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Riverman
12-24-2009, 10:02 AM
I've spent a month trying to find an old Rockwell 1 x 42 belt sander... finally found one 500-miles away that I will have to go pick up in person next year.

In the mean time... I ordered this Grizzly 1 x 42 to use. It has a cast iron housing and the good part... the replacement wheels are only $2 each.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/1-X-8-Belt-Disc-Sander/H8192

Merry Christmas to all... :)

Bill Pace
12-24-2009, 10:42 AM
I've had this little belt sander for about 15 years and it would have to rank as being in the top 3 tools in my shop! I love this thing---I'm on my 4th set of wheels!

Its shown as only 51 lbs, so it should qualify for free ship.

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=163-4512

Boucher
12-24-2009, 10:46 AM
The two most used tools in my shop are my vacuum and belt sander. If something happened to them they would be at the top of the list for replacement. I just bought the belt sander on a impulse. Never expected it to be so handy. Actually I bought a kit that used to be advertised in HSM. The first motor sucked in the grinding dust and didn't last very long. It was replaced with a 3 phase TEFC motor and a VFD. The variable speed belt sander rocks!

true temper
12-24-2009, 12:24 PM
The two most used tools in my shop are my vacuum and belt sander. If something happened to them they would be at the top of the list for replacement. I just bought the belt sander on a impulse. Never expected it to be so handy. Actually I bought a kit that used to be advertised in HSM. The first motor sucked in the grinding dust and didn't last very long. It was replaced with a 3 phase TEFC motor and a VFD. The variable speed belt sander rocks!
I have a Rockwell 1" x 42" belt sander I would let go for 50 bucks plus shipping. It needs a new wheel made for it. The motor is a bit loud but runs good.:)

S_J_H
12-24-2009, 12:51 PM
I have that 1 x 42 model with the Delta name. A belt sander is really a must have item for any metal worker IMHO.
Steve

G1K
12-24-2009, 12:55 PM
I have a Rockwell 1" x 42" belt sander I would let go for 50 bucks plus shipping. It needs a new wheel made for it. The motor is a bit loud but runs good.:)

I am very interested. What would shipping be to 14032 (just outside of Buffalo, NY)?


Ryan

Riverman
12-24-2009, 01:22 PM
delete....

oldjim
12-24-2009, 01:31 PM
I have also have had a one of these Rockwell sanders for many years. Bought it new. Has always worked fine.
About 4 or five years ago I managed to knocked it off its perch (really should have bolted it down), Anyway this broke one of the plastic wheels.

I subsequently melted a couple of pistons in an old cast iron pot using my little coal fired shop stove and poured the melt into a cat food can. Machined this to size and replaced the original bronze bushings with little sealed ball bearings I happened to have. Works fine again.

As has been mentioned, yes, the motor really screams.

Merry Christmas to all youns guys.

Jim

AlexK
12-24-2009, 02:44 PM
Guys,

belt grinder indeed is very useful tool. I just don't think that this 1"x42" grinder is adequate for any home machinist. Invest in a better grinder. Preferably one that is using 2x72 belts. 2x72 belts are cheaper(per square inch) and you can get them in grit from 36 to 3000.
A good 36 grit belt eats metal like a buttah :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYllaxuzMk0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy_guBBaUTU

There are other very useful belt types:
Cork belt. You load it with polishing compound and use for polishing. Scotch Brite belt. Gives you great satin finish.

If you can't afford to buy you can build it. It is relatively simple device. Some people even build it out of wood!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40oBU5oboag&feature=related

Here is a knife I made using only my belt grinder.
Look Ma, No Mill!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/alexkuzn/5-9-20066-06-11PM_0021.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/alexkuzn/5-9-20065-52-46PM_0027.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j305/alexkuzn/5-5-20067-04-11PM_0003.jpg

Riverman
12-24-2009, 02:51 PM
I prefer the 1" x 42" belt machines...

AlexK
12-24-2009, 02:53 PM
I prefer the 1" x 42" belt machines...
There are no people who "prefer" 1x42 There are only people who have not tried 2x72 yet. :)

Riverman
12-24-2009, 02:56 PM
I've used my friend's 2 x 72 several times... I PREFER the 1 x 42 smile

Bill Pace
12-24-2009, 03:01 PM
There are only people who have not tried 2x72 yet
I built a 2x72 and disliked it so much I disassembled it and built it over in another configuration, didnt like it either, so tore it down and built a 2x48 --- with it and the bought 1x42 I'm a happy camper.

