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Cheap Jon
12-27-2009, 06:12 PM
I have been looking at gun safes and have a question about the locks on them. The key pads come off easy, if you were to bare the wires and put them on the battery, would the safe open? I did see one that said if the lock was removed the safe would not open.

Thank you Jon

andy_b
12-27-2009, 10:53 PM
No. The wires transmit a signal to the controller inside the safe. The keypad is just a remote keypad, not the controller. If you just connect 9V to the wires, it will not activate the release mechanism.

I did a lot of research before purchasing my safe, and from what I have read the electronic locks are slightly more secure than mechanical locks, quality being similar.

andy b.

Ken_Shea
12-27-2009, 10:58 PM
andy b. B has it correct.
One of the best out there and I've sold hundreds, is GunVault.

I really dislike the company and their treatment to dealers, (my experience and I digress) but the quality of their product is excellent.

Jim Shaper
12-28-2009, 01:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M&feature=player_embedded

We had this discussion on a local gun forum.

It looks like many of the cheaper (read "under multiple thousands of dollars") safes could use some better structural members within their chassis. This demonstration would be much different if they'd simply installed a reinforcement strip along the inner edge of the door jamb where the lock pins engage. Something as simple as some 1/2" bar stock bolted to it could've prevented the pins from pulling through.

As machinists, it's easy for us to dissect how easily thin gauge steel can be breached, but the real issue is slowing them down. Anyone who has a cutting torch on site is pretty much limited to making it difficult to locate the safe rather than preventing them from slicing it open in a matter of seconds.

I'm actually about to start work on a custom gun cabinet, but I'm not going to any lengths to fortify it. Hidden in plain sight is a better description of the security employed. However, it will have an exterior lock to satisfy the stupid bureaucraps (and to keep the little neighbor booger flingers out).

bob308
12-28-2009, 06:00 AM
well in my opion liberty are the best safes . i have one and i had a brake in. thay worked on that safe for a long time. broke the dial off bent the lip on the door. but could get it open. had a locksmith come to open it and fix it cost me $400. but the $100,000 worth of guns were safe. real cheap ins. in my book. mine is a manual sargent & greenleaf lock.

Ken_Shea
12-28-2009, 10:50 AM
well in my opion liberty are the best safes . i have one and i had a brake in. thay worked on that safe for a long time. broke the dial off bent the lip on the door. but could get it open. had a locksmith come to open it and fix it cost me $400. but the $100,000 worth of guns were safe. real cheap ins. in my book. mine is a manual sargent & greenleaf lock.

Second the Liberty safe quality.
My first reply was thinking you were referring to the small hand gun safes, GunVault does not build the Full size safes.

Jim Shaper
12-28-2009, 08:24 PM
The liberty line sold at Lowes is a joke.

Cheap Jon
01-07-2010, 04:14 PM
I would like to thank every one for there replies to my post. The info will be a help in finding the safe that I need, am also considering building a "out of sight one." Thanks agin.

Jon