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jugs
12-22-2009, 05:38 AM
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1. Teaching Maths In 1970.
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is
4/5 of the price. What is his profit? Express in fractions20and also as a percentage. Show all calculations in the margins. Marks will be deducted for lack of neat writing and spelling errors.

2. Teaching Maths In 1980.
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is
80% of the price. What is his profit?

3. Teaching Maths In 1990.
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is
£80. How much was his profit?

4. Teaching Maths In 2000.
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is
£80 and his profit is £20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

5. Teaching Maths In 2005.
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and
inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habit of animals or the
preservation of our woodlands.
Your assignment: Discuss how might the bir ds and squirrels feel as the
logger cut down their homes just for a measly profit of £20.

6. Teaching Maths In 2009.
A logger is arrested for trying to cut down a tree in case it may be
offensive to Muslims or other religious groups not consulted in the
felling licence. He is also fined a £100 as his chainsaw is in breach
of Health & Safety legislation as it deemed too dangerous and could cut
something. He h as used the chainsaw for over 20 years without incident
however he does not have the correct certificate of competence and is
therefore considered to be a recidivist and habitual criminal. His DNA
is sampled and his details circulated throughout all government
agencies. He protests and is taken to court and fined another £100
because he is such an easy target. When he is released he returns to
find Gypsies have cut down half his wood to build a camp on his land.
He tries to throw them off but is arrested, prosecuted for harassing an
ethnic minority, imprisoned and fined a further £100. While he is in
jail the Gypsies cut down the rest of his wood and sell it on the black
market for £100 cash. They also have a leaving BBQ of squirrel and
pheasant and depart leaving behind several tonnes of rubbish and
asbestos sheeting. The forester on release is warned that failure to
clear the fly tipped rubbish immediately at his own cost is an offence.
He complains and is arrested for environmental pollution, breach of the
peace and invoiced £12000 plus VAT for safe disposal costs by a
regulated government contractor. Your assignment: How many times is the
logger going to have to be arrested and fined before he realises that he
is never going to make £20 profit by hard work, give up, sign onto the
dole and live off the state for the rest of his life?

7. Teaching Maths In 2010.
A logger doesn't sell a lorry load of timber because he canít get a loan
to buy a new lorry; his bank has spent all his and their money on a
derivative of securitised debt related to sub- prime mortgages in
Alabama and lost the lot; they only have some government money left to
pay a few million pound bonuses to their senior directors and the
traders who made the biggest losses. The logger struggles to pay the
£1200 road tax on his old lorry however, as it was built in the 1970s,
it no longer meets the emissions regulations and he is forced to scrap
it. Some Bulgarian loggers buy the lorry from the scrap merchant and put
it back on the road. They undercut everyone on price for haulage and
send their cash back home, while claiming unemployment for themselves
and their relatives. If questioned they speak no English and it is
easier to deport them at the governments expense. Following their
holiday back home they return to the UK with different names and f resh
girls and start again. The logger protests, is accused of being a
bigoted racist and as his name is on the side of his old lorry he is
forced to pay £1500 registration fees as a gang master. The Government
borrows more money to pay more to the bankers as bonuses are
not cheap. The parliamentarians feel they are missing out and claim the
difference on expenses and allowances. You do the maths!!!

BWS
12-22-2009, 08:23 AM
Is this public or private education?BW

QSIMDO
12-22-2009, 08:43 AM
Trick questions.

There's not a stick left in the whole of the UK.

Carld
12-22-2009, 09:39 AM
Sounds like a reasonable accounting of todays ways.

RKW
12-22-2009, 10:58 AM
You forgot one.

8. Teaching Maths In 2012.
[silence]

Paul Alciatore
12-22-2009, 11:03 AM
There's WAY too much truth in that.

tdkkart
12-23-2009, 12:54 AM
I gave up long ago because even the 1970 version was a waste of time and energy for me. I had done the math in my head and had the answer before I finished reading the question. I didn't need pencil, writing down wasn't going to prove anything.

I nearly flunked out of algebra1 because I refused to sho my work. if I could solve 2x+4=10 in my head, wtf was the point of all the extra work??

Proving line A-B parallel to line C-D did nothing for me either. Any idiot knows that if the ends are the same distance apart the 2 lines are parallel, i don't need to prove anything, I KNOW that.

BWS
12-23-2009, 08:11 AM
I fell through the public school cracks...........specially in math.Whats so gauldang funny is how big a role math has been in my carreer.Heres a taste,had to design build,using spherical trig,the 1/4 sphere over the "pulpit"('cause I'm a dumbazz and don't remember what its called in a Catholic church)in a major churchbuild years ago.........To the point of creating varied/unusual "math" techniques that are being used in the building field 'round here at least,to this day.

Above isn't meant as any sort of chest pounding....quite the opposite.Its just sad how people fall through the cracks in public education.I will say however that education starts at home.My dad was a very fine builder,we used to discuss subjects of interest for weeks at a time.....miss him alot.The point is iffin you want your youngin to know how to ____ (might be logging),start teachin the little bugger.BW

Black_Moons
12-23-2009, 09:16 AM
I gave up long ago because even the 1970 version was a waste of time and energy for me. I had done the math in my head and had the answer before I finished reading the question. I didn't need pencil, writing down wasn't going to prove anything.

I nearly flunked out of algebra1 because I refused to sho my work. if I could solve 2x+4=10 in my head, wtf was the point of all the extra work??

Proving line A-B parallel to line C-D did nothing for me either. Any idiot knows that if the ends are the same distance apart the 2 lines are parallel, i don't need to prove anything, I KNOW that.

I hated showing my work too. and excessive homework questions that had no applications at all in the real world.

Is it so much to ask to actualy come up with real world examples of using math when teaching it insted of usless examples.

PS: X is two lines that are not parallel but the ends are the same distance apart. :P

tdkkart
12-23-2009, 12:31 PM
I hated showing my work too. and excessive homework questions that had no applications at all in the real world.

Is it so much to ask to actualy come up with real world examples of using math when teaching it insted of usless examples.

PS: X is two lines that are not parallel but the ends are the same distance apart. :P


Exactly, after I bailed out of algebra I still needed a math credit so took "Experiments and Applications in Mathematics", stuff like balancing your checkbook, figuring areas and volumes, percentages, working with fractions etc. Ace'd that class as it was actual real life applications. Did just fine in accounting also.

P.S. Any idiot can look at an X and see that the lines are not parallel, it's called using your eyes and your mind. I need to further proof than that.