AlexK
12-24-2009, 03:53 PM
I built a 2x72 and disliked it so much I disassembled it and built it over in another configuration, didnt like it either, so tore it down and built a 2x48 --- with it and the bought 1x42 I'm a happy camper.

:confused: If you don't mind can you explain why you did not like it?
If 2" is too wide you can split a belt and make it as narrow as you want.

I also had 1x42" before I got 2x72 KMG grinder.

Here is what I like about my KMG grinder:

1. Variable speed
Especially slow speed capability, gives you much better control.(Huge deal for me)
2. Foot on/off pedal. You can position work piece with both hands then turn it on. (Huge deal for me)
3. Cheaper belts, belts last longer since they run cooler. More belts variety
4. Better belt tracking
5. Quiet motor.
6. No vibration.
7. Ability to setup table for any grinding angle.
8. Many attachments are available.
9. Can take A LOT of metal in a hurry if you need it.

motorcyclemac
12-24-2009, 03:54 PM
I have been looking at getting one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Kalamazoo-1x42-3hp-Belt-Sander/dp/B00065U7QQ

It would make a nice addition to my 12" disk sander. There are times when the disk is great for hogging material off but it is rather crude. I think that with the volume of firearm work I do the 1x42 would be quite handy. I suspect that I would use lesser grits on the belt machine. 100 and up.

Cheers
Mac.

AlexK
12-24-2009, 04:00 PM
I have been looking at getting one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Kalamazoo-1x42-3hp-Belt-Sander/dp/B00065U7QQ

It would make a nice addition to my 12" disk sander. There are times when the disk is great for hogging material off but it is rather crude. I think that with the volume of firearm work I do the 1x42 would be quite handy. I suspect that I would use lesser grits on the belt machine. 100 and up.

Cheers
Mac.

Kalamazoo is a nice grinder too. You can also get just a grinder part with no motor and make your own motor/pulley setup so you can adjust speed. Normally it is cheaper to get a belt grinder and supply your own motor(you can get a nice new motor on eBay for a fraction of it's retail price) vs. buying whole setup with the motor.

Bill Pace
12-24-2009, 05:04 PM
can you explain why you did not like it?
Not any exact thing --- I just looked at all that wasted belt surface going round and round and thought it was a waste. I already had the 1x42 and knew I would only be using - at a max - maybe 3" of the belt...so I made the 2x48.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b301/pace1980/IMG_0839.jpg

This is where needs & usage comes in, all those features you pointed out on the KMG, I would never use, so they are wasted. Thats aside from the fact of the rather large expense of the KMG, which is a major deterrent for many of us home shop guys. I use the 2x48 to hog metal (which I think will match the KMG at that) and the 1x42 for finer touch up stuff. As far as belt cost, I can buy 6x48 belts in a fair assortment of grits and split them to get 3 2x48's. (Though anymore, since I've switched to zirconia belts, I dont go through near as many) I also have a 12" disc that I built, that along with the 2 belts, I just dont run into situations where they dont cover my needs. (Thats the edge of the disc sander in the pic)

Riverman
12-24-2009, 05:34 PM
Anyone out there have (or know of) a Rockwell 1" x 42" sander for sale?

I want a belt-drive, not the older direct drive.

PM me with the info please...

Thanks

cuemaker
12-24-2009, 05:50 PM
2x72 is dead simple to make, or make it in any configuration you want... Here is a link to a completed 2x72 with another link to the no weld plans...I have all the parts including the wheels, just havent take the time to make it yet...

http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75456

darryl
12-24-2009, 07:07 PM
I'm using a drum sander that takes a 4x36 belt. I can't quite see my face in it yet-

Very handy, and because the belt isn't going around rollers or sliding across a platen of some kind, it isn't noisy and doesn't really have a 'duty cycle'- I can just let it run and it's not irritating. The drum has a layer of foam rubber on it, which I compress by wrapping string around it to cover the width, then I can slip the belt on, center it, then pull the string out. A washing machine motor runs it.

For those applications where I want to keep a surface flat while doing some sanding on it, a normal belt/disc sander is what I use but I'd prefer that it was wider than the 6 inches. A foot wide would be about right, but there I'd be looking at a custom belt.

I still plan in the near future to make a vertical belt sander using the zirconia belts I bought by accident.