask you if you use that lathe or are you just saving it for pictures. :D As usual, I finished reading the thread and got my answer. She sure is a good looking machine.:)

Patrick

wulf11acr
12-14-2009, 08:28 PM
Paul
It looks like you can bore out the gear and make a new shaft , Neck the shaft down and pin it to the gear. There is not a lot of stress so it should work fine, Although maybe someone has some spare parts , Post a wanted message on the Yahoo groups Barnes Lathe grp
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/barnes_lathes/

Not too hard of a fix I can think of several ways to fix the old parts, but a replacement would be best. Give it a try !! You have nothing to lose and you have an easy fix.
Luck

William

Bootj
12-14-2009, 11:55 PM
Id like to do that but the gear you see broken is just half of the gear. There is a larger gear coupled to the smaller one you see there. What I am trying to do now is manufacture this gear making an est. guessas to the depth of the gear I know the two ODs. and am working off that.
Thanks,
Paul